HVAC School - For Techs, By Techs

Bryan Orr
HVAC School - For Techs, By Techs Podcast

Real training for HVAC ( Heating, Ventilation, Air Conditioning and Refrigeration) Technicians. Including recorded tech training, interviews, diagnostics and general conversations about the trade.

  1. Q&A - How to Deploy a Dehum - Short #211

    4 HR AGO

    Q&A - How to Deploy a Dehum - Short #211

    In this short Q&A podcast episode, Bryan answers Howard's question about how to deploy a dehumidifier (dehum) in a sealed home. He addresses things like location and fresh air requirements in green-grass markets with high dew points.  Before deploying a dehumidifier, you will need to know about the climate, the structure, and the client's complaints, budget, and comfort goals. You need to make sure the HVAC system is properly installed; the most common obstacle to proper dehumidification is oversizing. HVAC systems need a cold coil to pull moisture out of the air, and we need adequate (but not too much) ventilation in the structure before deploying a dehumidifier. Common obstacles include leaky structures, venting exhaust air into the attic, and constantly running exhaust ventilation (like range hoods or bath fans). Bryan's preferred setup is to have a dedicated dehumidifier just for the sealed attic, though you can make the HVAC do this if you plan it out during the construction phase. If you bring in outdoor air, you should plan to bring it in through the dehumidifier, but that can interfere with attic dehumidification. You can either use two dehumidifiers or use powered dampers to dehumidify either the attic or house at different times. You can consult the expertise of groups like the HVAC Grapevine and manufacturers like Santa Fe Dehumidifiers. HVAC School also has a range of dehumidifier topics; you can search for videos, podcasts, and tech tips on the topic in the app.   Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.  Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android.   Subscribe to our YouTube channel.  Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android.

    9 min
  2. Leak Detection - Spidey Sense

    5 DAYS AGO

    Leak Detection - Spidey Sense

    In this episode of the Spidey Sense series, Bryan and Bert dive deep into the art of refrigerant leak detection, sharing their wealth of experience and practical tips for HVAC technicians. They emphasize the importance of using one's senses and observation skills before relying solely on electronic tools, highlighting how this "Spidey Sense" approach is a hallmark of senior-level expertise in the field. Visual and tactile cues, including warm suction lines, frosted components, and signs of oil, are vital. Different symptoms point to specific kinds of leaks and various scenarios, so you need to understand the behavior of the system.  Bryan and Bert also discuss the strategic application of soap bubbles, electronic leak detectors, and nitrogen for pressurization. Each method has limitations, and you'll need to know when to employ them for maximum effectiveness. When detecting leaks, consider recent home renovations or equipment vibrations that might contribute to leaks. Topics covered in the podcast include: Visual and tactile cues for identifying potential refrigerant leaks The debate on frosted lines as indicators of low refrigerant charge Proper use of electronic leak detectors and their limitations Strategic application of soap bubbles in leak detection The importance of checking common leak locations (e.g., flare fittings, evaporator coils) Considerations for leak detection in newly installed or recently serviced systems The role of nitrogen in leak detection for systems with very low refrigerant charge Estimating the severity of a leak based on system pressure and charge level The pros and cons of isolation tests for line set leaks Techniques for detecting very small, slow leaks that might not show up in pressure tests The potential use of ultrasonic leak detection tools The importance of thorough inspection and patience in the leak detection process   Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.  Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android.   Subscribe to our YouTube channel.  Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android.

    42 min
  3. Q&A - Why Didn't You Notice it Last Time? - Short #210

    17 SEPT

    Q&A - Why Didn't You Notice it Last Time? - Short #210

    In this short Q&A podcast episode, Bryan answers Edward's question about how to deal with customers who ask, "Why didn't you notice it last time?" There isn't an easy answer to that question. The truth is that air conditioning and home health and comfort issues are complicated, and it's entirely possible that an issue simply went unnoticed (or the symptoms simply weren't apparent yet). The HVAC industry doesn't have a standard slate of tests that can give a comprehensive view of everything that's wrong with a system all at once. It's similar to how a doctor can offer a second opinion that differs from the first doctor you saw.  You have to determine whether the customer wants to place blame or solve the problem when they ask, "Why didn't you notice it last time?" Sometimes, we need to dig deeper to find the root of the problem. We can offer advanced diagnostics and be honest about what that will entail (including pricing), though it's natural for customers to be apprehensive about being sold options. However, we don't want to avoid pursuing solutions either. There are ways to talk about previous sloppy or incomplete work without placing blame on another technician. The immediate problem is what requires attention, not the last person who worked on the system. Ask the customer to state their goals and the results they want to see, and you can forge a path ahead.   Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.  Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android.   Subscribe to our YouTube channel.  Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android.

