In this deeply reflective episode, Leslie sits down with Amy DiGrosa, transpersonal life coach, clinical hypnotherapist, and university professor, to explore menopause as a spiritual initiation, identity shifts in midlife, subconscious healing, and the powerful call of the Camino pilgrimage. This conversation goes far beyond hormones and symptoms. Together, Leslie and Amy unpack how menopause, empty nesting, weight struggles, and emotional overwhelm are often invitations to reconnect with purpose, intuition, and inner truth. They also explore how hypnosis, community, and embodied practices help women heal at the root rather than constantly trying to "fix" themselves. What you will learn from this episode: 00:00 – Why menopause often coincides with weight gain, confusion, and identity shifts 01:30 – Menopause as a spiritual transition, not just a biological one 03:00 – Moving from caregiver identity to asking "What about me?" 04:55 – Why managing symptoms alone is not enough during menopause 06:45 – Asking for help and releasing shame during life transitions 08:15 – Introduction to guest Amy DiGrosa and how she and Leslie met 10:30 – Amy's work as a university professor and leading international programs 11:45 – Walking the Camino and why pilgrimage is transformational 13:10 – Growing up between countries and learning adaptability early in life 15:00 – How constant change builds resilience and flexibility 17:10 – Learning languages, making mistakes, and releasing perfectionism 19:05 – Parallels between language learning and healing relationships with food 21:00 – Why adults struggle more with change than children 22:30 – Adaptability, resilience, and responding instead of reacting 24:10 – Amy's introduction to hypnosis through her own healing journey 26:00 – How subconscious beliefs form in childhood 28:00 – Trauma, belonging, and the body remembering everything 29:45 – Dieting as a mask for deeper emotional wounds 31:10 – Leslie's personal breakthrough: realizing food struggles were emotional, not behavioral 33:15 – Internal self-conflict and how self-criticism fuels food issues 35:00 – Emotional release as the turning point in healing 36:40 – Why conditional self-love keeps women stuck 38:10 – Healing through hypnosis, therapy, and embodied practices 40:00 – Why no single tool works for everyone 41:45 – Following curiosity and inner nudges instead of rigid plans 43:20 – Empty nesting, menopause, and spiritual awakening happening together 45:10 – Identity loss after motherhood and discovering "Who am I now?" 46:55 – Shifting from religious conditioning to spiritual self-connection 48:30 – Asking bigger life questions: purpose, meaning, and contribution 50:10 – Responding to life instead of reacting from old programming 51:50 – Seeing problems as invitations instead of obstacles 53:30 – Why women often carry too much without support 55:10 – Asking for help as strength, not weakness 56:40 – Menopause as a collective, shared experience for women 58:10 – Introduction to the Camino pilgrimage 59:45 – History and spiritual meaning of the Camino de Santiago 1:01:30 – Why people walk the Camino during major life crossroads 1:03:20 – Walking as a form of healing and embodiment 1:05:00 – Community, generosity, and connection on the Camino 1:07:10 – "Buen Camino" as a life philosophy 1:08:45 – Using future desires (like walking the Camino) as motivation for healing 1:10:20 – Invitation to explore a future Camino retreat 1:11:40 – How to connect with Amy and access her free resources 1:13:00 – Final reflections on listening to inner guidance and trusting your path This episode is especially powerful for women in perimenopause, menopause, or major life transitions who feel disconnected, overwhelmed, or stuck in cycles with food, weight, or self-doubt. Valuable Resources: Join my next LIVE masterclass Join the 8-week Fastrack to Food Freedom Program -Guaranteed mental and emotional freedom from food Connect With Leslie Thornton: Book A Clarity Call Website Facebook LinkedIn Email: Leslie@hpwl.co If you enjoy the podcast, Would you please consider leaving a quick review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes in under 60 seconds? It brightens our day and helps us bring you incredible guests for top-notch content. Plus, I cherish reading every review! Click here to make a difference!
