197: Babes In Toyland with Jessica Traynor

Award-winning poet Jessica Traynor joins us to talk about 90’s alt-rock legends Babes In Toyland with some detours into their contemporaries Hole and Bikini Kill. We talk about female rage, taping late night MTV so you could watch in the next day, seeing your teenage heroes live, and lots lots more.

Jessica Traynor is @JessicaTraynor6. You can find her most recent collection Pit LullabiesI at jessicatraynor.com

Alan is ⁠@alan_maguire⁠. He does a bit of standup but Juvenalia is his main thing right now.

Sarah is ⁠@griffski⁠. Her new novel Eat The Ones You Love is out April 2025. Her newsletter is at ⁠griffnotes.ghost.io⁠

Thank you to Dee McDonnell for our artwork.

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This episode was produced by Alan Maguire

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