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We are Holly & Leslie, the hosts of We Would Be Dead. A weekly true crime podcast that finds humanity in the darkness, humor in the history, and the devil in the details.

Above all else we recognize that if we had to walk a mile in any of the stories that we tell, we would be dead.

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We are Holly & Leslie, the hosts of We Would Be Dead. A weekly true crime podcast that finds humanity in the darkness, humor in the history, and the devil in the details.

Above all else we recognize that if we had to walk a mile in any of the stories that we tell, we would be dead.

    Case File TLDR (Amber Hagerman, AMBER alert)

    Case File TLDR (Amber Hagerman, AMBER alert)

    WEEKLY CONTENT IS BACK!
    Ever wish you knew more about the cases the rest of the world has analyzed without you? Often, when cases are fully developed and researched, there's just too much information to take in at once. It can be overwhelming! Don't worry, you've come to the right place.
    Welcome to Case File TLDR! Every other week we'll provide and quick and comprehensive catch up on cases that should be in your mental library but aren't, strange stories that made a huge but quick impact, or frequently used true crime terms and tropes you meant to look up but never got around to. You'll never have to nod along again.
    Have you ever wondered why it's called an AMBER alert? Have you just been pretending to know because it seems like everyone else already does? We got you. This is everything you need to know about the tragic disappearance turned unsolved murder of 9 year old Amber Hagerman, the little girl who inspired a huge change. 
     
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    https://www.missingkids.org/blog/2021/still-searching-for-ambers-killer
    https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/remembering-amber-hagerman-27-years-later/
    https://allthatsinteresting.com/amber-hagerman
    https://amberalert.ojp.gov/
     
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    • 37 min
    A Family Affair (Steven and Katie Pladl)

    A Family Affair (Steven and Katie Pladl)

    On April 12, 2018, 43 year old Steven Walter Pladl, murdered his father in law Tony, His infant son Bennet and his 20 year old wife Katie, then called her mother, told her to notify the police, and turned the gun on himself. Days prior to this horrific event  Stephen's wife Katie had ended their brief marriage by way of a phone call and Stephen, it seemed had become so distraught he did the unthinkable. We've seen this sort
    of nightmarish scenario before, haven't we? "If I can't have you, no one can". This case however, is a bit different. Just a short time before their tele-breakup, Stephen and his wife stood trial in a court of law, and were ordered apart by a judge. You see, 20 year old Katie wasn't just Stephen's his wife, she was also his daughter. 
     
    murdered his biological daughter, 20-year-old Katie Rose Fusco Pladl, with whom he had been engaged in an incestuous relationship, and her adoptive father, 56-year-old Anthony Charles Fusco, in New Milford, Connecticut. He later committed suicide in Dover, New York. He had murdered his and Katie's seven-month-old child, Bennett Kieron Pladl, the day prior in Knightdale.
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    https://dailyvoice.com/new-york/mountpleasant/obituaries/incest-case-arrangements-announced-for-three-murdered-family-members/735725/
     
    https://nypost.com/2018/05/01/mom-of-incest-murder-suicide-victim-describes-fathers-abuse/
     
    https://www.mamamia.com.au/genetic-sexual-attraction-personal-story/
     
    https://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/news/local/2018/04/23/biological-mother-katie-pladl-fusco-steven-pladl-incest-deaths/541402002/
     
     
     
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    • 1 hr 35 min
    Cover Girl Interrupted (The Ivory Soap Murders)

    Cover Girl Interrupted (The Ivory Soap Murders)

