No Set Path: Entertainment Break-In Stories Rebecca Doyle
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- TV und Film
No Set Path is a biweekly podcast exploring how to succeed in film & TV by talking to people who have actually done it. Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/rebecca-doyle3/support
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31 - Screenwriting Paths w/ Sam Boyer (Nicholl Fellow, Black List x2, Academy Gold, Michener Fellow, CAPE New Writers Fellow)
Sam Boyer is an Indonesian-American writer who won the Nicholl Fellowship in 2022, was featured on the 2023 Black List, was a 2020 CAPE New Writers Fellow, and has twice been featured on the Black List's CAPE List. He earned his MFA from UT Austin’s Michener Center for Writers and his BA from USC's film school.
In this episode, Sam dives into his process in landing a spot in each of these programs, how to face and overcome rejection, tips for making time and space to write, and why his hypothetical presidential platform would include free chips & salsa at very restaurant.
BREAKDOWN:
3:35 - Getting on the Black List
7:24 - Black List 2023 script - “Foragers”
14:00 - Getting the NIcholl Fellowship
25:25 - CAPE Writers Program
31:17 - Getting into Michener
36:09 - Becoming an Academy Gold member
40:05 - Balancing work when you start out with a day job, making time to write, getting past writers’ block
50:57 - Tips for general meetings
55:43 - Getting initially rejected from SCA
1:00:26 - Rejection is normal
1:09:55 - Personal connection to stories
1:12:33 - Navigating management / reps
1:19:25 - Advice for people starting out / pivoting
1:26:39 - How he persevered through hard times
1:32:27 - The myth of the Overnight Success
1:34:19 - TIME CAPSULE
CONNECT WITH SAM:
IG @samboyer
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30 - Reading Your Hollywood Assistant Horror Stories w/ Michael Ritter
Rebecca Doyle and special guest Michael Ritter read and react to some anonymously submitted horror stories from Hollywood Assistants - complete with ranking the circle of hell each story's villain belongs to.
CONNECT WITH SPECIAL GUEST CO-HOST MICHAEL RITTER:
Instagram: @mkritter / @29goingonbreakdown
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-ritter-filmmaker
IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5778236/
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29 - Becoming a TV Writer with Ryan Lee (CSI: Vegas)
Ryan is a story editor on CSI: Vegas (check out his next episode coming out 4/21/24!) In 2018, he participated in the CAPE New Writers Fellowship, and in 2021 he part of the Paramount Writers Mentoring Program.
Today we’re getting into how Ryan turned his day job into the final thing that made the showrunner of CSI Vegas want to hire him, Ryan’s final application strategy on the time he was accepted into the Paramount Writers Program, how to be prepared for an interview with a showrunner for a TV writer position, how to deal with burnout, and so much more.
BREAKDOWN:
1:41 How Ryan got a job on CSI: Vegas
7:21 What makes a good director for a writer to work with
8:41 How to communicate with other departments as a staff writer
10:11 Are Zoom (Writers) Rooms the future of TV?
11:41 Getting hired on a show you’ve never watched
12:53 Should you work on procedurals?
15:31 Writing features vs. TV
18:40 Rejected from the Paramount Writers Program seven times before getting accepted
20:54 Cape New Writers Fellowship
25:20 Interview questions for a TV writer (CSI: Vegas)
27:10 How day jobs in writing contributed to landing a job in TV writing
30:20 Working through burnout
34:00 Write a procedural, not a Succession spec
37:10 - Don’t get precious, you need many scripts
40:20 Day jobs for writers
52:53 - Getting your first rep while still in college
55:15 - Decision to not have a manager
59:40 - Ryan’s “A story”! Example of how to pitch yourself in a TV writer interview
1:02:40 - Deciding: USC vs. NYU
1:05:20 - Advice
1:09:57 TIME CAPSULE
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28 - 5 First-Year Podcasting Mistakes to Avoid (Recap!)
BREAKDOWN:
3:29 - Overview Recap: Ideating, buying gear, launch, frequency/release cadence, top 5 episodes
6:05 - Finding guests - do guests’ audiences matter?
8:56 - Analytics: Gender split!
