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Welcome to the 'Business of Dance' with your host Menina Fortunato. Tune in as we dive into insightful interviews with industry experts, sharing personal journeys and career advice for aspiring pro dancers. This podcast is your key to turning your dance dreams into reality.

The Business of Dance MENINA FORTUNATO

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Welcome to the 'Business of Dance' with your host Menina Fortunato. Tune in as we dive into insightful interviews with industry experts, sharing personal journeys and career advice for aspiring pro dancers. This podcast is your key to turning your dance dreams into reality.

    18 - Clifford McGhee: From Raw Talent to Three Super Bowls – Dancing Beyond Training

    18 - Clifford McGhee: From Raw Talent to Three Super Bowls – Dancing Beyond Training

    Episode Summary:

    Clifford McGhee shares his remarkable journey from a dancer with no formal training to performing with icons like Usher, Beyonce, Destiny’s Child, Janet Jackson, Missy Elliott, Genuwine and Will Smith. Despite facing challenges such as lack of family support and financial resources, McGhee's determination propelled him forward.

    He recounts his own struggles in pursuing a dance career, including a 36-hour one way bus ride to LA in pursuit of his dreams. He emphasizes how relationships play a crucial role in the entertainment industry.

    The episode delves into the highs and lows of the music industry, sharing stories of triumph and tribulation. From navigating record deals to facing rejection, McGhee and Fortunato offer valuable insights into resilience and self-care amidst industry pressures.

    As the conversation progresses, topics such as dealing with setbacks, embracing second chances, and maintaining longevity in the dance industry are explored. McGhee stresses the importance of self-reflection, moral integrity, and personal growth.

    The discussion also touches on the differences between dancing and choreography, the preparation involved in the Super Bowl halftime performance with Usher, and the intricacies of dance career paths.

    In the end, listeners leave with words of encouragement and empowerment, highlighting the significance of self-love, authenticity, and perseverance in the pursuit of one's passion in the dance industry.



    Show notes:


    00:03 How the speaker started dancing and became a professional dancer despite no formal training.


    07:24 The importance of relationships in the entertainment industry, with a focus on the speaker's personal experiences.


    15:27 Music industry experiences and challenges.


    21:18 Resilience, self-care, and giving oneself grace in the face of life's challenges.


    24:35  Dealing with rejection and not getting excited until the job is done.


    29:21  Dealing with setbacks and trusting the journey.


    34:06  Embracing dance career at 39, with a second chance to perform at a high level.


    38:40  Longevity in the dance industry with a focus on self-care and personal choices.


    42:59  Overcoming height limitations in dance career.


    47:56  The differences between dancing and choreography.


    52:41  Turning down job offers, Super Bowl performances, and finding opportunities to shine.


    57:14  Preparation for Super Bowl halftime show performances.


    1:03:23  Dance career paths with industry professionals.





    Biography:

    Clifford McGhee, originally from St. Louis, Missouri, launched his dance career without formal training, relying on innate talent and determination. At just 17, he began dancing with Ginuwine, kickstarting collaborations with icons like Missy Elliott and Will Smith. His career soared when he performed at the VMA's with Janet Jackson, marking a pivotal moment.

    Throughout his journey, Clifford worked with acclaimed choreographers and assisted acts like Destiny's Child and Beyoncé, expanding his skill set. Transitioning to the music industry as a recording artist with Capital Records, he later ventured into acting with a recurring role on NBC's "Crowded."

    Diversifying his creative pursuits, Clifford explored screenwriting, producing three well-received films for television. He recently contributed to Oprah Winfrey's production of "The Color Purple."

    Maintaining a lasting collaboration with Usher, Clifford has been part of 3 Super Bowl Halftime Shows, including Usher, Kendrick Lamar and Missy Elliott. With over two decades of relentless dedication, Clifford exemplifies how persistence paves the way for enduring success.



    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.facebook.com/clifford.mcghee

    https://www.instagram.com/clifford_mcghee

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    17 - Bloc Agent: James Coons: "Navigating Dance Careers"

    17 - Bloc Agent: James Coons: "Navigating Dance Careers"

    Episode Summary:

    In this episode of the Business of Dance podcast, host James Coons, a senior agent at Bloc Talent Agency, delves into his personal journey and insights into the dance industry. Coons reflects on his transition from a sports-oriented upbringing in Kentucky to discovering his passion for musical theater in high school, leading him to extensive travel with Disney and eventually to a fulfilling career as a dance agent.

