Product Thinking

Melissa Perri

Successful product management isn’t just about training the product managers who work side by side with developers everyday to build better products. It’s about taking a step back, approaching the systems within organizations as a whole, and leveling up product leadership to improve these systems. This is the Product Thinking Podcast, where Melissa Perri will connect with industry leading experts in the product management space, AND answer your most pressing questions about everything product. Join us each week to level up your skillset and invest in yourself as a product leader.

  1. PŘED 6 DNY

    Episode 239: Navigating the AI Shift at Stack Overflow with Jody Bailey

    Jody Bailey, the Chief Product and Technology Officer at Stack Overflow, joins Melissa Perri to discuss the integration of AI and product strategy in one of the world’s largest online communities for technologists. Jody shares insights on how Stack Overflow is navigating the rapid technological advancements and adapting to maintain long-term trust within its community. They delve into the challenges and opportunities AI presents and how it influences product management at Stack Overflow. Curious about how AI is reshaping the product landscape and how Stack Overflow is positioning itself in this new era? Tune in to discover how Jody Bailey is leading the charge at the intersection of technology and community. You'll hear us talk about: 06:52 - Building Trusted AI Knowledge for EnterprisesJody Bailey describes Stack Overflow's enterprise solution that maintains a positive feedback environment and identifies subject matter experts. He emphasizes the need for a trusted knowledge layer to manage and distribute proprietary information within organizations. 13:43 - Leveraging Core Strengths in the AI EraJody discusses how Stack Overflow is focusing on its core strengths, such as human connection and technical information, to position itself as a vital source for technologists in a world increasingly turning to AI tools for quick answers. 19:52 - Trust, Adoption, and the Limits of AI in Development WorkThe conversation covers the importance of trust in Stack Overflow's community and how the platform ensures transparency and reliability, especially when integrating AI into its offerings. Jody highlights the need for a balanced approach to using AI without compromising on human interaction and knowledge. Episode resources: Jody on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodybailey/ Stack Overflow: https://stackoverflow.com/ Check out Monday dev: http://monday.com/dev Check our courses: https://productinstitute.com/ Timestamps: 00:00 Coming Up 02:18 From retirement to Stack Overflow 06:52 Building trusted AI knowledge for enterprise 12:19 Redefining Stack Overflow’s strategy for the AI era 19:52 Trust, adoption, and the limits of AI in dev work 26:08 Keeping junior roles relevant in an AI future 32:22 Internal transparency and advice for ambitious leaders

    38 min
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    Episode 237: Leading Creative Teams with Discipline with Keith Lucas

    Keith Lucas, author and former product leader at Roblox, joins Melissa Perri to discuss his new book "Impact," which focuses on building high-performing, innovative teams. Keith shares insights from his experience leading teams at Roblox and explores how visionary leadership and mission-driven strategies can inspire and align teams for success. The conversation delves into creative constraints, the balance between vision and mission, and the continuous improvement necessary for effective leadership. Ready to learn how to lead innovative teams and align them with your organization's mission? Tune in to gain valuable insights from Keith's experience and discover practical strategies for building impactful teams. You’ll hear us talk about: 05:45 - Visionary Leadership and Team AlignmentKeith explains the importance of visionary leadership and involving teams in strategy formation to inspire and align them with the organization's goals. He discusses how this approach helps in building trust and fostering a shared sense of purpose among team members. 15:30 - Creative Constraints and InnovationIn this section, Keith emphasizes the need for creative constraints and maintaining flow states to foster innovation. He shares strategies on how leaders can set boundaries that encourage creativity without stifling the team's potential. 27:20 - Decency Over Niceness in LeadershipKeith talks about the distinction between being decent and being nice as a leader. He argues that transparency and honesty are more valuable than mere niceness, especially when it comes to making tough decisions and fostering a culture of trust. Episode resources: Impact book: https://keithvlucas.com/writing/impact/ Keith on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kvlucas/ Check out Monday dev: http://monday.com/dev Check our course: https://productinstitute.com/ Timestamps: 00:00 Coming Up 02:40 Why Keith wrote Impact 09:33 Creating focus and the year of growth 15:30 OKRs, cadence, and Kanban approach 22:58 Mastery and ownership in high-performing teams 33:11 Course correction and tough calls 35:40 Decency over niceness and creating space for creativity 44:56 Intuition, mastery, and first steps for leaders

    52 min
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    Episode 236: Real Career Advice From Product Leaders

