The Gut Health Gurus Podcast

Kriben Govender
The Gut Health Gurus Podcast

Kriben Govender is a Food Scientist and Gut Health Advocate. He is the founder of Gut Health Superstore, Nourishme Organics. He had a seemingly happy life which came crashing down. He was bullied in the workplace, his marriage collapsed, he lost his job and found himself alone in an apartment ready to end his life. Kriben soldiered on, and discovered the impact of gut health on overall health. His purpose is to share the importance of gut health in addressing many different health issues. In this show, Kriben explores how you can improve your health and wellbeing by focusing on your gut.

  1. 3 NOV

    Dr William Li on Food, Heart Health and the Microbiome

    In this fascinating episode of the Gut Health Gurus Podcast, host Kriben Govender, a renowned Food Scientist and nutritionist, interviews medical doctor and vascular biologist, Dr William Li on how to have a healthy heart, circulatory system and much more. Topics Discussed: 00:00 - Who is Dr William Li 03:06 - Why do we die from heart disease? 08:22 - How do we prevent heart disease? 15:00 - Current medical paradigm for heart disease? 21:36 - What is APOE? 25:32 - Dietary recommendations to prevent heart disease  31:32 - Dietary Supplements for heart health 36:15 - Statins and the microbiome 38:25 - Food as Medicine or Poison 42:54 - What are Plant Sterols  46:20- Tips to Handle Erectile Dysfunction 53:10 - Oral Microbiome 56:34 - How Viagra was discovered 59:10 - Dr Li's top Gut Health tip This episode is a must-watch for anyone interested in understanding the complex world of the gut - heart axis, the science behind it, and practical approaches to improving heart health issues. About Dr William Li: Dr. William Li is a renowned physician, scientist, and author, recognized for his pioneering work in angiogenesis—the process through which the body forms new blood vessels—and its implications for treating various diseases. He serves as the President and Medical Director of the Angiogenesis Foundation, a nonprofit organization he co-founded in 1994 to advance angiogenesis-based medicine, diet, and lifestyle interventions. About Kriben Govender: Kriben Govender is a Food Scientist, Nutritionist, and the founder of Nourishme Organics, a company specialising in gut health and fermentation products. With over 20 years of experience in the food industry, Kriben is passionate about the intersection of diet, gut health, science and well-being.   Sponsor: Nourishme Organics https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au/ 10% off using code : happygut Microbiome Stool Testing, Deuterium Testing and Nutritional Consulting https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au/collections/nutritionist-consultation   Connect with Kriben Govender here:  https://linktr.ee/kribengovender   Connect with Dr William Li: https://drwilliamli.com/   Download links               If you enjoyed this episode and would like to show your support:   1) Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts, give us 5 stars and leave a positive review     Instructions:   - Click this link  https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/gut-health-gurus-podcast/id1433882512?mt=2   - Click "View in Itunes" button on the left-hand side - This will open the Itunes app - Click the "Subscribe" button - Click on "Ratings and Reviews" tab - Click on "Write a Review" button   Non-Itunes users can leave a Google Review here: https://goo.gl/9aNP0V     2) Subscribe, like and leave a positive comment on Youtube   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq5KxLvGIY4r6SqNaAphEUw?sub_confirmation=1   3) Share your favourite episode on Facebook, Instagram, and Stories 4) Let your friends and family know about this Podcast by email, text, messenger etc   Thank you so much for your support. It means the world to us.

