not ARTIFICIALLY Sweetened - Unfiltered reflections on all thing's diabetes Stan Landau and Michael Brown

Welcome back for Episode 58 of 'not ARTIFICIALLY Sweetened', THE podcast packed with unfiltered reflections on all thing’s diabetes!

Find us on Spotify, Pocket Casts, Apple Podcasts, or the LiSTN Audio App!

This Episode is brought to you in support of diabetes awareness and care by Diabetic Accessories (‘Making Diabetes Beautiful!’), and the new range of CDE MiWell™ (https://cdeonline.co.za/miwell/) Reduced Calorie products.

Whether you're living with diabetes, a health professional that facilitates diabetes care, or supporting someone with diabetes, you're in the right place! Join our journey, as we grow together in understanding, insight, and self-awareness to change lives for the better. Our deliberations are always honest, challenging and thought provoking. Nothing is off the table as we meet real people, discuss their real issues and stories, and together discover real answers to many vexing practical issues in diabetes and its care.

Stan opens the show talking about the science behind ‘very low-calorie diets’, and his clinical insights into this novel approach used to address many of the issues seen in the management of type 2 diabetes, and Michael talks about life journeys of growing competence from novice to master .

‘Creative Competence’ – adding your authentic creativity to your technical mastery…

Warren Vernon Driscoll, the inspirational lead in the international stage show, Queen: It’s a Kinda Magic (https://www.facebook.com/queenitsakindamagic/), joins us as our studio guest this week from Calgary in Canada . As an epitome of ‘Creative Competence’, Warren reflects on his:


Lifelong passion for music in a supportive musical family
View that a career in music IS a ‘real’ job, but you have to give it everything you have got!
Tenure at the Drakensberg Boys Choir School and responding to his ‘calling’
Challenging schedule as part of the cast Queen: It’s a Kinda Magic
Authenticity as an artist, and ‘paying homage to’ vs ‘trying to become’ Freddie Mercury
Life with diabetes and his resultant thoughts, emotions and career challenges around the condition
Diabetes technology and his stage performances as a ‘badge of hope’ for others with diabetes
Management of diabetes on stage
On-tour and off-tour life routines and challenges
Thoughts on AI in musical performance and in people’s search for nostalgic experiences
Upcoming schedule including a fascinating gig in Russia

Original music by Warren Vernon Driscoll on this Episode


Message to Myself (10' 54")
Think (40' 56")

From the 2018 EP, Better With Time.

Used with the permission of the artist.

Advocacy message

This week, Gabriela Richter invites fellow advocates to join her in supporting people with newly diagnosed diabetes.

We want to hear from you!

If you have any questions, suggestions, comments or contributions for future episodes, or if you'd like to advertise on this podcast, email us @ Podcast@CDEDiabetes.co.za

For health professionals working in diabetes

The 6-Module, 23 CPD point CDE Academy Very Low-Calorie Diet Course for Healthcare Professionals can help you assist your clients with excess adiposity and type 2 diabetes to improve their cardiometabolic risk profile, reduce their chronic medication burden, doses and costs and possibly achieve remission of their diabetes. More information and registration @ https://academy.cdeonline.co.za/vlcd-course/

Learna/University of South Wales offer a one-year, online, part-time, distance learning Postgraduate Diploma in Diabetes Care. Sign up for a second year to earn an MSc in Diabetes. Gain a competitive edge and enhance your client care! Register @ https://my.learna.ac.uk/l/diabetes-ambassador-cde


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Let’s dive into Episode 57 of 'not ARTIFICIALLY Sweetened', THE podcast packed with unfiltered reflections on all things diabetes!

Find us on Spotify, Pocket Casts, Apple Podcasts, or the LiSTN Audio App!

This Episode is brought to you in support of diabetes awareness and care by the CDE Online Pharmacy (https://cdeonline.co.za/), the online store of choice for people living with diabetes, and the new range of CDE MiWell™ (https://cdeonline.co.za/miwell/) Reduced Calorie products.

Whether you're living with diabetes, a health professional that facilitates diabetes care, or supporting someone with diabetes, you're in the right place! Join our journey, as we grow together in understanding, insight, and self-awareness to change lives for the better. Our deliberations are always honest, challenging and thought provoking. Nothing is off the table as we meet real people, discuss their real issues and stories, and together discover real answers to many vexing practical issues in diabetes and its care.

Michael starts by voicing his frustrations with the ‘dumbing down’ of diabetes and its care. He explains his thoughts on ameliorating ‘The Egregious Eleven’ problem pathways in type 2 diabetes with more risk-mitigating diabetes insights from self-defence and military strategy. Stan talks about the difference between insulin supplementation and insulin replacement.

