
19 episodes

People to People podcast Hazel Darwin-Clements and Chimzy Dorey
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- Society & Culture
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5.0 • 5 Ratings
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We're exploring International Partnerships by having People to People conversations. As a Scot and a Malawian, we're particularly looking at the friendship between Scotland and Malawi. We chat about climate justice, gender, equality, COVID, privilege, history, farming and the future, oh... and MANGOES! Everyone wants to tell us how good Mangoes taste in Malawi. An important and complicated conversation filled with laughter, respect and warm-hearted love.
How can you have an equal partnership when one country is so rich and the other is so poor? If we recognise our privilege- what happens next? What does Restorative Climate Justice actually mean? Can you really grow all your family needs in a quarter acre? How has the pandemic changed our partnerships? How can friendship help protect the Lillian's Lovebird?
We want to include as many people as possible in the conversation.
Email: peopletopeoplepod@gmail.com
twitter:@PtoPpod
Instagram:peopletopeoplepod
**Hosted and produced by Chimzy Dorey and Hazel Darwin-Clements**
Supported by the Scotland Malawi Partnership.
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Kath, Matthew and Charles talk Fairtrade and farming
Hazel and Chimzy host a discussion between Scottish farmers Kath and Matthew Aitken and Charles Chavi about farming, bees, fairtrade and resilience.
Charles is from the Kasinthula Cane Growers Association in Malawi, he is in the Shire Valley region in the South of Malawi. An association (transitioning into a co-operative) of 762 farmers farming under 1435 hectares, on average 2.5 hectares each.
Kath and Matthew live in a small village in Scotland called Dunscore. Kath has recently retired from active farming on Auchengage farm, though as you’ll hear she’s still bee keeping, but she and Matthew now rent their farmland to their neighbours. And Matthew’s interest is in the Fairtrade angle.
This episode features music from Pulse of the Place https://www.facebook.com/pulseoftheplace
https://youtu.be/SXD6r2VDzMM
Red Hot Chilli Pipers and others at the Fairtrade concert:
https://ethical.tv/2023/07/02/world-fair-trade-day-with-red-hot-chilli-pipers-shooglenifty-and-presented-by-fair-trade-ambassador-gail-porter/
A film featuring Kath and Matthew and the Kasinthula Cane Growers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz-h6N5mc3U&t=3s
About Kasinthula Cane Growers:
https://www.trickleout.net/index.php/directoryofenterprises/Malawi_/kasinthula-cane-growers-kcg-sugar-cane-co-operative-malawi
http://www.kasinthula.mw/
Farmerama
https://farmerama.co/landed/
Find out more about Fairtrade:
https://files.fairtrade.net/standards/Cane_Sugar_SPO_EN.pdf
https://www.fairtrade.net/act/get-certified#:~:text=If%20you%20are%20a%20brand,you%20may%20become%20a%20licensee.
https://www.flocert.net/fairtrade-overview/.
https://wfto.com/what-we-do#our-guarantee-system. -
Richard and Nohara (Rugby in Malawi)
Chimzy and Hazel have a conversation with Richard Bennett and Nohara Chinguwo from the Bhubesi Pride foundation. They discuss the ways that the organisation is changing and has become a Malawian NGO. This series looks at partnerships between Scotland and Malawi and we think this is an interesting example to learn from. They promote sports for development and gender equality.
Bhubesi Pride page:
https://bpfafrica.org/about-us/meet-the-bpf-team/
The featured song is Gold by Twnda from the album African Love Story:
https://www.shazam.com/gb/track/612302166/ningenjelwanga-radio-edit -
Yonah and Amy part 2
The second half of a conversation about decolonisation with Dr Yonah Matembe and Amy Blake from the Challenges group (formerly Chief Executive of Classrooms for Malawi.) They discuss Neocolonialism, Afro Colonialism and decolonising ones own self first. An introduction to a huge topic that we hope to explore further in the series.