    1h 2m
  2. 23 AUG

    Dr Amine Zorgani on Achieving Optimal Skin and Mental Health

    In this part 2 conversation of the Gut Health Gurus Podcast, host Kriben Govender, a renowned Food Scientist and nutritionist, continues the interview with Dr Amine Zorgani a seasoned microbiome expert. They explore many interesting topics including optimising the skin microbiome for great skin and how to optimise gut neurotransmitters to improve mental health. Topics Discussed: 00:00 - Skin Microbiome Health for Optimal Ageing 12:57 - Gut Skin Axis 16:56 - Going back to Nature 20:01 - Novel Products for Skin Health 24:57 - How does the gut affect the brain? 32:16 - Gut Brain Axis Mechanisms of Action 40:20 - Tryptophan and Milk Kefir 42:00 - Serotonin and GABA 44:55 - Microbiome Personalised Medicine 49:02 - Women's Health 51:60 - Amines top Gut Health Tip  This episode is a must-watch for anyone interested in understanding the complex world of gut health, the science behind it, and practical approaches to improving gut-related health issues. About Dr Amine Zorgani:  Dr Amine, is a microbiome expert on a mission to save the human microbiome from extinction. Leveraging over a decade of research experience, he is at the forefront of efforts to unlock the potential of the microbiome. An engaging speaker at high-profile industry conferences, he shares his passion for realising the microbiome's potential to transform medicine. Amine's microbiome posts grab the attention of over 2.6 millions in the past year alone. He leads his team with an infectious optimism that, together, they can push scientific boundaries. His mantra is that perseverance and collaboration lead to breakthroughs. About Kriben Govender: Kriben Govender is a Food Scientist, Registered Nutritionist, and the founder of Nourishme Organics, a company specialising in gut health products. With over 20 years of experience in the food industry, Kriben is passionate about the intersection of diet, gut health, and well-being.   Sponsor: Nourishme Organics https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au/ 10% off using code : happygut Microbiome Stool Testing, Deuterium Testing and Nutritional Consulting https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au/collections/nutritionist-consultation   Connect with Kriben Govender here:  https://linktr.ee/kribengovender   Connect with Amine Zorgani https://microbiomemavericks.com/   Download links               If you enjoyed this episode and would like to show your support:   1) Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts, give us 5 stars and leave a positive review     Instructions:   - Click this link  https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/gut-health-gurus-podcast/id1433882512?mt=2   - Click "View in Itunes" button on the left-hand side - This will open the Itunes app - Click the "Subscribe" button - Click on "Ratings and Reviews" tab - Click on "Write a Review" button   Non-Itunes users can leave a Google Review here: https://goo.gl/9aNP0V     2) Subscribe, like and leave a positive comment on Youtube   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq5KxLvGIY4r6SqNaAphEUw?sub_confirmation=1   3) Share your favourite episode on Facebook, Instagram, and Stories 4) Let your friends and family know about this Podcast by email, text, messenger etc   Thank you so much for your support. It means the world to us.

    54 min
  3. 5 JUL

    Dr Amine Zorgani on novel microbiome therapies and vaginal health

    In this cutting edge episode of the Gut Health Gurus Podcast, host Kriben Govender, a renowned Food Scientist and nutritionist, interviews with Dr Amine a seasoned microbiome expert. Dr Amine Zorgani brings to light some interesting and novel microbiome research topics: Live Biotherapeutic Products, Reproductive and Infant health, Bacterial Vaginosis, vaginal health and much more. Topics Discussed: 00:00 - Dr Amine Zorgani's Story 04:20 - Dr Amine's passion from the microbiome 09:00 - From Engineering to Microbiome Research (Advice for Students) 13:41 - Approved Microbiome Based Therapies  21:18 - How are Live Biotherapeutic Products administered 23:52 - Novel Microbiome Technologies for Woman and Infants 30:00 - Synthetic Biology in Microbiome research  This episode is a must-watch for anyone interested in understanding the complex world of gut health, the science behind it, and practical approaches to improving gut-related health issues. About Dr Amine Zorgani:  Dr Amine, is a microbiome expert on a mission to save the human microbiome from extinction. Leveraging over a decade of research experience, he is at the forefront of efforts to unlock the potential of the microbiome. An engaging speaker at high-profile industry conferences, he shares his passion for realising the microbiome's potential to transform medicine. Amine's microbiome posts grab the attention of over 2.6 millions in the past year alone. He leads his team with an infectious optimism that, together, they can push scientific boundaries. His mantra is that perseverance and collaboration lead to breakthroughs. About Kriben Govender: Kriben Govender is a Food Scientist, Registered Nutritionist, and the founder of Nourishme Organics, a company specialising in gut health products. With over 20 years of experience in the food industry, Kriben is passionate about the intersection of diet, gut health, and well-being.   Sponsor: Nourishme Organics https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au 10% off using code : happygut Microbiome Stool Testing, Deuterium Testing and Nutritional Consulting https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au/collections/nutritionist-consultation   Connect with Kriben Govender here:  https://linktr.ee/kribengovender   Connect with Amine Zorgani https://microbiomemavericks.com/   Download links               If you enjoyed this episode and would like to show your support:   1) Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts, give us 5 stars and leave a positive review     Instructions:   - Click this link  https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/gut-health-gurus-podcast/id1433882512?mt=2   - Click "View in Itunes" button on the left-hand side - This will open the Itunes app - Click the "Subscribe" button - Click on "Ratings and Reviews" tab - Click on "Write a Review" button   Non-Itunes users can leave a Google Review here: https://goo.gl/9aNP0V     2) Subscribe, like and leave a positive comment on Youtube   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq5KxLvGIY4r6SqNaAphEUw?sub_confirmation=1   3) Share your favourite episode on Facebook, Instagram, and Stories 4) Let your friends and family know about this Podcast by email, text, messenger etc   Thank you so much for your support. It means the world to us.