“Retired, but not tired!” – living a ‘Blue Zone’ life

Our studio guest this week is Lungi Siqebengu, a retired IT consultant in immovable properties, and current photographer, drone pilot, wood worker and active church, and community member. Giving the ‘Energiser bunny’ a run for its money, Lungi enthusiastically shares his:


Family history with diabetes
Diagnosis of diabetes following an induced coma for the treatment of COVID-19
Journey to retard the effects of diabetes – he chose the lifestyle option
Life-changing knee replacement surgery as an ‘enabler’ to improve his mobility
Management of diabetes by eating healthier, assisted by his family
Health-supporting involvement with his church and the men’s ministry and role-modelling healthy behaviours
Mission to immerse himself with diabetes knowledge and to be more physically active
Spiritual thoughts and insights around his diagnosis
Desire to engage in diabetes advocacy
Efforts to reduce the impact of his diabetes on his wife and marriage.

Advocacy message

This week, Shiara Pillay talks about kids and diabetes camps!

We want to hear from you!

If you have any questions, suggestions, comments or contributions for future episodes, or if you'd like to advertise on this podcast, email us @ Podcast@CDEDiabetes.co.za

For health professionals working in diabetes

The 6-Module, 23 CPD point CDE Academy Very Low-Calorie Diet Course for Healthcare Professionals can help you assist your clients with excess adiposity and type 2 diabetes to improve their cardiometabolic risk profile, reduce their chronic medication burden, doses and costs and possibly achieve remission of their diabetes. More information and registration @ https://academy.cdeonline.co.za/vlcd-course/

Learna/University of South Wales offer a one-year, online, part-time, distance learning Postgraduate Diploma in Diabetes Care. Sign up for a second year to earn an MSc in Diabetes. Gain a competitive edge and enhance your client care! Register @ https://my.learna.ac.uk/l/diabetes-ambassador-cde


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We’re back with Episode 56 of 'not ARTIFICIALLY Sweetened', THE podcast packed with unfiltered reflections on all things diabetes!

We're easy to find on Spotify, Pocket Casts, Apple Podcasts or the LiSTN Audio App!

This Episode is brought to you in support of diabetes awareness and care by the CDE Online Pharmacy (https://cdeonline.co.za/), the online store of choice for people living with diabetes, and the new range of CDE MiWell™ (https://cdeonline.co.za/miwell/) Reduced Calorie products.

Whether you're living with diabetes, a health professional that facilitates diabetes care, or close to someone with diabetes, you're in the right place! Join our journey, as we grow together in understanding, insight, and self-awareness to change lives for the better. Our deliberations are always honest, challenging and thought provoking. Nothing is off the table as we meet real people, discuss their real issues and stories, and together discover real answers to many vexing practical issues in diabetes and its care.

With Stan off sick this week, Michael dives straight into the show with co-opted co-host and studio guest Pitso Molemane, well known as a South African radio personality, journalist and Diabetes Survivor, Warrior and Activist who has lived with type 1 diabetes for four decades. We first met Pitso in Episode 48 and he graciously and at short notice agreed to co-pilot this week’s show.

Together Michael and Pitso ‘take the pulse’ of the lived experience of diabetes at a ‘grassroots’ level and explore concepts as diverse as erectile dysfunction, and thieving holders of the public purse:


Basic important principles of the self-management of diabetes and other chronic health conditions
Why many people do not admit to having diabetes or pay enough attention to their self-care
Community, school and employer support is there if you share your diabetes status
Common myths around diabetes
Harnessing our brain power
Visualising and using blood glucose levels to maintain body health and function
Challenges accessing health services and attaining optimum wellness and health in South Africa
Accepting your chronic condition to give yourself power and energy to change your life and health
Following Pitso across various social and other media channels

Advocacy message

This week, Etienne Clarence, the husband of a person living with type 1 diabetes, encourages all advocates to participate in the SA Diabetes Advocacy Advocacy Course!

We want to hear from you!

If you have any questions, suggestions, comments or contributions for future episodes, or if you'd like to advertise on this podcast, email us @ Podcast@CDEDiabetes.co.za

For health professionals working in diabetes

The 6-Module, 23 CPD point CDE Academy Very Low-Calorie Diet Course for Healthcare Professionals can help you assist your clients with excess adiposity and type 2 diabetes to improve their cardiometabolic risk profile, reduce their chronic medication burden, doses and costs and possibly achieve remission of their diabetes. More information and registration @ https://academy.cdeonline.co.za/vlcd-course/

Learna/University of South Wales offer a one-year, online, part-time, distance learning Postgraduate Diploma in Diabetes Care. Sign up for a second year to earn an MSc in Diabetes. Gain a competitive edge and enhance your client care! Register @ https://my.learna.ac.uk/l/diabetes-ambassador-cde


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Catch Episode 55 of 'not ARTIFICIALLY Sweetened', THE podcast packed with unfiltered reflections on all things diabetes!