    Throughout the episode, Coons emphasizes the importance of perseverance and clear decision-making in the casting process, as well as the significance of quality over quantity in agency expansion. He discusses the submission process for dancers, highlighting the need for effective communication and the submission of essential materials like resumes and footage.

    Coons also addresses the role of local agents for dancers outside major markets, stressing the importance of careful contract scrutiny and the cultivation of experience before venturing into larger cities. He touches upon industry standards for agent fees and advises young dancers to focus on building relationships within the industry from a young age.

    The episode further explores topics such as child talent agencies, the value of college dance programs, and the importance of self-care in maintaining a balanced dance career. Coons encourages dancers to find fulfillment outside of their craft, emphasizing the benefits of travel and diverse life experiences in enhancing artistic expression.

    As the episode concludes, Coons expresses gratitude for the opportunity to share his expertise and announces exciting developments within Bloc Talent Agency, showcasing the dynamic and supportive nature of the dance community.



    Show notes:


    0:03 Dance industry insights with agent James Coons.


    1:58 Transitioning from sports to musical theater.


    4:02 Passion for theater and dance, transition to casting agent.


    7:29 Casting process and agency work.


    13:22 Dance representation and marketing materials.


    16:42 Dance industry representation and local agents.


    19:22 Dance agencies, auditions, and relationships.


    25:08 Child talent agencies and auditions.


    27:15 Dance career paths and college vs. signing at 18.


    30:41 Career paths in the entertainment industry.


    37:03 College dance programs and their value.


    39:56 Dance agencies and parental involvement.


    42:26 Dance career development and self-care with industry expert James.



    Biography:

    James was born and raised in the small town of Paris, KY, and in 2009 he moved to LA to obtain his BFA in Musical Theatre.

    After graduating he worked with Walt Disney Company performing around the world including in Tokyo and Shanghai.

    Once back in LA he obtained his Bachelor of Science in Business and worked for Michael Donovan Casting for years and that is where he found his love for being on the other side of the table.

    For the past few years he has been building out the commercial and legit departments at Bloc Talent Agency and has a passion for developing emerging talent for the screen and stage.

    His other interests include seeing shows, traveling, working with children and just enjoying life.



    Website:

    https://www.blocagency.com/

    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/blocla/

    https://www.instagram.com/james_coons/

    https://www.facebook.com/james.coons.9

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    16 - Anthony Carr: The Cameleon: from Ballet companies, Broadway / Movie Musicals and Pop / Hip Hop World Tours

    16 - Anthony Carr: The Cameleon: from Ballet companies, Broadway / Movie Musicals and Pop / Hip Hop World Tours

    Episode Summary:



    Professional dancer and choreographer Anthony Carr shares insights from his career journey. Anthony's dance path began at age four, guided by his mother's influence as a dancer. He transitioned from ballet to hip hop, finding solace and freedom in the latter despite initial setbacks. 

    He reflects on his experiences in various dance schools and becoming an associate choreographer of The Wiz in NYC, emphasizing the role of mentors and support in his journey. 

    His story includes shifts from New York to Los Angeles, and even Canada working on films like Hairspray. He shares experiences of auditioning for TLC and touring with Corbin Bleu. 

    Anthony also touches on mentorship and parental support in dance, advising parents to give dancers space to learn and grow independently. He discusses choreography and working with directors, praising the skills of choreographers like Marguerite Derricks and Jamal Sims. Anthony's admiration for industry legends like Mikhail Baryshnikov and Michael Jackson is evident, showcasing his appreciation for their talent and impact.

    The episode concludes with Anthony encouraging dancers to embrace discomfort, take risks, and support each other, emphasizing the importance of staying passionate about the art form.



    Show notes:


    0:03 Dance industry insights and experiences.


    2:15 Dance career path and transition from ballet to hip hop.


    5:56 Dance career paths and financial sustainability.


    9:29 Dance career, business, and personal growth.


    16:35 Dance motivation and rejection.


    19:44 Dance career paths and experiences.


    26:43 Dance mentorship and parental support.


    29:33 Choreography and working with various directors.


    36:13 Dance career inspiration and industry legends.