    37 min
  4. 11 MAY

    Morley Robbins on The Copper Sugar Connection and the PAM Enzyme

    In this mind blowing episode of the Gut Health Gurus Podcast, host Kriben Govender, a renowned Food Scientist and nutritionist, welcomes back popular guest Morley Robbins for a third round interview. They cover the impact of sugar, iron and copper on hormonal systems. The mysterious and important Peptidyl-glycine alpha-amidating monooxygenase (PAM) enzyme is also discussed.   🌟 Topics Covered: 🌟 - What has Morley learnt in 2024?  - The Sugar and Iron Connection  - How does Copper Manage Glucose?  - Strategies to Mitigate Hormonal Imbalances  - Adjustments to the Root Cause Protocol  - Root Cause Protocol Refresher  - Food Sources of Copper and the impact of Glyphosate - Evil Empire?  - What is the PAM Enzyme? Peptidyl-glycine alpha-amidating monooxygenase  - Morley's top gut health tip   About Morley Robbins:  Morley Robbins is the creator and founder of The Root Cause Protocol and the Magnesium Advocacy Group. Morley received his BA in Biology from Denison University in Ohio and holds an MBA from George Washington University in healthcare administration. Morley has trained in wellness coaching, nutritional counselling, and functional diagnostic nutrition. He is also known as the Magnesium Man due to his extensive research into and understanding of magnesium’s role in the body. Morley’s research saw him deciphering the intricate relationship between magnesium, iron, copper, and calcium as a way to free ourselves from illness and dis-ease. As a certified health coach with an expertise in Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis (HTMA), Morley has performed thousands of RCP one-on-one consultations, helping people feel better by getting to the root cause of their symptoms. About Kriben Govender: Kriben Govender is a Food Scientist, Registered Nutritionist, and the founder of Nourishme Organics, a company specialising in gut health products. With over 20 years of experience in the food industry, Kriben is passionate about the intersection of diet, gut health, and well-being.   Sponsor: Nourishme Organics https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au/collections/root-cause-protocol 10% off using code : happygut Microbiome Stool Testing, Deuterium Testing and Nutritional Consulting https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au/collections/nutritionist-consultation   Connect with Kriben Govender here:  https://linktr.ee/kribengovender   Connect with Morley Robbins https://therootcauseprotocol.com/   Download links               If you enjoyed this episode and would like to show your support:   1) Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts, give us 5 stars and leave a positive review     Instructions:   - Click this link  https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/gut-health-gurus-podcast/id1433882512?mt=2   - Click "View in Itunes" button on the left-hand side - This will open the Itunes app - Click the "Subscribe" button - Click on "Ratings and Reviews" tab - Click on "Write a Review" button   Non-Itunes users can leave a Google Review here: https://goo.gl/9aNP0V     2) Subscribe, like and leave a positive comment on Youtube   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq5KxLvGIY4r6SqNaAphEUw?sub_confirmation=1   3) Share your favourite episode on Facebook, Instagram, and Stories 4) Let your friends and family know about this Podcast by email, text, messenger etc   Thank you so much for your support. It means the world to us.

