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In episode 32, we continue exploring canine anthropology with Marco Adda, the founder and director of AEDC (Anthrozoology Education Dogs Canines), and INS (Integral Neurosoma). Marco is an actor, scholar in canine-human relationships, educator, trainer, speaker, coach, and the host of the “In the Mouth of the Wolf” podcast. In this podcast episode, the symbiocene and the importance of humans cooperating with other species for mutual benefit. We reflect on the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on human - otherthanhuman-animal relationships, particularly focusing on Bali's dog population amidst tourism pressures. We explore the idea of embodying animality and discuss the value of pretending to be animals as a research and educational tool by integrating somatic practices to deepen our understanding of human - otherthanhuman-animal connections.



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PodCrew

Dr. Kris Hill
https://academiccatlady.com/

Dr. Michelle Szydlowski
ms835@exeter.ac.uk
www.internationalelephants.org
@intl_elephants

Sarah Oxley Heaney PhD Candidate,
University of Exeter
sh750@exeter.ac.uk ​
www.kissingsharks.com/Podlet Guest

Marco Adda
email: marcogerardoadda@gmail.com
Website: https://www.marcoadda.com/

References

• (toward) a canine anthropology:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/375837543_toward_a_canine_anthropology

• Recognising Anthrozooalgia on the Way to the Symbiocene:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/365353278_Recognising_Anthrozooalgia_on_the_Way_to_the_Symbiocene

In episode 31, part 1 of a discussion on canine anthropology,  we are joined by Marco Adda, the founder and director of AEDC (Anthrozoology Education Dogs Canines), and INS (Integral Neurosoma). Marco is an actor, scholar in canine-human relationships, educator, trainer, speaker, coach, and the host of the “In the Mouth of the Wolf” podcast. In this podcast episode, we discuss somatic practices between dogs and humans. We move onto cultural norms expectations and judgments upon dogs, whether free-roaming or home-contained. Then we discuss Marco’s concept of Anthrozooalgia (human pain and distress due to loss, misuse, or disconnect from other species). 

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PodCrew

Dr. Kris Hill 

https://academiccatlady.com/ 

Dr. Michelle Szydlowski 

ms835@exeter.ac.uk 

www.internationalelephants.org

@intl_elephants

Sarah Oxley Heaney PhD Candidate, 

University of Exeter 

sh750@exeter.ac.uk ​

www.kissingsharks.com/

Podlet Guest

Marco Adda 

email: marcogerardoadda@gmail.com

Website: https://www.marcoadda.com/

References

• (toward) a canine anthropology: 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/375837543_toward_a_canine_anthropology



• Recognising Anthrozooalgia on the Way to the Symbiocene: 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/365353278_Recognising_Anthrozooalgia_on_the_Way_to_the_Symbiocene

Trigger warning

This podcast is about grief and will involve discussions of death and dying. Here is a link to the Blue Cross for anyone who may need support following the loss of a companion animal: https://www.bluecross.org.uk/pet-bereavement-and-pet-loss

In episode 30, part 2 of a discussion on grief, we are joined again by Irene Perrett, a fellow researcher from the University of Exeter, who is engaged in PhD research on morethanhuman-animal grief.

In this podcast episode, we delve into the multifaceted nature of grief, highlighting its transformative process and the concept of continuing bonds with lost loved ones. We explore various coping mechanisms, such as memorial tattoos and rituals, as ways to maintain connections with departed individuals, including companion animals. Our discussion emphasises the personal nature of grief and the diverse ways individuals navigate the mourning process, challenging societal norms and expectations regarding the length and expression of grief.

Furthermore, we examine societal attitudes towards grief, focusing on cultural differences in mourning practices and the impact of disenfranchised grief on individuals' ability to grieve openly. We discuss language's role in shaping perceptions of grief, particularly the use of minimising language and the importance of validating individuals' grief experiences. Our conversation also extends to the emotional connections between researchers and their morethanhuman subjects, raising questions about ethical considerations and the potential grief experienced by researchers upon leaving their subjects.