9:10 - How to get on the charts worldwide as a small podcast
11:30 - Spotify Labs
12:29 - Getting monetized through Spotify for Podcasters’ Ad Ambassador program
14:13 - Going viral on TikTok with a podcast clip
16:35 - Top 5 Mistakes to Avoid in First Year of Podcasting - #1: Not having clear goals
18:10 - #2 Not seeing out advice from people actually executing at your level
25:54 - #3 Not finding the balance of researching/preparing and starting/executing
28:17 - Avoiding tech issues + what gear I use
30:50 - Picking a hosting platform
31:35 - Total gear cost
35:19 - #4 Having unrealistic expectations about growing listenership
38:00 - how to optimize other platforms to get listens on your podcast
39:20 - hot take: maybe don’t start a podcast
42:47 - #5 Not having realistic expectations for podcasting as a networking tool
45:50 - Episode recap
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27 - From 1st AD to Director with David Gutel (Forty-Seven Days with Jesus, Ginger Root)
David Gutel’s theatrical directorial debut “Forty-Seven Days with Jesus” hits over 900 theaters this March! In this episode, we get into how David set his feature up for success through casting from similar popular series “The Chosen”, distribution resources and tips for independent films, how he used real estate tech to pre-viz musical numbers, why he decided to do a faith-based film after initially being hesitant and how he transitioned to directing after 8 years as a 1st Assistant Director.
BREAKDOWN:
6:00 - Pre-viz for a musical: Lidar mapping (real estate tools?!)
13:34 - Challenges: strikes, Texas heat, mechanical failures of picture vehicles (sinking boat!)
18:08 - Getting theatrical distribution partly through casting actors from “The Chosen”
24:10 - Distribution resources - Fathom Events & Pinnacle Peak as a resource for independent films, getting distribution abroad through hitting minimums at home
26:30 - Getting distribution tips recap + David’s initial connection to distributors
29:10 - Market festivals vs. competition film festivals
30:25 - From 1st AD to director
41:03 - First job as second unit director
45:19 - Challenging shoots: When to rise to a challenge vs. abandon impending disaster
55:30 - Recap of David’s path in the industry
58:30 - Is film school worth it? David’s experience paying $24k for CSULB
1:04:00 - TIME CAPSULE
CONNECT WITH DAVID: Instagram @davidmgutel / @fortysevendaysfilm
Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/shop/DeadMediaStore
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26 - Directing Your First Feature After Shorts with Michael Lukk Litwak (Molli & Max in the Future, SXSW 2023)
MICHAEL LUKK LITWAK is a Brooklyn-based filmmaker and cartoonist that was born and raised in Los Angeles. His first feature was ‘MOLLI AND MAX IN THE FUTURE’ a sci-fi Romantic-Comedy starring Zosia Mamet and Aristotle Athari and is often described as ‘When Harry Met Sally’ meets ‘Futurama.’ ‘MOLLI AND MAX’ had its world premiere at SXSW 2023, played at BFI London, Sitges, and Fantasia before its theatrical distribution in February 2024 and is currently sitting at 97% on Rotten Tomatoes.
2:21 - Molli & Max in the Future
4:31 - Admission to SXSW - getting in as a director on the 12th try
6:51 - The strategic side of top festival admissions
12:41 - What film festivals are worth it?
14:21 - Getting theatrical distribution for a first feature
15:21 - Additional benefits of theatrical release: NYT review, Late Night exposure
16:11 - Shooting with new tech - virtual production, volume stages, LED stages & green screen
18:01 - Creative solves to making sci-fi on a budget
26:59 - The Life and Death of Tommy Chaos & Stacey Danger - how Michael’s short that got rejected from every major film festival went viral and landed him representation
29:51 - Landing a $2.5 million Warner Bros show - only to have it scrapped with the shutdown of Go90
38:21 - navigating agents & managers as a director
44:21 - Impact of the strikes
47:07 - Cartoons
49:41 - Being featured on Humans of New York
51:21 - Support & understanding when married to another creative in film
53:25 - Things are not stepping stones and people won’t rescue you
56:16 - Getting inspired again after low points
58:21 - TIME CAPSULE
CONNECT WITH MICHAEL:
IG: @michaellitwak / @molliandmax
https://www.michaellitwak.com/
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