Copywriters Podcast

David Garfinkel
Copywriters Podcast

This podcast reveals the insider secrets of advertising copy that makes money. Insights into the highly profitable world of direct response marketing. Hosted by the World's Greatest Copywriting Coach, David Garfinkel.

  1. 25 NOV

    The 5 Stages Of Copywriting Awareness

    Ever wonder why some copywriters consistently crush it while others struggle to get conversions? This episode dives deep into the Five Stages of Copywriter Awareness—a transformative framework that shows the path from instinctive, mediocre copy to breakthrough results. If you’ve ever felt like your copy was missing something, this episode will pinpoint exactly where you’re stuck and how to advance. Starting at Stage One, you’ll learn why writing based solely on your own perspective often falls flat and how the shift to understanding your audience begins at Stage Two. But even surface-level audience insights won’t cut it if you want to create reliable winners. That’s why we explore the leap to Stage Three, where systematic research transforms your understanding of what your prospects truly want. In Stages Four and Five, the game changes. Here, it’s not just about gathering data but analyzing it for hidden patterns and emotional drivers that resonate deeply with your audience. You’ll discover how advanced copywriters use strategic testing and ethical swiping of structures—not words—to craft high-converting campaigns backed by data, not guesses. By the end of this episode, you’ll have a roadmap to move beyond your current plateau, sharpen your skills, and write copy that performs at the highest level. Whether you’re just starting out or looking to join the ranks of elite copywriters, this episode promises to give you the tools to elevate your craft and your results. Listen now to unlock the next stage of your copywriting journey.Download.

  2. 11 NOV

    Walking In Your Prospect’s Shoes

    Today we’re going to do another episode of “Just because it’s a story, it’s not a hero’s journey story.” What I mean by that is, many people have been misleading copywriters and salespeople for a while now. Saying, if you’re going to tell a story, it’s got to be a hero’s journey story. As you may know, in my book The Persuasion Story Code, I show 25 types of stories that are decidedly NOT hero’s journeys. That actually come from successful sales letters and other direct response copy. That you can adapt and use in your own copy. Today I want to focus in on stories where you walk a mile in your prospect’s shoes. These are from Chapter 4 and the shorthand name for these stories is “empathy stories.” They’re tremendously useful in gaining trust and connection with your prospects. Which is very important in these extremely low-trust times. Not only that. I’ve added a fifth kind of story which is not even in the book! So we’ve got a lot to cover today. Here’s what we cover in some useful detail: STORY TYPE 1: I KNOW YOUR PAIN This is an empathy story that describes your prospect’s pain or problem. STORY TYPE 2: I CAN SEE WHAT YOU SEE This is when you tell a story about a top of mind topic and how it affects your prospect. STORY TYPE 3: I FEEL YOUR PAIN What you’re doing here is revealing an experience of your own that will ring a bell with your prospect and their experience. STORY TYPE 4: THEY’RE INFLICTING PAIN ON YOU This is the opposite of a personal story involving you. It’s a social story where you are not personally involved. STORY TYPE 5: LOOK! SOMEONE ELSE IS IN PAIN! In this kind of story, the writer and the reader are actually distanced, as observers. The Persuasion Story Code: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CFD2KXNQ Download.

  3. 21 OCT

    Astonishing Discoveries About AI And Copywriting

    Four months ago, I was completely skeptical about AI and how it would ever fit into copywriting. I saw a post on LinkedIn by Brian Halpin, a copywriter working in Jason Parker’s agency. Brian talked about some unbelievable results, nearly one million in sales, that they had gotten with a VSL that was 80% written by AI. I’ve known Jason for more than 10 years, and Brian’s post piqued my interest. Jason agreed to come onto the podcast to talk about what he was doing. Nathan insisted we bring Jason on again to explain further, and after the second show, Nathan and I were so astonished by what he was saying that we both signed up for his Jason’s AI Copywriting Mastermind. I have found it was a risk worth taking. Because I have learned so much about what is possible, including for me, that I’ve completely changed my mind about AI and the future of copywriting. Now that we’ve had a lot more experience with results, we wanted to bring Jason back along with Scott Zetlan, another returning champion to the show, to bring you up to date on what we’ve learned about - What AI can do with copywriting - What AI can NOT do with copywriting - And most importantly, what AI CAN do that we NEVER thought it would do. For today’s special edition of the podcast, Nathan is going to lead the show and interview the three of us, so I’ll get a chance to talk about what I’ve learned. 4 points cover: 1. How much time it saves in creating copy and content 2. How we’re making the AI an extension of our brains – writing in our voice, creating an experience of writing like it’s the person who’s operating it 3. How long it takes to write a sales letter that converts, that would normally take a good copywriter 2-3 weeks to write 4. The dangers of “having a conversation” with AI to develop your hook, structure, idea, pitch 5. How much editing the AI’s output requires Link for more information about the Mastermind: AI Mastermind Download.

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This podcast reveals the insider secrets of advertising copy that makes money. Insights into the highly profitable world of direct response marketing. Hosted by the World's Greatest Copywriting Coach, David Garfinkel.

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