Ultimately, our dialogue underscores the significance of narrative in recognising individuality and fostering empathy, particularly in research contexts where animal grief experiences may be overlooked. In the podcast we reflect on the broader societal implications of grief and the ethical responsibilities of researchers and caregivers in acknowledging and validating diverse grief experiences of those grieving.

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PodCrew

Dr. Kris Hill PhD Candidate, University of Exeter
kh458@exeter.ac.uk
https://academiccatlady.com/ https://katzenlife.wordpress.com/

Dr. Michelle Szydlowski michelle@szyd.mems835@exeter.ac.uk
@michszyd@intl_elephants
www.internationalelephants.org

Sarah Oxley Heaney PhD Candidate, University of Exeter
sh750@exeter.ac.uk ​
www.kissingsharks.com/

Podlet Guest

Irene Perrett PhD Student, University of Exeter
ip323@exeter.ac.uk

References found here: https://theanthrozoologypodcast.files.wordpress.com/2024/01/ep2930-refs.pdf?fbclid=IwAR25u8RcU9HFJsl4548bonnAg_F-GHBkgLs7sfPaLVzGJ_FMrHJ-NQ3_2aY

In episode 29 we delve into the topic of grief. We are joined in this episode by Irene, a fellow researcher from the University of Exeter, who is just starting her PhD research on morethanhuman-animal grief. We frame the discussion by highlighting the various dimensions of grief, extending beyond the human realm to explore how animals, particularly social species like elephants, also experience and express grief.

The conversation unfolds with the exploration of different definitions and perspectives on grief, emphasizing the contextual nature of grief definitions, grief as a disruptive emotion challenging societal norms and touch on the diverse causes of grief, including loss of habitat, forced relinquishment, and the death of individuals.

The discussion broadens to encompass disenfranchised grief, where society invalidates or minimizes the grief experienced by individuals, especially in the context of animal companionship. We touch on the criminalization of grief in certain situations, such as in incarceration institutions.

Our podcast references Judith Butler's concept of grievable lives, where irreplaceability, transformative effect, and embodied experience define lives worthy of grief. We acknowledge the subjectivity of what society deems grievable and highlight the coping mechanisms, including compassion fatigue and emotional calluses, that individuals develop in response to constant exposure to grief.

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PodCrew

Dr. Kris Hill PhD Candidate, University of Exeter kh458@exeter.ac.uk https://katzenlife.wordpress.com/

Dr. Michelle Szydlowski ms835@exeter.ac.uk
www.internationalelephants.org @intl_elephants

Sarah Oxley Heaney PhD Candidate, University of Exeter sh750@exeter.ac.uk ​hwww.kissingsharks.com/

Podlet Guest

Irene Perrett PhD Student, University of Exeter, ip323@exeter.ac.uk

References found here: https://theanthrozoologypodcast.files.wordpress.com/2024/01/ep2930-refs.pdf?fbclid=IwAR25u8RcU9HFJsl4548bonnAg_F-GHBkgLs7sfPaLVzGJ_FMrHJ-NQ3_2aY

Welcome to a special mini-episode of the anthrozoology podcast. Today we are discussing interventions developed for the treatment of juvenile and adult animal abusers. Our guest is Dr. Ken Shapiro, the founder of the Animals and Society Institute, and a clinical psychologist focused on the assessment and treatment of juveniles and adults who abuse animals.

Trigger warning, this episode discusses animal neglect and abuse, and may be troubling to some listeners.

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Podlet Guest

Kenneth Shapiro is a cofounder and President of the board of the Animals & Society Institute. He is a founding editor of Society & Animals: Journal of Human-Animal Studies, and a co-editor and a cofounder of Journal for Applied Animal Welfare Science and the editor of the Brill Human-Animal Studies book series. His most recent book is The Assessment and Treatment of Children who Abuse Animals: The AniCare® Approach.