    59 min
  5. 3 MAR

    Dr Jelena Vulevic on Delaying Ageing using Prebiotics and Postbiotics

    In this revolutionary episode of the Gut Health Gurus Podcast, host Kriben Govender, a renowned Food Scientist and nutritionist, converses with Gut Microbiologist and Microbiome expert Dr Jelena Vulevic on Prebiotic supplementation (Beta GOS), and about her ground breaking research into delaying ageing and addressing hormonal and skin issues using novel postbiotic supplement based on Bifidobacteria breve.   🌟 Topics Covered: 🌟  - Introduction to Dr. Jelena Vulevic  - Discussion on Nicola Tesla's influence and Jelena's journey from Bosnia to the UK.  - The gut microbiome's impact on the immune system and the importance of microbiota in early life.  - Ulcerative Colitis and Crohns Disease  - Microbiota/ Microbiome biomarkers for disease and health  - Postbiotics: The Frontier in Gut Health  - Prebiotic Beta Galactooligosaccharide (Beta GOS)  - Benefits of Beta GOS- IBS sufferers, Ulcerative Colitis  - Key benefits of Prebiotic Beta GOS  - Beneficial strains targeted by Beta GOS  - How is the Gut and Brain connected?  - What is Gut Health - the hormone connection  - Novel Postbiotics for Gut Health: Y Skin  - What does the benefits of Y Skin persist post supplementation  - Bifidobacterium breve BB091109 Strain Selection  - Delaying Ageing   - The Skin Gut Connection  - The Future Direction of Microbiome Research  - Artificial Intelligence Technology in Microbiome Research  - Dr Jelena's top gut health tip   About Dr. Jelena Vulevic: Dr Jelena Vulevic is a visionary, results-driven professional with 20 years of an in-depth scientific and clinical knowledge to developing therapies based on human gut microbiota. She has collaborated with some of World’s leading research centres and was involved in nearly 50 clinical studies within the field of microbiota in gut, immune and brain health. About Kriben Govender: Kriben Govender is a Food Scientist, Registered Nutritionist, and the founder of Nourishme Organics, a company specialising in gut health products. With over 20 years of experience in the food industry, Kriben is passionate about the intersection of diet, gut health, and well-being.   Sponsor: Nourishme Organics https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au/ 10% off using code : happygut Microbiome Stool Testing, Deuterium Testing and Nutritional Consulting https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au/collections/nutritionist-consultation     Connect with Kriben Govender here:  https://linktr.ee/kribengovender   Connect with Dr Jelena Vulevic https://www.linkedin.com/in/jelena-vulevic-a1394b18a/   Download links               If you enjoyed this episode and would like to show your support:   1) Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts, give us 5 stars and leave a positive review     Instructions:   - Click this link  https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/gut-health-gurus-podcast/id1433882512?mt=2   - Click "View in Itunes" button on the left-hand side - This will open the Itunes app - Click the "Subscribe" button - Click on "Ratings and Reviews" tab - Click on "Write a Review" button   Non-Itunes users can leave a Google Review here: https://goo.gl/9aNP0V     2) Subscribe, like and leave a positive comment on Youtube   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq5KxLvGIY4r6SqNaAphEUw?sub_confirmation=1   3) Share your favourite episode on Facebook, Instagram, and Stories 4) Let your friends and family know about this Podcast by email, text, messenger etc   Thank you so much for your support. It means the world to us.