    8 min
  4. Q&A - Vacuum Questions Answered

    12 SEPT

    Q&A - Vacuum Questions Answered

    div]:bg-bg-300 [&_pre]:-mr-4 md:[&_pre]:-mr-9"> _*]:min-w-0"> In this episode of the HVAC School podcast, host Bryan dives deep into the topic of vacuum in HVAC and refrigeration systems. He addresses two questions from social media about vacuum, expanding them into a comprehensive discussion of best practices, common issues, and techniques for effective vacuum procedures. Bryan starts by explaining where to ideally locate a vacuum pump when working on a refrigeration system. He emphasizes the importance of pulling from the largest volume locations possible, often at multi-position service valves on the compressor or wherever accessible ports are available. He notes that systems that have been in operation pose unique challenges due to refrigerant dissolved in the oil, which can significantly increase vacuum time. The podcast then covers the "one hose method" for pulling vacuum, detailing the process of using a single large hose connected to the suction side with the core removed, while placing the micron gauge on the liquid side. Bryan explains how this method can be highly effective for new systems but may take longer for systems that have been in operation. He also discusses the importance of valve quality. Key topics covered in the podcast include: Ideal vacuum pump location in refrigeration systems The "one hose method" for pulling vacuum Challenges of vacuuming systems that have been in operation Using heat and nitrogen to improve vacuum efficiency Importance of quality valves and tools in vacuum procedures Proper maintenance of vacuum pumps and micron gauges Dealing with refrigerant dissolved in oil during vacuum The science behind evaporation at the oil-vapor interface Tips for speeding up vacuum in difficult conditions Recommended resources for further learning about vacuum techniques   Get your copy of Review of Vacuum for Service Engineers at TruTech Tools HERE.  Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.  Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android.   Subscribe to our YouTube channel.  Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android.

    21 min
  5. Q&A - Drain Traps & Static - Short #209

    10 SEPT

    Q&A - Drain Traps & Static - Short #209

    In this short Q&A podcast episode, Bryan answers a question about drain traps and static pressure. This question was sent by Stephen with The Comfort Squad when he noticed an uptick in nuisance calls on retrofit systems that kept having their secondary drain pans filled. In negatively pressurized systems (i.e., straight-cool or heat pump units, not gas furnaces), air can pull water back into the drain line. The evaporator coil is under negative pressure because the blower is on top of the evaporator coil. The rule of thumb for trap depth is that it should be greater than or equal to twice the return static pressure (which is why a 1" deep trap is typical for systems with 0.5" return static pressure). However, return static can have some variation, and it's also not a great idea to use the TESP for this measurement because the return static could be greater than the supply. It makes most sense to account for the highest possible return static you will see. 1" is only sufficient if 0.5" return static pressure is the most you will see, so bigger is usually better in all cases. If you can install a 2" or 3" trap, you'll typically have your bases covered without having an excessive trap.    We also wrote a tech tip about this topic: https://hvacrschool.com/drain-trap-depth-and-negative-pressure/  Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.  Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android.   Subscribe to our YouTube channel.  Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android.

    6 min
  6. How Do You Ramp Up Your Team to Effectively Service and Support CO2 Applications?

    5 SEPT

    How Do You Ramp Up Your Team to Effectively Service and Support CO2 Applications?