    39:25 Dance career paths and industry insights.


    45:41 Transitioning from competition dancer to industry professional.


    48:36 Dance choreography and training with a professional.


    53:50 Dance training and career sustainability.


    57:14 Dance career, inspiration, and advice with Broadway choreographer Anthony Morigerato.





    Biography:

    Born and raised in the Bronx, Anthony "Kanec" Carr emerges as a distinguished figure in the global arts scene, renowned for his prowess as a dancer, choreographer, and actor. His journey commenced at New York City's prestigious School of American Ballet, demonstrating early on his unwavering commitment to his craft.

    Simultaneously, he pursued his education at the Professional Performing Arts School (PPAS), showcasing a dedication to both his artistic and academic pursuits. This dual focus propelled his growth, culminating in a fusion of exceptional raw talent and intensive technical training in ballet, tap, jazz, musical theatre, and hip hop by the age of 17.

    Kanec swiftly found himself gracing the stage alongside multi-platinum selling recording artists such as Justin Bieber, Missy Elliott, Usher, Chris Brown, Cardi B, and TLC, among other illustrious names.

    His portfolio boasts featured roles in prominent movies and television shows, including notable appearances in Step Up 1 & 3, FAME, Hairspray, the Justin Bieber 3D Movie, and Glee. His stage presence has illuminated celebrated venues like the Grammys and the Oscars, as well as various other prestigious musical award ceremonies.

    Kanec's creative genius extends to choreography, where his artistry has enriched the work of acclaimed artists like Neyo, Eric Bellinger, and Daddy Yankee. His choreographic creations have been showcased on televised events such as "So You Think You Can Dance," attesting to his ability to craft compelling movement narratives.

    Currently contributing to the choreography team for Broadway's "The Wiz" in NYC, Kanec's journey exemplifies a lifelong passion for dance, choreography, and the performing arts. 



    Website: 

    Kanec Carr | IDC Official Site (innovationdancecenter.com)

    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/klassikkanec/

    https://www.

    • 1 Std. 3 Min.
    15 - Mic Thompson: "Trick of All Trades: Michael Jackson, Ballroom Dancing, Disney, Las Vegas & Paris Extravaganzas, & more"

    15 - Mic Thompson: "Trick of All Trades: Michael Jackson, Ballroom Dancing, Disney, Las Vegas & Paris Extravaganzas, & more"

    Episode Summary:

    In this Business of Dance podcast episode, Mic Thompson, shares his extensive career journey. Starting with ballroom dancing, Thompson progressed to TV shows, Las Vegas performances, and a memorable impromptu gig in South Africa. 

    He recounts his path from working with Debbie Allen on the tv show “Fame” to becoming a main choreographer after starting as a Disney performer. A key episode highlight is Thompson's 1993 Michael Jackson audition, leading to a lasting professional and creative partnership.

    The discussion delves into the dance industry's dynamics, emphasizing the importance of relationships and networking, illustrated by anecdotes like Chris Judd's engagement through Mic's recommendation. Thompson reflects on significant career achievements, including choreographing for Disney and evolving dance choreography, notably for Michael Jackson’s "Ghost."

    The episode also covers Thompson's experiences with Las Vegas extravaganzas and training Chinese dancers, along with his involvement in projects like Pirates of the Caribbean. 

    The episode concludes with a surprise guest and Mic’s thoughts on the dance industry's history and the power of collaboration.



    Show Notes:


     0:03 Dance industry insights and experiences with a legendary choreographer.


     3:44 Ballroom dancing and Las Vegas show auditions.


     6:46 Early dance career in Las Vegas and South Africa.


     11:41 Dance career, Fame TV show, and industry experiences.


     15:40 Michael Jackson's Neverland theme park in the metaverse.


     20:33 Michael Jackson's dance crew and Nick Thompson's role.


     23:21 Dance industry, relationships, and Michael Jackson's short film.


     28:50 Dance career highlights and experiences.


     34:25 Dance choreography and performances.


     38:45 Dance careers, Vegas shows, and international choreography.


     43:34 Dance career, advice, and Pirates of the Caribbean experience.


     49:14 Building relationships and paving the way for a dance career.


     55:40 Building intentional relationships in the entertainment industry.


     1:01:37 Dance industry history and collaboration.



