373 episodes

In a time where we're all threatened by a rhetoric of hate from the people in power; A Gay And A NonGay challenges our differences. No matter who you are, or what you're into, gay's and nongay's can & should be friends.

'Highly Recommended' Guardian

'One of the most fundamentally kind and funny podcasts in Britain' RadioTimes

'A hilarious take on love, friendship and sex' TimeOut

An independent podcast from James Barr (@imjamesbarr) and Dan Hudson (@DanHudson). Find us on Insta, TikTok, Twitter and Facebook @gaynongay
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A Gay and A NonGay James Barr and Dan Hudson

    • Health & Fitness
    • 4.2 • 391 Ratings

In a time where we're all threatened by a rhetoric of hate from the people in power; A Gay And A NonGay challenges our differences. No matter who you are, or what you're into, gay's and nongay's can & should be friends.

'Highly Recommended' Guardian

'One of the most fundamentally kind and funny podcasts in Britain' RadioTimes

'A hilarious take on love, friendship and sex' TimeOut

An independent podcast from James Barr (@imjamesbarr) and Dan Hudson (@DanHudson). Find us on Insta, TikTok, Twitter and Facebook @gaynongay
Get bonus content on Patreon, with our super exclusive fan feed

    Some Men In London: A Conversation with Peter Parker About Gay History

    Some Men In London: A Conversation with Peter Parker About Gay History

    Happy Pride Month! In this episode, James and Dan are in conversation with writer and historian Peter Parker to discuss his new anthology series Some Men In London. The books explore discovered memoirs, letters and documents which depict what life was truly like for gay men in London between the 40s and late 50s.
    Both volumes are available to purchase now.
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    • 26 min
    How To Find Gay Friends In Your 30s

    How To Find Gay Friends In Your 30s

    How do you go about making male gay friends as a man in your 30s? Are heterosexual people allowed to use terms like 'top/bottom' and 'pillow princess'? And how does a closeted Hip-Hop MC go about embracing who he really is without risking his career? James and Dan explore it all in this episode.
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    • 20 min
    A Conversation with Eurovision's 2024 Winner Nemo

    A Conversation with Eurovision's 2024 Winner Nemo

    James and Dan caught up with the winner of 2024 Eurovision, Nemo. They chat about how the winning single was created, what's the tea on the dropped trophy and advice for anyone who is non-binary and struggling with their coming out.

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    • 24 min
    Can identity exist without labels?

    Can identity exist without labels?

    James and Dan use a previous listener dilemma as a starting point for a wider discussion around labels and identity. They also answer the question of why gays and lesbians don't get along.
    Listen back to the chat with Helen Scott here.
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    • 23 min
    Is it toxic for gays to be anti-pride?

    Is it toxic for gays to be anti-pride?

    Why are so many gays anti-pride? Is it internalised homophobia? Plus - are bisexuals just greedy?

    Dan ran the London Marathon in 3h 27! You can help him help Marie Curie here.
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    • 18 min
    Is monogamy a hoax?

    Is monogamy a hoax?

    James and Dan react to RuPaul saying that monogamy is a hoax. Is there such thing as monogamy with men, and is it a different script for gays and nongays?
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    • 22 min

Customer Reviews

4.2 out of 5
391 Ratings

391 Ratings

nobbymm ,

A great podcast

I love this podcast, great banter between James and Dan, both really likeable guys. Only thing I do find frustrating is James often generalises gay culture that every gay man sleeps around and is promiscuous. Although I know it happens a lot there is a part of the community this doesn’t represent.

Lord Duggan ,

Feel like it’s really gone downhill

Not what it used to be. Lost its lustre.

Oeffel ,

Sad Hudson here…

All three stars to Dan Hudson, I don’t know how he puts up with James Barr’s constant patronising vitriol towards him. My fear is that it is actually because Dan is… a straight man, and this whole podcast is a strange form of revenge fantasy for James. It’s as if every aspect of "straightness" bewilders and infuriates James enough that he feels justified tearing Dan apart for being a "member". Dan bats this all off with an enormous well of patience and dignity, but really must everything he discloses about his life somehow relate to the "flawed" nature of his heterosexuality? Personal and romantic problems Dan has relayed over the years have nearly always been strewn around the room in an effort to find evidence of the "toxicity" at the root of it. James’ disclosure of his own problems often lead to Dan having to "answer for" straight men, but when the shoe is on the other foot then James can see clearly in himself he is just one individual and does not speak for the whole gay caucus (Dan of course knows this too). Worse, that none of his problematic feelings and actions are his fault - that they are the fault of people like Dan, and therefore the fault of Dan. Why the lack of extrapolation? Does he not want to imagine that Dan is just as much of a three dimensionally idiosyncratic person as he is? Is it a competition to him?
What I hear increasingly often is Dan actually shutting down and giving up on what he was trying to say in the wake of the torrents of thinly veiled spite that invariably come out of James’ mouth. And this James doesn’t even seem to realise or care about - as soon as there’s room for it he’s off into his own world and lamenting and seething about how it all affects him etc. And I have a horrible feeling that if James reads this review then Dan will be in trouble again…
It upsets me that this man James, full of knee jerk reactions to moral inquests, doesn’t realise he is one caricature of the modern era of latent contempt we are all smiling publicly, and scowling privately, our way through.
I wish them all the best, they are both good people, and yes there are things they will never understand about each other. Dan by now though is more than acutely aware of his own blind spots and tries to be affirmative and sympathetic. James labels his own with words like "ridiculous" and "wrong" and "stupid". Here’s an intriguing question, one they might have considered discussing if this came across their desk about another show years ago: why does this podcast exist in its present state?
It really breaks my heart because it was such a frivolous yet optimistic idea, the guests and questions are often fascinating, and the tone used to be very kind and constructive, and now I can envision more cooly cynical people tutting and saying "isn’t this how you knew it would go all along… person X and person Y, you knew they weren’t going to figure it out didn’t you? And don’t go saying it’s because X had it worse than Y because we all do."
Can me and them please be wrong?

- Daf; pan, trans (because if I disclose this maybe James won’t bat my opinions away?)

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