    Join Melissa Perri as she dives into some of the best advice about career growth in product management from an incredible group of industry leaders. Monica Lewis from LinkedIn, Kristin Dorsett from Viator, Dheerja Kaur from Robinhood, Lucie Buisson from Contentsquare, Ben Hafele from the Lean Startup Co., Marco De Freitas and Amber Brestowski from Vanguard, Oliver Seil from Belkin International, David Myszewski from Wealthfront, and Eilon Reshef from Gong share their insights on developing strategic judgment, embracing learning, and leveraging AI for productivity. Discover how focusing on impact over scope, obsessing over problems, and starting small can accelerate your growth in product management. Our guests also discuss the importance of market fit strategy, learning from missteps, and being open to unexpected opportunities. Want to accelerate your product management career with practical advice from industry leaders? Tune in to this episode for actionable insights and strategies to help you grow and succeed. You’ll hear us talk about: 07:45 - Embracing Learning on the JobKristin Dorsett talks about not sweating the small stuff and embracing learning on the job, emphasizing that nobody has it all figured out and the value of continuous growth in product management. 15:22 - Leveraging AI for ProductivityLucie Buisson explains how using AI can enhance productivity, allowing product managers to focus on strategic thinking and customer engagement by freeing up valuable time. 23:10 - Starting Small to Prove ConceptsBen Hafele introduces the "Convinced Do Loop," highlighting the importance of starting small to prove concepts instead of trying to convince everyone at once, thereby enabling more effective product management strategies. Episode resources: Monica Lewis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/monicamlewis/Kristin Dorsett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristindorsett/Dheerja Kaur: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dheerja/Lucie Buisson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucie-buisson/David Myszewski: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmyszewski/Amber Brestowski: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amber-brestowski-019b56ab/Marco De Freitas: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marco-de-freitas-80416714/Oliver Seil: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-seil/Eilon Reshef: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eilonreshef/Ben Hafele: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-hafele/Check our new course: https://productinstitute.com/p/mastering-product-strategy-overview Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 03:03 Monica Lewis: Grow where you are 04:28 Kristin Dorsett: Don’t sweat the small stuff 07:36 Lucie Buisson: Use AI to reclaim time for strategy 11:12 David Myszewski: Lean into what’s working 13:30 Amber & Marco: Obsess over problems, be ruthless with priorities 18:50 Oliver Seil: Learn with intention 21:20 Ben Hafele: Start small and let doing drive buy-in

    24 min
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    Episode 235: Inside Product Ops: How Teams Scale Strategy

    In this episode, Quincy Hunte, Mark Rosenberg, Vivian Finney, Jessica Soroky and Hugo Froes join Melissa Perri to delve into the evolving world of Product Operations (ProdOps) and its impact on scaling product management within organizations. They explore how structuring product operations can enhance efficiency, align business and technology goals, and transform how product teams function. The conversation also touches on the integration of AI in prod ops, aiming to elevate strategic involvement while minimizing administrative tasks. Join us to discover how these leaders are pioneering scalable planning, OKR systems, and treating internal teams as customers to improve decision-making and reduce friction. Want to learn how to optimize product operations for better strategic insights and decision-making? Tune in to this episode to gain practical insights and strategies for enhancing your product management functions. You’ll hear us talk about: 08:45 - Structuring Product Operations for EfficiencyQuincy Hunt discusses the significance of structuring product operations to boost efficiency and align technology with business goals. He emphasizes the need for agile teams and clear decision-making roles, which are crucial for product managers to understand. 18:20 - AI's Role in Shifting from Admin to StrategyThe conversation shifts to how AI can transform product operations by reducing the focus on administrative tasks, allowing product managers to engage more in strategic roles and decision-making processes. 31:50 - Treating Internal Teams as CustomersMark Rosenberg and Vivian Finney share insights on how treating internal product teams as customers can streamline processes, reduce friction, and improve overall decision-making, which is essential for product managers looking to enhance team dynamics and outcomes. Episode resources: Quincy Hunte: https://www.linkedin.com/in/quincyhunte/ Mark Rosenberg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-rosenberg-724653/ Vivian Phinney: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vivian-phinney/ Jessica Soroky: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicasoroky/ Hugo Froes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugofroes/ Check our new course: https://productinstitute.com/p/mastering-product-strategy-overview Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 02:42 Prod Ops fundamentals 07:45 Bridging tech and business through prod ops 09:42 Driving visibility and standardization at scale 16:11 Balancing autonomy and structure 17:39 Integrating AI and evolving product ops tools 21:35 Creating scalable planning and OKR systems 24:39 Enabling faster decisions through insight curation

    27 min
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    Episode 234: What Product Leaders Are Saying About AI