    Biography:

    Mic Thompson, a versatile choreographer, has made a significant impact on the entertainment industry. Known for his versatility, Mic was a guest choreographer for the Las Vegas School District (CCSD) Dance Festival, creating a dazzling "BOLLYWOOD" Pop production and "NEWSIES."

    Over his 25-year career, Mic has worked with clients like Walt Disney Animation, Disneyland, Universal Studios, Royal Caribbean, NBC, FOX, IBM, and Caesars Entertainment. Dubbed the "Trick of all Trades" by Dance Spirit Magazine, he seamlessly transitions between dance styles and mediums. His credits include stage shows for Disney/Pixar films, performances at Barneys New York Disney Electric Holiday Event, and choreographing for Disney Theatrical Regional Broadway productions like "Tarzan." Internationally, he showcased his talents at the Lido De Paris Theatre in "Bonheur" Extravaganza.

    Mic's contributions to choreography have been recognized with awards such as the Southern California Best Choreography Award in 2018 and a nomination for "Best Choreography On The Las Vegas Strip" for his work in "BITE" at the Stratosphere. Collaborating with Michael Jackson from 1997 to 2001 was a highlight, performing internationally and nationally, leaving their mark on award TV shows like the AMA and MTV. His tribute show, "The Ultimate Thriller-MJ Tribute Spectacular," has traveled worldwide, honoring the music legend.

    Mic's enduring legacy is seen in the MICTENDO inner-active illuminated dance routine, performed by the BYU World Formation Ballroom Dance Team Champions. Mic Thompson's career showcases his talent, versatility, and dedication to the art of choreography.



    Website: www.micsmatch.com



    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/micthompson/

    https://www.facebook.com/micsmatch

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    14 - Amy Allen: "From Ballet to the Big Stage: 2x MTV VMA nominee for "Best Choreography"

    14 - Amy Allen: "From Ballet to the Big Stage: 2x MTV VMA nominee for "Best Choreography"

    Episode Summary:

    On "Business of Dance," Amy Allen details her journey from Britney Spears's audition hopeful to celebrated choreographer for A-listers like Usher. Starting as a Laker girl at 17, she swiftly broke into the LA dance scene. Her fusion of ballet with commercial dance catapulted her to tour with Beyoncé and later to choreograph for major acts.

    Allen opens up about the hurdles of injury and the importance of self-care and creative vitality. She champions continuous learning and reflects on how further business education could have enhanced her career. Teaching herself to perfect ballet while teaching others, she advises using freestyle and life experiences to fuel choreographic work and stresses the significance of mentorship in seizing industry opportunities.

    This episode offers a wealth of knowledge for aspiring dancers and creatives, with Allen and host Menina Fortunato exploring the intricacies of the dance world and the entrepreneurial acumen needed to thrive.



    Show notes:


    0:03 Dance industry insights and experiences with Amy Allen.


    3:34 Early life, career path, and industry experiences.


    10:47 Dance career highlights and experiences.


    15:49 Dance career, competitiveness, and choreography.


    20:37 Music, dance, and work with various artists.


    25:55 Dance career, injuries, and choreography.


    31:24 Dance choreography and overcoming creative blocks.


    36:07 Dance styles, choreography, and creativity.


    39:46 Dance career, college degree, and personal growth.


    45:44 Dance careers, education, and dream jobs.


    50:28 Dance passion, choreography, and teaching.


    56:27 Dance technique and creativity.


    1:01:38 Dance career paths with industry professionals.





    Biography:

    Amy Allen is a remarkable figure in the world of dance and entertainment, known for her incredible versatility, creative choreography, and unwavering dedication to her craft. With a career spanning television, film, commercials, and live performances, she has made a significant impact on the entertainment industry and the artists she has worked with.

    Amy possesses the remarkable talent to transition effortlessly between hip hop and classical ballet, captivating audiences with her grace and poise. This exceptional skill set earned her two nominations for "Best Choreography" at the MTV Video Music Awards, for her work on Usher's "OMG" and Jason Derulo's "Talk Dirty" music videos.

    On the small screen, Amy's choreography and infectious smile have graced some of the most popular and sought-after television shows, including "So You Think You Can Dance," "Dancing with the Stars," "Ellen," "American Idol," "X Factor," "Good Morning America," "Jimmy Kimmel," "The Today Show," "GMA," "David Letterman," "Ellen," and "The Voice."