    In this informative episode, Bryan Orr speaks with Andre Patenaude from Copeland about CO2 refrigeration systems. They dive deep into the unique characteristics and challenges of working with CO2 as a refrigerant, providing valuable insights for HVAC and refrigeration professionals looking to expand their knowledge in this growing field. Andre explains the reasons behind the increasing adoption of CO2 systems, including regulatory pressures and environmental benefits. He details the peculiarities of CO2 refrigerant, such as its high triple point and lower critical point, which create unique operating conditions not seen in traditional refrigerants. The conversation covers the concept of transcritical operation and how it affects system design and efficiency. The discussion then shifts to the infrastructure of CO2 systems, focusing on the transcritical booster architecture commonly used in supermarket applications. Andre breaks down the components and operation of these systems, highlighting key differences from traditional setups. He also touches on the latest innovations in compressor technology from Copeland, including new designs specifically engineered for CO2's high-pressure applications. Key topics covered in the podcast include: Reasons for adopting CO2 refrigeration systems Unique properties of CO2 as a refrigerant, including triple point and critical point Explanation of transcritical operation and its impact on system design Overview of transcritical booster system architecture Pressure zones and safety considerations in CO2 systems Innovations in compressor technology for CO2 applications High ambient mitigation strategies for improved efficiency Resources for contractors and technicians to learn about CO2 systems Upcoming developments in CO2 refrigeration technology Opportunities for contractors in the growing CO2 refrigeration market   Resources Copeland’s E360 Resource Hub NASRC's Natural Refrigerant Training Summit EPA GreenChill Resources & Reports Tech Tips What is “Cascade” Refrigeration? CO2 Booster Systems (Codenamed CO2 is Interesting and Weird) Podcast Episodes CO2 Introduction Podcast & Resources Intro to CO2 w/ Don Gillis Why CO2 Matters w/ Trevor Matthews 3 Flavors of CO2 w/ Rusty Walker Videos CO2 101 (with Don Gillis) CO2 Refrigeration Rack Overview   Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.  Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android.   Subscribe to our YouTube channel.  Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android.

    56 min
  7. Q&A - Condensating Vents - Short #208

    3 SEPT

    Q&A - Condensating Vents - Short #208

    In this short Q&A podcast episode, Bryan answers Kenton's question about how to stop vents from condensating, especially when sealing and insulation don't do the trick. When approaching a condensation problem, we have to consider the source of moisture and where the condensation is happening. Moisture that builds up on top of the vent comes from attics with a high dew point. (It's not because hot meets cold! Relative humidity and dew point are a lot more important, though hot air is able to hold more moisture.) Warm, moist air with a high dew point hits a colder surface when there is improper sealing and insulation where the duct attaches to the boot. People often attempt to solve condensation issues by adding insulation, which actually has the opposite effect because it reduces the surface temperature; condensation worsens. Some people also increase attic ventilation, but that may cause pressure imbalances that drive moist air into the conditioned space.  The best way to control attic conditions is to seal and then dehumidify the attic, though it is an expensive and time-consuming measure. Exhaust vents that end in the attic also add moisture to the attic. Sealing vents and other areas where attic air can seep into the space is another best practice, as is deploying a humidity control strategy. Reducing humidity can happen with a dehumidifier and proper sizing so that the HVAC equipment has long runtimes with a cold evaporator coil (achieved with lower system airflow).   Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.  Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android.   Subscribe to our YouTube channel.  Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android.

    13 min
  8. Residential & Rack Startup and Commissioning (Part 2)

    29 AUG

    Residential & Rack Startup and Commissioning (Part 2)

    In this episode, Bryan and Max discuss commercial supermarket startup and commissioning with comparisons to residential HVAC work. Max, who has transitioned from residential air conditioning to supermarket refrigeration, shares his insights on the unique challenges and requirements of this specialized field. The conversation begins by emphasizing the critical importance of safety in supermarket refrigeration work. Unlike residential jobs, technicians often work alone in potentially hazardous environments with high-voltage equipment and large quantities of refrigerant. Hearing protection is stressed as a crucial safety measure due to the extremely loud environments in motor rooms. Max then delves into the complexities of supermarket refrigeration systems, describing the various components involved, including parallel compressor racks, refrigerated cases, and multiple control systems. He highlights the need for adaptability and problem-solving skills, as technicians often encounter unique situations with limited documentation or manufacturer support. The discussion also covers the time-sensitive nature of the work, with many tasks needing to be completed overnight to minimize disruption to store operations. The podcast explores the multifaceted role of a supermarket refrigeration technician, touching on topics such as equipment decommissioning, pressure testing, electrical verification, and programming of control systems. Max emphasizes the importance of developing a comprehensive process and continuously refining it to improve efficiency and effectiveness in the field. Key topics covered in the podcast: Safety considerations in supermarket refrigeration work Components of commercial refrigeration systems (compressor racks, cases, controls) Time constraints and overnight work in supermarket settings Decommissioning old equipment and installing new systems Pressure testing and leak checking procedures Electrical verification and three-phase power considerations Programming and verifying control systems Defrost cycle setup and verification Communication protocols and building management systems Performance audits and client expectations Low ambient controls and regional differences in system requirements Leak detection and walk-in cooler maintenance The importance of developing and refining work processes Transition from residential HVAC to commercial refrigeration   Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.  Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android.   Subscribe to our YouTube channel.  Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android.

    39 min

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