    In this episode, we delve into the transformative role of AI in product management through conversations with some of the best Product leaders. You’ll hear from Anthony Maggio (VP Product Management at Airtable), Jessica Hall (CPO at Just Eat Takeaway), Karthik Suri (CPO at Cornerston OnDemand), Mario Rodriguez (CPO at Github), Steve Wilson (CPO at Exabeam), Darren Wilson (CPO at Soul Machines), and Tamar Yehoshua (Former Glean President of Product and Technology). We explore how AI tools are reshaping strategy and efficiency, while personalizing customer experiences. Join us as we discuss the impact of AI, and the future of product strategy. Are you curious about how AI can revolutionize your product management approach? Tune in to discover insights and practical applications that could redefine your strategies and customer interactions. You’ll hear us talk about: 10:05 - AI's Role in Product StrategyExplore how product leaders are integrating AI into their strategic planning, focusing on addressing significant business and customer problems. The discussion highlights the experimental applications of AI in enhancing customer journeys and optimizing backend processes. 18:45 - Enhancing Customer Interaction with Digital AvatarsWe dive into the world of digital avatars and their role in creating empathetic and personalized customer interactions. This section covers how avatars can be used for language learning and practicing difficult conversations in a non-judgmental setting. 27:30 - Cybersecurity in the Age of AIUnderstand the evolving landscape of cybersecurity with AI's influence. Learn about the dual nature of AI in enhancing defenses and creating new threat vectors, emphasizing the importance of rapid AI adoption to stay competitive in the cybersecurity arena. Episode Resources: Anthony Maggio (VP Product Management at Airtable): https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonymaggio/Jessica Hall (CPO at Just Eat Takeaway): https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicalrhall/Karthik Suri (CPO at Cornerston OnDemand): http://linkedin.com/in/surikarthik/Mario Rodriguez (CPO at Github): https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariorodriguez3/Steve Wilson (CPO at Exabeam): https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilsonsd/Darren Wilson (CPO at Soul Machines): https://www.linkedin.com/in/dpjwilson/Tamar Yehoshua (Former President of Product): https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamar-yehoshua-886217/Check our new course: https://productinstitute.com/p/mastering-product-strategy-overview Timestamps: 00:00 Coming Up 01:37 Intro 02:57 AI raising the bar for PMs 06:57 Using AI to improve personalization 10:52 Reimagining products with emerging AI 14:55 AI behind GitHub Copilot 20:21 AI’s risks and impact on cybersecurity 24:22 AI avatars and emotional interaction 30:42 How PMs can stay relevant in the AI age

    32 min
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    Episode 233: How Linear Builds Tools Developers Actually Want with Nan Yu

    Join Melissa Perri as she sits down with Nan Yu, Head of Product at Linear, to explore how Linear is reshaping project management tools for software development. This episode delves into creating seamless user experiences, the evolving role of AI in product management, and the importance of aligning product strategy with company goals. In this engaging conversation, Nan shares insights on how Linear is designed to enhance software development, the strategies for balancing feature requests with strategic development, and the role of AI in reducing administrative burdens for product managers. If you're looking to understand how to align product strategy with real-world customer needs while leveraging cutting-edge technology, this episode is a must-listen. Don't miss out on this insightful discussion! Tune in to learn how to elevate your product management skills and strategies. You’ll hear us talk about: 08:00 - Restoring the Joy in Software DevelopmentNan Yu explains how Linear aims to bring back the fun in software development by minimizing friction and enhancing user experience, allowing developers to focus on creating. 21:00 - Rethinking Estimation and CapacityDiscussing the challenges of scope and estimation in Agile environments, Nan provides insights on how Linear encourages milestone-based development rather than fixed scopes. 40:00 - AI's Role in Streamlining WorkflowsNan talks about the impact of AI on product management, highlighting how AI can take over routine tasks, allowing PMs to focus on strategic and customer-focused activities. Episode resources: Nan on X: https://x.com/thenanyu Linear: https://linear.app/ Check our new course: https://productinstitute.com/p/mastering-product-strategy-overview Timestamps: 00:00 Coming Up 02:38 Dear Melissa 06:57 Getting into Linear 14:54 Making Linear engaging for developers and PMs 22:58 Capacity, estimation, and internal collaboration 29:58 AI’s role in streamlining PM workflows 36:07 Linking strategy to execution and future trends 40:45 Advice to younger self

    42 min

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Successful product management isn’t just about training the product managers who work side by side with developers everyday to build better products. It’s about taking a step back, approaching the systems within organizations as a whole, and leveling up product leadership to improve these systems. This is the Product Thinking Podcast, where Melissa Perri will connect with industry leading experts in the product management space, AND answer your most pressing questions about everything product. Join us each week to level up your skillset and invest in yourself as a product leader.

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