The Sage Sayers

Debbi Gardiner McCullough

A weekly podcast on ways to stay calm and compel others as you communicate. Along with executive communications tips and strategies, we interview intriguing individuals who've found the "Sage approach" by finding gifts, opportunities, and knowledge within trying situations. New Zealander show host, Debbi Gardiner McCullough, has written on social and business trends and struggles for the Economist, the Guardian, and Financial Times of London. She's a self-retired college professor of writing, an executive communications and narrative coach. Visit her at: www.hangingrockcoaching.com

  1. 12/12/2025

    What if Grammar Stopped Being Brussels Sprouts and Became Birthday Cake? Patty McGee on our Need for Great Grammar

    Patty McGee never cared for how grammar was taught to her at school. “It was always so strict, rigid, and not interesting at all.”  After years as a teacher, Patty pledged to make grammar interesting for the kids she taught at school. From seeing such great results and children loving her approach, she co-wrote a book on grammar, one which we can appreciate as business communicators too.  In our interview, we hear of Patty’s new love for grammar, her book-writing process, and insights into the rules which make many of us feel stuck (like capitals or lowercase after a colon). Also hear her guidance on the em-dash, which AI tools love, and with that, make the punctuation mark (alas) less popular.  You can find Not Your Granny’s Grammar: An Innovative Approach to Meaningful and Engaging Grammar Instruction here. Please follow Patty McGee on LinkedIn here.  D G McCullough has written for the Economist, FT of London, and the Economist and taught communications and journalism at UNC Chapel Hill. She runs Hanging Rock Coaching and serves as a communications coach to leaders at Fortune 100s, including Google. Find her on LinkedIn.  Join her workshops on Maven, Brag Anyway, and Listen Like a Boss. Or book her for a consult on your bio, one-liner, and work story.  Note to my dear Listeners: This is the last episode of the Sage Sayers for 2025. Thank you for enjoying this podcast with me. We resume our show first Friday of January.

    26 min
  2. 29/11/2025

    Female Mavericks Co-Founder Beth Mazza on AI Images, Women Founders, and Creative Potency

    Co-Founder of Female Mavericks, Advisor, Coach and Cheerleader to Solopreneurs Beth Mazza joined the Sage Sayers the week before Thanksgiving, and I'm so glad she joined our show.  Our paths crossed from her intriguing LinkedIn post which highlighted that AI searches of images of female founders often yielded images of men. As a mother of three daughters and whose two exits as an entrepreneur totaled 7+ figures, Beth felt angered, and then intrigued and empowered to share the findings with many.  Her post yielded amazing responses, mine was one, and a connection formed. I too had found AI yielding sexist responses for headings for my writings, and more women founders want to speak out.  In our lovely ad hoc interview, we hear about Beth's love for entrepreneurship, motherhood, her 2026 book release ("Entrepreneur Like a Mother) and Female Mavericks, a program helping women entrepreneurs scale their business, launching March 2026.  We hear too of her love for writing and uplifting messages that will inspire you to found your own venture or continue to build the one you've begun.  You can find Beth Mazza on LinkedIn here and visit Female Mavericks here.  D G McCullough has written for the Economist, FT of London, and the Economist and taught communications and journalism at UNC Chapel Hill. She runs Hanging Rock Coaching and serves as a communications coach to leaders at Fortune 100s, including Google. Find her on LinkedIn.  Join her workshops on Maven, Brag Anyway, and Listen Like a Boss. Or book her for a consult on your bio, one-liner, and work story.

    37 min
  3. 15/11/2025

    "Creativity is Everyone's Superpower." A Conversation with Wiley Author and CEO Advisor Leslie Grandy

    Award-winning author, speaker, and CEO advisor Leslie Grandy guides teams, companies, and product leaders to leverage their creative thinking to elevate their organizations. She's worked across the entertainment, retail, and IT industries for the big giants whose names you'd know (including Amazon, Oracle, and Apple.)  Although her book, "Creative Velocity," encourages us to harness our creativity, Leslie herself felt highly uncreative growing up. She knew she was great at other things; but creativity felt something outside of her realm, which in part inspired her book.   In our lively interview, we hear of Leslie's first published work through Wiley (2025) and how that evolved vs the popular route of self publishing.  We learn of the serendipity of her careers which started in Hollywood and her leadership style which includes that enviable hybrid of kind, but firm, direct, but spacious.  I enjoyed hearing of the ebbs and flow in Leslie's career and the serendipity within. Also, how she found the Sage approach and the creative approach along the way.  You can find Leslie on LinkedIn and find Creative Velocity here, which will be a great read to add to our must reads by the end of the year.  D G McCullough has written for the Economist, FT of London, and the Economist. She runs Hanging Rock Coaching and serves as a personal branding coach to foreign-born leaders working at Fortune 100s, including Google. Find her on LinkedIn.  Join her workshops on Maven, Brag Anyway, and Listen Like a Boss.

    43 min
  4. "Life, Writing, and LinkedIn are just a series of Experiments." Content Creation Coach Cynthia Trevino on the confidence that comes from daring to stand out

    31/10/2025

    "Life, Writing, and LinkedIn are just a series of Experiments." Content Creation Coach Cynthia Trevino on the confidence that comes from daring to stand out

    Not often do I meet a fellow writer, entrepreneur, and problem solver like Content Creation Coach Cynthia Trevino. We met via LinkedIn after she liked something wild I put out there (a hype video for a workshop). I noticed her pithy, powerful title and headline she'd wisely crafted and invited her in for a chat.  I love that Cynthia has reinvented, started out as an entrepreneur after being laid off, and before YouTube or TikTok to guide us on how to market ourselves. She figured things out through experimenting, making mistakes, and rebounding.  Today she helps women 50+ years and over with their brand, gently coaching them to avoid the vague and broad, a common misstep for all of us, because it feels safe, and because it feels inclusive. I t is; and it is not. Vagueness and broadness anchor us within the sea of sameness, especially now with epic wild times and corporate upsets and a larger pool of job seekers and hustlers looking to replace lost clients with new ones.  You'll hear from two older writers and how we're working to keep our own writings fresh, interesting, fun, and (hopefully) impactful for our readers.  You can find Cynthia Trevino on LinkedIn (and please appreciate her clear, concise framing there!) D G McCullough has written for the Economist, FT of London, and the Economist. She runs Hanging Rock Coaching and serves as a personal branding coach to foreign-born leaders working at Fortune 100s, including Google. Find her on LinkedIn.  Join her workshops on Maven, Brag Anyway, and Listen Like a Boss. And on Luma, From Blank Page to Byline, a self-review writing workshop for the shy and humble and those writing about their year or quarter's work in English, their second language.

    33 min

About

A weekly podcast on ways to stay calm and compel others as you communicate. Along with executive communications tips and strategies, we interview intriguing individuals who've found the "Sage approach" by finding gifts, opportunities, and knowledge within trying situations. New Zealander show host, Debbi Gardiner McCullough, has written on social and business trends and struggles for the Economist, the Guardian, and Financial Times of London. She's a self-retired college professor of writing, an executive communications and narrative coach. Visit her at: www.hangingrockcoaching.com