The fourth episode of Digital Tells: A BioCatch Podcast focuses on scams and social engineering. Why is there so much scam activity these days? Why are these scams so successful? And what, if anything, can financial institutions do to help protect themselves and their customer?
We open with a first-hand story of a brilliant social engineering, told by Coby Montoya. Tim Dalgleish discusses some of the Digital Tells that may indicate scam activity. And Ayelet Biger-Levin explains the layers of machine learning and analytics that converge to detect scams.
Transcript
Coby Montoya
Sometime in fall in 2019, I was working from home. Middle of the workday, I received this text message from it says it's from Capital One. It says, Hey, there's been a charge on your card at this Wal-Mart in California. Is that you? Yes or no? I said no. I responded back. And I immediately took out my Capital One card and looked at the back, called the phone number in the back to report this, you know, hey, this definitely was not me.
Peter Beardmore
The voice you were just hearing if from a gentleman I met recently. He’s a professional, in his late 30’s, lives in Arizona.. and the scenario he’s discussing not uncommon. It’s happened to me. It’s likely happened to you… but this story gets interesting….
Coby Montoya
So as I'm on hold, I receive additional texts. Says, OK, this wasn't you type one if you would like someone to call you instead of having to call and sit on hold. So again, middle of my workday, you know, this is much easier for me than having this on hold. So I said, Sure, have someone call me back a few minutes later, actually, probably less than a minute. I receive a call back and the phone number was, you know, same phone number for my Capital One card. And so I let them know, Hey, this was not me. You know, I identified myself. I authenticate myself, providing some basic information, and they say, OK, well, we can send you a replacement card. We'll deactivate this one. It's going to take about three to five business days to receive this card. It's actually a card I use very frequently. So I ask them, Hey, is there any way you could send this out sooner? They said, Well, we can. There's a fee that comes with that, but you know, you just experienced fraud. So we're going to go out and waive that fee for you, right? All right. Great. Good experience. And I appreciate it. And so they said before we send this replacement card out, however, when to need you to verify the address we're going to send it to. We're also going to send you a one time passcode just to ensure that it's really you were speaking with. And so I said, OK, you know, waited for the code. Thirty seconds later, I receive a one time passcode to my phone number. I read it back to them. They said, Great, thanks. We're going to go ahead and send this card out to you. And that was that. So I thought, All right. Minor annoyance. You know, no one likes fraud on their card, but it took me about 10 minutes, three songs. So I thought, All right, I'm good to go. Later that evening at home watching TV with my girlfriend and all of a sudden I received a notification from my Capital One mobile app that says there's been a charge at a Wal-Mart in California. So I'm based in Arizona, right? So this is definitely not me. It's kind of annoying that, you know, I was like, Hey, we just talked about this. I just resolved this with Capital One. Why are they approving charges on a card that has been reported as compromise? So I called CapitalOne ready to be, you know, just explain to me, Hey, guys, you shouldn't be approving these these charges. I reported this as a as. And as
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- Published19 October 2021 at 02:33 UTC
- Length19 min
- RatingClean