We're easy to find. We're on Spotify, Pocket Casts, Apple Podcasts or the LiSTN Audio App!

This Episode is brought to you in support of diabetes awareness and care by the CDE Online Pharmacy (https://cdeonline.co.za/), the online store of choice for people living with diabetes, and the new range of CDE MiWell™ (https://cdeonline.co.za/miwell/) Reduced Calorie products.

Whether you're living with diabetes or a health professional that facilitates diabetes care, you're in the right place! Join our journey, as we grow together in understanding, insight, and self-awareness to change lives for the better. Our deliberations are always honest, challenging and thought provoking. Nothing is off the table as we meet real people, discuss their real issues and stories, and together discover real answers to many vexing practical issues in diabetes and its care.

Advocacy message

The ‘Glucose Glitch’, Lurina Fourie, encourages diabetes advocates by reminding all that your advocacy efforts matter!

Michael leads with a clinical advance in the science of ‘AGEs’ and uses this to contrast how many countries are advancing in diabetes care, and how in South Africa, the speciality of diabetes is dying from neglect, while the population at large suffers. Stan counters the population risks posed by unmanaged diabetes with the fact that people well managed in the CDE environment have relatively little to fear.

Our studio guest this week is is married father of two, Mark Langley – with an MSc in Property Studies, he is well qualified for his work in the property industry.

Apart from this, Mark is on a journey to discover more about how to live comfortably with two burdensome chronic health conditions, and not be boring or annoying doing it! In this momentous Episode characterised by deep self-awareness and brutal honesty, Mark shares some vital motivations, life skills attitudes and insights for others in a similar situation…


His ‘deserved’ development of type 2 diabetes
How, being motivated by his family responsibilities and desire to live life to the full, Mark responded to his ‘wake-up call’ and changed his lifestyle (and it shows in how he looks!)
How Mark’s dad and grandmother lived long and healthy lives despite having diabetes
How a friend with terminal cancer encouraged Mark to go for a colonoscopy and his subsequent diagnosis of coeliac disease, a relatively common condition characterised by non-specific symptoms and prone to missed diagnosis
Trying to understand and cope with the lifestyle restrictions and changes imposed on Mark by having coeliac disease and 'getting on with' balancing that and diabetes management
‘Eating clean’ and feeling so much better on a gluten-free diet – the importance of a registered dietician for guidance
The challenges of and tips for eating out (and at home) with coeliac disease
Encouragement to screen for coeliac disease for any suspicious gut symptoms.

We want to hear from you!

If you have any questions, suggestions, comments or contributions for future episodes, or if you'd like to advertise on this podcast, email us @ Podcast@CDEDiabetes.co.za

For health professionals working in diabetes

The 6-Module, 23 CPD point CDE Academy Very Low-Calorie Diet Course for Healthcare Professionals can help you assist your clients with excess adiposity and type 2 diabetes to improve their cardiometabolic risk profile, reduce their chronic medication burden, doses and costs and possibly achieve remission of their diabetes. More information and registration @ https://academy.cdeonline.co.za/vlcd-course/

Learna/University of South Wales offer a one-year, online, part-time, distance learning Postgraduate Diploma in Diabetes Care. Sign up for a second year to earn an MSc in Diabetes. Gain a competitive edge and enhance your client care! Register @

We’re back with Episode 54 of 'not ARTIFICIALLY Sweetened', THE podcast packed with unfiltered reflections on all things diabetes!

We're easy to find. Catch us on Spotify, Pocket Casts, Apple Podcasts or the LiSTN Audio App!

This Episode is brought to you in support of diabetes awareness and care by the CDE Online Pharmacy (https://cdeonline.co.za/), the online store of choice for people living with diabetes, and the new range of CDE MiWell™ (https://cdeonline.co.za/miwell/) Reduced Calorie products.

Whether you're living with diabetes or a health professional that facilitates diabetes care, you're in the right place! Join our journey, as we grow together in understanding, insight, and self-awareness to change lives for the better. Our deliberations are always honest, challenging and thought provoking. Nothing is off the table as we meet real people, discuss their real issues and stories, and together discover real answers to many vexing practical issues in diabetes and its care.

Stan and Michael start by commenting on the common and possibly dangerous clinical issue of yearly changes in medical funder formularies and how this can negatively affect care continuity for people with diabetes.

Our studio guest this week is Andrew Heilbrunn, well known in professional diabetes circles as a doyen of the profession of biokinetics and the application of this discipline to the team-based management of diabetes. Since qualifying with an honours degree in Human Movement Sciences from Wits University and an honours degree in Biokinetics from the University of Pretoria, Andrew Heilbrunn worked for nearly 30 years as the Head Biokineticist at the Centre for Diabetes and Endocrinology, in Houghton, Johannesburg. He currently works in private practice. Andrew is well-known nationally and internationally for his expertise on the benefits of exercise in diabetes, cardiovascular disease, hypertension, obesity and osteoporosis. Andrew is also a devoted family man, an avid sportsman and sports fan and a thorough gentleman!