​PodCrew

Dr. Kris Hill PhD Candidate, University of Exeter kh458@exeter.ac.uk https://katzenlife.wordpress.com/

Dr. Michelle Szydlowski ms835@exeter.ac.uk www.internationalelephants.org @intl_elephants

Sarah Oxley Heaney PhD Student, University of Exeter sh750@exeter.ac.uk ​hwww.kissingsharks.com/

References

The AniCare Approach: https://ndaa.org/resource/the-anicare-approach-for-treating-animal-abusers/

Animals & Society Institute: https://www.animalsandsociety.org/

Ascione, F. R., and Shapiro, K. (2009) People and animals, kindness and cruelty: Research directions and policy implications. Journal of Social Issues 65(3): 569–587.

B.A.R.K. https://socialwork.nyu.edu/a-silver-education/continuing-education/conferences-and-events/bark-diversion-program.html

Desomond’s Law: https://libguides.law.uconn.edu/c.php?g=923213&p=6653929

Shapiro, K. (2016). The Identification, Assessment, and Treatment of Adults Who Abuse Animals: The AniCare Approach. https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-319-27362-4

Today we are starting a new recurrent theme on the podcast, focused on the history, definition, and future of the field of anthrozoology. These episodes will be interspersed among our other content throughout the upcoming year. 

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We are honored to welcome our podcast guest, Dr. Ken Shapiro. Dr. Shapiro is a clinical psychologist, focused on the assessment and treatment of juveniles and adults who abuse animals. He is also the founder of the Animals and Society Institute, a founding editor of Society and Animals journal and the Brill Human-animal Studies book series, and the co-founding editor of the Journal of Applied Animal Welfare Science

 

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PodCrew

 

Dr. Kris Hill PhD Candidate, University of Exeter kh458@exeter.ac.uk https://katzenlife.wordpress.com/

 

Dr. Michelle Szydlowski ms835@exeter.ac.uk www.internationalelephants.org @intl_elephants

 

Sarah Oxley Heaney PhD Candidate, University of Exeter sh750@exeter.ac.uk ​hwww.kissingsharks.com/

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Podlet Guest: 

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Dr Ken Shapiro, https://www.linkedin.com/in/animalsandsociety/

 

Through expert interviews, personal insights, and research findings, "The Anthrozoology Podcast" seeks to foster a deeper understanding of our relationships with animals and inspire meaningful conversations about our place in the natural world. Subscribe to "The Anthrozoology Podcast" on your preferred podcast platform and join us on this enlightening journey as we explore the intricacies of anthropomorphism and its impact on our perception of the morethanhuman-animal kingdom.

 

References: 

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Alger, J. M., & Alger, S. F. (1997). Beyond Mead: Symbolic Interaction between Humans and Felines. Society & Animals, 5(1), 65-81. https://doi.org/10.1163/156853097X00222

 

Animals & Society Institute: https://www.animalsandsociety.org/ 

 

DeMello, M., & Shapiro, K. (2010). The State of Human-Animal Studies. Society & Animals, 18(3), 307-318. https://doi.org/10.1163/156853010X510807

 

Outdoor Cats. Special Issue in Society & AnimalsVolume 30 (2022): Issue 7 (Dec 2022). https://brill.com/view/journals/soan/30/7/soan.30.issue-7.xml

 

Shapiro, Ken. Defining HAS: Naming the Field by Ken Shapiro. Video: https://www.animalsandsociety.org/resources/resources-for-scholars/defining-human-animal-studies-an-asi-video-project/naming-field-ken-shapiro/ 

 

Shapiro, K. (2002). The State of Human-Animal Studies: Solid, at the Margin!. Society & Animals, 10(4), 331-337. https://doi.org/10.1163/156853002320936773

 

Shapiro, K. (2020). Human-Animal Studies: Remembering the Past, Celebrating the Present, Troubling the Future. Society & Animals, 28(7), 797-833. https://doi.org/10.1163/15685306-BJA10029

 

Singer, Peter (1975). Animal Liberation. https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/29380 

Wilkie, R. (2015). Academic “Dirty Work”: Mapping Scholarly Labor in a Tainted Mixed-Species Field. Society & Animals, 23(3), 211-230. https://doi.org/10.1163/15685306-12341312

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