This episode includes the song Tiye Kwathu by Mtameni Kachusa who works for the Malawi Scotland partnership.
https://thechallengesgroup.com/
https://classroomsformalawi.co.uk/
https://www.scotland-malawipartnership.org/events/open-lecture-decolonising-the-curriculum-why-what-and-how
http://www.malawiscotlandpartnership.org/about-us/our-team/
Here's a starting list of decolonisation resources and articles list (please let us know what to add)
Reading University Decolonise the Curriculum Resource
Decolonising the University of Bristol blog
MMU decolonising the curriculum toolkit
Tackling Racism is Hard blog
Books:
My Grandmother'd Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies by Resmaa Menakem (2021)
Living While Black by Candice Carty Williams (2021)
Natives: Race and Class in the Ruins of Empire. London: Two Roads. By Akala (2018)
Me and White Supremacy. London: Quercus by Saad, L.F. (2020).
‘Why I Am No Longer Talking to White People About Race’ by Reni Eddo- (2017)
Films/TV:
A United Kingdom
Daryl Davis’ Ted Talk
The Color of Fear by Lee Mun Wah,
‘Black and British: A Forgotten History’ David Olusaoga (iPlayer)
The Ants and the Grasshopper
Provokative photography collage Art:
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Yonah and Amy Part 1
The first half of a conversation about decolonisation with Dr Yonah Matembe and Amy Blake from the Challenges group (formerly Chief Executive of Classrooms for Malawi.) They discuss Neocolonialism, Afro Colonialism and decolonising ones own self first. An introduction to a huge topic that we hope to explore further in the series.
This episode includes the song Tamba Wenga by the Bhundu boys on the album Muchiyedza (Out of the Dark)
https://soundcloud.com/bhunduboys/sets/muchiyedza-out-of-the-dark
https://thechallengesgroup.com/
https://classroomsformalawi.co.uk/
https://www.scotland-malawipartnership.org/events/open-lecture-decolonising-the-curriculum-why-what-and-how
Here's a starting list of decolonisation resources and articles list (please let us know what to add)
Reading University Decolonise the Curriculum Resource
Decolonising the University of Bristol blog
MMU decolonising the curriculum toolkit
Tackling Racism is Hard blog
Books:
My Grandmother'd Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies by Resmaa Menakem (2021)
Living While Black by Candice Carty Williams (2021)
Natives: Race and Class in the Ruins of Empire. London: Two Roads. By Akala (2018)
Me and White Supremacy. London: Quercus by Saad, L.F. (2020).
‘Why I Am No Longer Talking to White People About Race’ by Reni Eddo- (2017)
Films/TV:
A United Kingdom
Daryl Davis’ Ted Talk
The Color of Fear by Lee Mun Wah,
‘Black and British: A Forgotten History’ David Olusaoga (iPlayer)
The Ants and the Grasshopper
Provokative photography collage Art:
https://www.instagram.com/ugurgallen/ -
Mercy and Moira
Mercy Sibande is visiting Scotland to talk about the work she does in Malawi for the Mamie Martin Foundation. Chimzy and Hazel grab her for a chat in the first episode of this new series exploring what People to People partnerships look like in 2023. She is joined by Moira Dunworth and they look back over the last 30 years, and forward to the next 30. We talk about some practical hurdles an organisation faces to create an equal partnership in an unjust system. E.g. RBS will not allow Malawian Board members as they have no address that is acceptable by their organisation's standards.
https://mamiemartin.org/
The final song in this episode is played by Davie Luhanga. The song can be found here alongside some of Davie's other music.
https://soundcloud.com/davieluhanga/good-old-days
This show was produced independently by Chimzy Dorey and Hazel Darwin-Clements and is supported by the Scotland Malawi Partnership. -
Season 2 trailer
Hazel and Chimzy are sharing a feeling about embarking on this project. It's going to be amazing but it's going to be hard too. We're preparing to open up and get ready for some honest conversations about the relationship between Scotland and Malawi.