    In 1937 Pin up party girl Veronica Gedeon was a fixture in the pages of many true crime magazines. Her blond hair, bright eyes and slender figure were sure to sell more copies of whatever pulp periodical cover she graced on any given week that all of its competitors combined. So, when Veronica was discovered nude and strangled to death on the bed of her New York apartment that Easter evening, the whole city began to buzz with speculation. The killer had not only killed Veronica, they also brutally murdered her mother and their young border, but things were not exactly as they seemed.
    This week we take a closer look at this rollercoaster ride, crime of the century case that time has forgotten. Sometimes called "the case of the Mad Potter" or "The Beekman Hill Maniac Murders", the crimes of a strange young man named Robert George Irwin are hard to explain and even harder to forget. This week's case is the stuff of film noir dreams and beautiful young girl's nightmares. 
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    https://tampabay.newspapers.com/article/cumberland-evening-times/136771383/?locale=en-US
     
    https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-bridgeport-telegram-veronica-gedeon/3747708/
     
    https://casetext.com/case/people-v-irwin-22
     
    https://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/2016/12/05/who-killed-this-pretty-east-side-model-in-1937/
     
     
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    • 1 hr 43 min
    Pick A Crime (St. Patrick's Day Live Campfire 2024)

    Pick A Crime (St. Patrick's Day Live Campfire 2024)

    Welcome to our live game of Irish True Crime Roulette! This year's St. Patrick's Day livestream featured 3 classic Irish true crime stories from the book Foster's Book of Irish Murder. All three were picked at random, live, with the help of our fiends, and as usual feature some lively color commentary. We are happy to bring you "One Sock" read by Leslie, "The Cake of Death" read by fiend favorite John Rattacasa, and "The Axe Woman of Fedamore" read by Holly. Enjoy fiends, Toast!
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    Foster's Book of Irish Murder
     
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    • 1 hr 28 min
    The Short Straw (The Horrible Fate of the Francis Spaight)

    The Short Straw (The Horrible Fate of the Francis Spaight)

    It's our Irish episode fiends, and boy did we find an eerie tale this year!
    Just before Christmas in 1835 the British merchant ship, The Angerona, was on it's way from Newfoundland to Teignmouth when the captain spotted something strange. Off in the distance he saw a large vessel, ravaged by a storm, with no masts. Normally this would have signified a total loss of life, but as they got closer the captain saw something that would be burned into his brain for the rest of his life. There were men on the deck of this ruined ship, and they were jumping up and down, waving dismembered human arms and legs. The ship was called The Francis Spaight, it was an Irish transport ship from Limerick. The men aboard had been stranded for 20 days without food or water in freezing tempretures. Of the 18 original crew members, just 11 had survived... and 4 had fallen victim to an ancient tradition called: The Custom of the Sea.
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    http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Clare/1836/JAN.html
    https://www.rte.ie/radio/doconone/1314029-the-custom-of-the-sea
    https://www.rte.ie/culture/2022/0812/1315357-irish-cannibals-on-the-high-seas-documentary-on-one/
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/71608919
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Spaight-24
     
     
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    • 1 hr 56 min
    The Big Sleepover (The Suspicious Death of Tamla Horsford)

    The Big Sleepover (The Suspicious Death of Tamla Horsford)

    On November 3rd 2018, 40 year old Tamla Horsford of Cumming Georgia,  attended a birthday party with nine fellow football moms. The party took place at Jeanne Meyers' Spacious 6 bedroom home in a well to do local subdivision called Quail Hollow. Since there would be alcohol at the party, everyone was invited to stay the night, everyone meaning nine white women and Tamla. 
    The next morning the Forsyth County Sherrif’s office would respond to a 911 call from Jeanne Meyers at her home. She awoke that morning to find Tamla lying dead in the grass below the second floor balcony in her back yard. 
    No lifesaving measures were taken, no ambulance was sent, and no immediate investigation of the scene occurred. According to the the Forsyth County Sheriff's office, a horrible accident occurred and that was that. When faced with any good evidence that this was the truth, Tamla's family, on the other hand, was not so sure.  This case is filled with conflicting information, corrupt officials, and a stunning lack of competence all of which has left us and many others wondering: Would any of this have happened if Tamla had been white?
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    TamlaHorsford.net
    ^ Michelle's Graves's Website. She has done a ton of comprehensive work but please proceed with caution, there are unobstructed sensitive photos on this page.
    Rolling Stone 1
    Rolling Stone 2
    Local News Article
    Letter from the Horsford's Attorney
    Justice For Tamla Facebook page
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    • 2 hrs 17 min

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