    1h 7m
  6. 10/12/2023

    Dr Brad Leech on Link Between Leaky Gut and Microbiome

    Join Kriben Govender, a seasoned food scientist and gut health expert, as he sits down with Dr. Brad Leech, a clinical nutritionist with a profound understanding of the microbiome. In this enlightening conversation, they delve into the complex world of gut health and explore how it's intricately linked to our overall well-being. You'll discover: The importance of the microbiome in autoimmune conditions and overall health. The staggering diversity of bacteria within our gut and what it means for us. Lifestyle factors that are diminishing our microbiome diversity. Simple, actionable steps you can take to enrich the diversity of your gut microbiome.   🌟 Topics Covered: 🌟 00:30 - Introduction to Dr. Brad Leech 02:03 - Dr. Leech's journey into microbiome research 04:51 - What is the microbiome? 08:07 - Factors impacting the diversity of the Gut Microbiome 10:44 - How to boost your microbiome diversity 15:51 - Dealing with a Patient with Gut Issues 18:30 - What is Leaky Gut/ Intestinal Permeability? 21:00 - What are Lipopolysaccharides? 23:49 - Species that drive Hexa Lipopolysaccharides? 25:29 - How does Hexa Lipopolysaccharides affect patients with leaky gut? 26:28 - How to deal with Hexa Lipopolysaccharides using Prebiotic GOS supplement? 26:28 - How to deal with Hexa Lipopolysaccharides? 30:45 - Different types of GOS 32:10 - Different types of Prebiotics- PHGG, Inulin, Human Milk Oligosaccharides (HMOs) 32:31 - When to use PHGG? - constipation  34:29 - Microba Functional Microbiome Stool Testing 43:17 - What's exciting Brad in Microbiome Research: Functional Dysbiosis, Pathobionts 48:39 - Blastocystis and Dientamoeba fragilis Parasites 52:32 - Why is Microba Stool Testing useful in a clinical setting? 53:46 - Rob Knights 16s translation to WGS 56:40 - Brad's Courses 57:12 - Brad's top Gut Health tip  About Dr. Brad Leech: Dr. Brad Leech is a PhD-qualified clinical nutritionist with a special interest in the microbiome and its impact on health. His approach combines evidence-based science with practical, real-world advice to help individuals improve their gut health. About Kriben Govender: Kriben Govender is a Food Scientist, Registered Nutritionist, and the founder of Nourishme Organics, a company specialising in gut health products. With over 20 years of experience in the food industry, Kriben is passionate about the intersection of diet, gut health, and well-being.   Sponsor: Nourishme Organics https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au/ 10% off using code : happygut   Microbiome Stool Testing, Deuterium Testing and Nutritional Consulting https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au/collections/nutritionist-consultation   Connect with Kriben Govender here:  https://linktr.ee/kribengovender   Connect with Dr Brad Leech https://drbradleech.com/   Download links               If you enjoyed this episode and would like to show your support:   1) Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts, give us 5 stars and leave a positive review     Instructions:   - Click this link  https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/gut-health-gurus-podcast/id1433882512?mt=2   - Click "View in Itunes" button on the left-hand side - This will open the Itunes app - Click the "Subscribe" button - Click on "Ratings and Reviews" tab - Click on "Write a Review" button   Non-Itunes users can leave a Google Review here: https://goo.gl/9aNP0V     2) Subscribe, like and leave a positive comment on Youtube   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq5KxLvGIY4r6SqNaAphEUw?sub_confirmation=1   3) Share your favourite episode on Facebook, Instagram, and Stories 4) Let your friends and family know about this Podcast by email, text, messenger etc   Thank you so much for your support. It means the world to us.

