Trump tariff tête-à-tête

President-elect Trump has vowed to charge a blanket 20% tariff on all imports, which could cost the UK export industry billions - but could he be offering Britain a way out? Stig and Aasmah are joined by historian Timothy Garton Ash and Times Magazine associate editor Jane Mulkerrins to chew over whether such a deal could be worth the inevitable price, looming American compromises on Ukraine, whether poppies have become a smaller part of our culture and whether it's time to give up on Net Zero.