Reducing migration: the trade-offs

The home secretary has a five-point plan for legal migration and he's in Rwanda working on a treaty he hopes will reduce illegal migration. Does the UK have to accept lower growth to bring the numbers down? And is Rwanda really the solution to illegal migration? Our weekly leaders, William Hague and Kezia Dugdale, discuss all this with Stig Abell and Aasmah Mir. They also talk about Boris Johnson's forthcoming appearance at the Covid inquiry and how to teach French.