    Her talent has left an indelible mark on the industry, contributing to unforgettable moments at prestigious events such as the Nobel Peace Prize, European Music Awards, MTV Video Music Awards, Soul Train Awards, American Music Awards, MTV Movie Awards, Kids Choice Awards, iHeartRadio Music Awards, Grammy Awards, and BET Awards.

    Amy's expertise in artist development sets her apart as a mentor and coach. Her ability to fuse classic dance styles with a distinct hip-hop flavor has led to collaborations with a plethora of renowned artists, including Usher, Britney Spears, Ne-Yo, Ciara, Jennifer Hudson, Hilary Duff, Justin Bieber, Will Smith, Faith Hill, Kelly Clarkson, Alicia Keys, Florence and the Machine, Pitbull, Hailee Steinfeld, and many more.

    She ventured into the production industry, serving as a set designer for Jason Derulo's World Tour and TV performances. 



    Website 

    https://www.choreographeramyallendance.com/



    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/gotamydance/https://www.facebook.com/amylilfire

    • 1 Std. 7 Min.
    13 - Brandon Sierra: "MSA Agent & Director of Dance Department"

    13 - Brandon Sierra: "MSA Agent & Director of Dance Department"

    Episode Summary:

    In this engaging podcast, Menina Fortunato interviews Brandon Sierra about the nuances of professional dancing. Brandon, with his extensive background, discusses the crucial role authenticity plays in a dancer's career, particularly when finding representation. He addresses the difficulties for families who can't afford the costs of auditions and the importance of following instructions for self-tape submissions.

    Brandon underscores the importance of networking, suggesting that a good recommendation can lead to being signed by an agent. He counsels aspiring dancers to be patient, invest in relationships and friendships, and diversify their dance repertoire to increase employability.

    He also delves into the art of getting noticed by agents, advocating for a submission that is detailed yet focused on showcasing the dancer's true abilities. Concluding the conversation, Brandon stresses treating a dance career like a business venture, highlighting the value of education and strategic choices in training locations.

    This podcast episode is a treasure trove for anyone aspiring to break into the dance industry, loaded with practical tips and insider insights from a seasoned professional.



    Show Notes:


    00:00:43 - Introduction to the Business of Dance Podcast
    00:10:25 - Ideal Submission for Dancers
    00:21:41 - The Authenticity in Portrayal
    00:24:01 - Challenges in the Dance Industry
    00:34:53 - Guidance on Self-Tapes
    00:45:40 - The Power of Networking
    00:53:55 - Building Relationships and Training
    00:57:59 - Building and Training in Dance
    01:02:56 - Dance as a Business
    01:05:13 - Pursuing a Career in Dance



    Biography:

    Brandon Sierra is a prominent figure in the entertainment industry, having discovered his passion at an early age. His journey in the world of dance, vocal, and formal musical theater training led him to Niagara University. There, he earned his Bachelor’s in Fine Arts and Dance. During his time at the university, he had the privilege of working with the legendary musical theater duo, John Kander and Fred Ebb.

    After his academic pursuits, Brandon spent seven fruitful years in New York City. This period was instrumental in shaping his career, providing him with numerous opportunities and professional experiences. One of the significant milestones during this time was his association with The Broadway Dance Center. This institution played a pivotal role in laying the foundation of his career, helping him establish a robust network and form lasting relationships in the industry.

    Brandon's dedication and commitment to the entertainment world are evident in his work ethic and the high-quality service he provides. He is currently the Director of the Talent Department in LA and is associated with the MSA Agency. Brandon takes pride in his role, continually offering leadership and ensuring that the industry's expectations are not just met but exceeded.

    In addition to his professional achievements, Brandon's personality shines through in his interactions. He is known to be humble, always wearing a smile, and has left a lasting impression on those who have had the pleasure of working with him.



    Websitehttps://msaagency.com/team/brandonsierra/



    Connect on Social Media:https://www.facebook.com/brandon.sierra.148https://www.instagram.com/b4brandon/?hl=en

    • 1 Std. 9 Min.

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The best podcast for dancers or people who are planning to work in that industry or for those who’re just interested in it ;)
Thank you so much for this podcast Menina! 💖

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