Together with Andrew we discuss:


How Andrew developed his career passion for diabetes and its treatment with physical activity
The role of biokinetics in a variety of people with health risks
The huge learning curves of kid’s diabetes camps and staffing the 24-hour CDE Emergency Hotline
Reducing sitting and physical activity vs exercise
The continuum of acceptance of the need for body movement by people with diabetes
The power of doctor referral for physical activity
Endurance vs resistance exercises and possible acute and longer-acting effects on glycaemia
Trial and error and experience in adapting to increased physical activity and competitive exercise
The power of resistance exercise and its combination with endurance exercise
Proprioception and balance in fall prevention
The blessing of biokinetics in South Africa

Advocacy message

This week, Lyn Sewell guides listeners to previous episodes of this podcast where we have addressed the common issue of people battling with neuropathic pain.

We want to hear from you!

If you have any questions, suggestions, comments or contributions for future episodes, or if you'd like to advertise on this podcast, email us @ Podcast@CDEDiabetes.co.za

For health professionals working in diabetes

The 6-Module, 23 CPD point CDE Academy Very Low-Calorie Diet Course for Healthcare Professionals can help you assist your clients with excess adiposity and type 2 diabetes to improve their cardiometabolic risk profile, reduce their chronic medication burden, doses and costs and possibly achieve remission of their diabetes. More information and registration @ https://academy.cdeonline.co.za/vlcd-course/

Learna/University of South Wales offer a one-year, online, part-time, distance learning Postgraduate Diploma in Diabetes Care. Sign up for a second year to earn an MSc in Diabetes. Gain a competitive edge and enhance your client care! Register @ https://my.learna.a

Please join us for Episode 53 of 'not ARTIFICIALLY Sweetened', THE podcast for both people living with diabetes and health professionals that facilitate diabetes care!

We are easy to find. Catch us on Spotify, Pocket Casts, Apple Podcasts or the LiSTN Audio App!

Once again, this Episode is brought to you in support of diabetes awareness and care by the CDE Online Pharmacy (https://cdeonline.co.za/), the online store of choice for people living with diabetes, and the new range of CDE MiWell™ (https://cdeonline.co.za/miwell/) Reduced Calorie products.

Whether you're living with diabetes or a health professional that facilitates diabetes care, you're in the right place! Join our journey, as we grow together in understanding, insight, and self-awareness to change lives for the better. Our deliberations are always honest, challenging and thought provoking. Nothing is off the table as we meet real people, discuss their real issues and stories, and together discover real answers to many vexing practical issues in diabetes and its care.

Stan and Michael kick-off by reminding our listeners of the effects of shift work on sleeping, eating, working and living with diabetes.

Advocacy message

This week, diabetes advocate Gabriela Richter, encourages health professionals to remember that everyone is unique and that their care needs are also unique.

We are joined in studio this week by Charlotte Meschede, a registered dietitian specialising in clinical nutrition and lifestyle education for diabetes and women's health. Charlotte recently joined the CDE Academy as a nutrition and education consultant - with her vast clinical, life, mothering and farming experience behind her, we are proud to have Charlotte as part of our team!

Charlotte shares her accumulated wisdom and reflects on:


The rise of diabetes and metabolic disorders in the late 1970s
Working as a young dietitian and farmer while focussing on motherhood
Food messaging and healthy eating in young children with diabetes
How to reduce parental anxiety around eating in kids
The invigorating changes in medical nutrition therapy over the years
Healthy eating as being just one of many contextual factors in managing diabetes
Our varied relationships with food
The importance of families eating healthy foods together
Facilitating healthy nutrition in older and possibly sicker adults
The principles behind ‘natural food grocery shopping with Charlotte’
‘Red flags’ for disordered eating or eating disorders
Eating well on a budget
Understanding food labelling
Take home pearl - we need to listen!

We want to hear from you! If you have any questions, suggestions, comments or contributions for future episodes, or if you'd like to advertise on this podcast, email us @ Podcast@CDEDiabetes.co.za

For health professionals working in diabetes

The 6-Module, 23 CPD point CDE Academy Very Low-Calorie Diet Course for Healthcare Professionals can help you assist your clients with excess adiposity and type 2 diabetes to improve their cardiometabolic risk profile, reduce their chronic medication burden, doses and costs and possibly achieve remission of their diabetes. More information and registration @ https://academy.cdeonline.co.za/vlcd-course/

Learna/University of South Wales offer a one-year, online, part-time, distance learning Postgraduate Diploma in Diabetes Care. Sign up for a second year to earn an MSc in Diabetes. Gain a competitive edge and enhance your client care! Register @ https://my.learna.ac.uk/l/diabetes-ambassador-cde


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