    59 min
  7. 12/10/2023

    Ayurveda Meets Gut Health: A Comprehensive Talk with Dr. Dimple Jangda

    In this enlightening interview, we delve deep into the ancient wisdom of Ayurveda and its relevance in modern gut health management. Dr. Dimple Janga, an expert in Ayurveda and gut health, shares invaluable insights and practical tips to improve your digestive system and overall well-being. Remember to Like, Share, and Subscribe for more insightful discussions!   Topics Discussed: Introduction and Dr. Dimple's Journey  What is Ayurveda?  Ayurvedic Body Types  Balancing your Diet using taste  Eating based on how you feel and time of day  Astrology and Ayurvedic  How do the seasons relate to Ayurveda? How does Ayurveda and Gut Health relate?  What does Ayurveda say about bacteria?  Ayurvedic Enemas  How is Ayurveda use to tackle common gut health issues?  Ayurveda and Sinusitis  The Body's Energy Clock  Dr Dimples up coming book  Dr Dimples top Gut Health Tip   Sponsor: Nourishme Organics https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au/ 10% off using code : happygut Microbiome Stool Testing, Deuterium Testing and Nutritional Consulting https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au/collections/nutritionist-consultation   Connect with Kriben Govender here:  https://linktr.ee/kribengovender   Connect with Dr Dimple Jangda: https://pranabydimple.com/   Download links               If you enjoyed this episode and would like to show your support:   1) Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts, give us 5 stars and leave a positive review     Instructions:   - Click this link  https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/gut-health-gurus-podcast/id1433882512?mt=2   - Click "View in Itunes" button on the left-hand side - This will open the Itunes app - Click the "Subscribe" button - Click on "Ratings and Reviews" tab - Click on "Write a Review" button   Non-Itunes users can leave a Google Review here: https://goo.gl/9aNP0V     2) Subscribe, like and leave a positive comment on Youtube   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq5KxLvGIY4r6SqNaAphEUw?sub_confirmation=1   3) Share your favourite episode on Facebook, Instagram, and Stories 4) Let your friends and family know about this Podcast by email, text, messenger etc   Thank you so much for your support. It means the world to us.

    1h 11m
  8. 04/09/2023

    Dr Chadi Nabhan on Monsanto Trials :Glyphosate Exposed

    Dr Chadi Nabhan, MD, is an oncologist who has been involved in litigation cases with Monsanto. In this video, we explore glyphosate and his involvement in the Monsato Trials. Remember to Like, Share, and Subscribe for more insightful discussions!   Topics Discussed:   Who is Dr Chadi Nabhan? Chadi's clinical experience in Oncology  Chadi's most memorable Oncology patient story  What is Cancer and what causes it?  Treatment options and Preventative Measures?   Cancers of the Gut Introduction to Monsanto Trial - Round Up- Glyphosate Martha's top gut health tip History of Glyphosate and Round up GMO Round up ready seeds  When did large scale Glyphosate exposure start?  Cancer, Chronic Disease and Glyphosate  How to mitigate the risks of Glyphosate?  EPA and Glyphosate How to reduce Glyphosate exposure  Why did Chadi testify against Monsanto?  Toxic Exposure Book Monsanto Trial Timeline  Monsanto Estimated Payout  Health is Wealth  Flow on effects of Glyphosates  Just say no to Glyphosate  Chadi's gut health message   Sponsor: Nourishme Organics https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au/ 10% off using code : happygut Microbiome Stool Testing, Deuterium Testing and Nutritional Consulting https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au/collections/nutritionist-consultation   Connect with Kriben Govender here:  https://linktr.ee/kribengovender   Connect with Chadi Nabhan: https://chadinabhan.com/   Download links               If you enjoyed this episode and would like to show your support:   1) Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts, give us 5 stars and leave a positive review     Instructions:   - Click this link  https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/gut-health-gurus-podcast/id1433882512?mt=2   - Click "View in Itunes" button on the left-hand side - This will open the Itunes app - Click the "Subscribe" button - Click on "Ratings and Reviews" tab - Click on "Write a Review" button   Non-Itunes users can leave a Google Review here: https://goo.gl/9aNP0V     2) Subscribe, like and leave a positive comment on Youtube   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq5KxLvGIY4r6SqNaAphEUw?sub_confirmation=1   3) Share your favourite episode on Facebook, Instagram, and Stories 4) Let your friends and family know about this Podcast by email, text, messenger etc   Thank you so much for your support. It means the world to us.

    54 min

About

Kriben Govender is a Food Scientist and Gut Health Advocate. He is the founder of Gut Health Superstore, Nourishme Organics. He had a seemingly happy life which came crashing down. He was bullied in the workplace, his marriage collapsed, he lost his job and found himself alone in an apartment ready to end his life. Kriben soldiered on, and discovered the impact of gut health on overall health. His purpose is to share the importance of gut health in addressing many different health issues. In this show, Kriben explores how you can improve your health and wellbeing by focusing on your gut.

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