The MMT Podcast with Patricia Pino & Christian Reilly Patricia Pino & Christian Reilly

What every voter needs to know: Patricia and Christian talk to economist and author of “MMT: A Simple Guide to the Monetary System”, Dr Dirk Ehnts about the upcoming UK election and what’s missing from media coverage.
 
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LIVE EVENTS!
July 15-17 Inaugural UK Modern Monetary Theory Conference (Leeds, UK): https://mmtconference.uk/conference2024/ August 19th - 23rd Dirk Ehnts’ Maastricht University Modern Monetary Theory and European Macroeconomics course (application deadline 19th July): https://maastricht.dreamapply.com/courses/course/183-modern-monetary-theory-and-european-macroeconomics August  27-29 MMT Summer school (Poznan, Poland): https://fundacjalipinskiego.pl/wydarzenia/mmt-4th-summer-school-in-poznan/ August  30 - September 2nd, 4th European MMT Conference (Berlin, Germany) no details published yet, but updates will be here: https://www.mmtconference.eu/ Updates on worldwide screenings of the documentary “Finding The Money” can be found here: https://findingmoneyfilm.com/where-to-watch/ To arrange a screening of “Finding The Money”, apply here: https://findingmoneyfilm.com/host-a-screening/  
STUDY THE ECONOMICS OF SUSTAINABILITY!
Details of Modern Money Lab’s online graduate, postgraduate and standalone courses in economics are here: https://modernmoneylab.org.au/  
 
Relevant to this episode:
“MMT: A Simple Guide to the Monetary System” by Dirk Ehnts: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Modern-Money-Theory-Professional-Organizations/dp/3031535367/ For more on how commercial banks fit into the credit creation system, listen to episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62603318 and episode 43 - Sam Levey: Understanding Endogenous Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/35073683 For more on the consensus among MMT economists on a permanent Zero Interest Rate Policy (ZIRP) for interbank lending, listen to Episode 144 - Warren Mosler: The Natural Rate Of Interest Is Zero: https://www.patreon.com/posts/71966513 Explainer on how central banks achieve their target interest rate via a “corridor” or “floor” system: https://www.rba.gov.au/education/resources/teacher-updates/bridging-the-textbook-gaps-on-how-the-rba-implements-monetary-policy/?ref=aussienomics.com Video explainer of the above: https://youtu.be/eTNUh8NW7QI?si=eqfAukidQyel6Sl_ Recent update on the Reserve Bank of Australia’s interest-rate targeting regime: https://www.rba.gov.au/speeches/2024/sp-ag-2024-04-02.html  
For an intro to MMT:
Our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 Episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62603318  
Quick MMT reads:
Warren’s Mosler’s MMT white paper: http://moslereconomics.com/mmt-white-paper/ Steven Hail’s quick MMT explainer: https://theconversation.com/explainer-what-is-modern-monetary-theory-72095 Quick explanation of government debt and deficit: “Some Numbers Are Big. Let Me Help You Get Over It”: https://christreilly.com/2020/02/17/some-numbers-are-big-let-me-help-you-get-over-it/  
 
For a short, non-technical, free ebook explaining MMT, download Warren Mosler’s “7 Deadly Innocent Frauds Of Economic Policy” here: http://moslereconomics.com/wp-content/powerpoints/7DIF.pdf
 
 
Episodes on monetary operations: 
Episode 20 - Warren Mosler: The MMT Money Story (part 1): https://www.patreon.com/posts/28004824 Episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62603318 Episode 13 - Steven Hail: Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Banking, But Were Afraid To Ask: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41790887 Episode 43

Part 2: Christian talks to Dr Phil Armstrong about his recent paper: “History and origin of money in MMT and Austrian Economics: The difference methodology makes?”
 
Part 1: https://www.patreon.com/posts/102761654?pr=true
 
Full conversation available here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/95846517?pr=true
 
Please help sustain this podcast!
Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast
 
 
All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643
 
All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767
 
 
LIVE EVENTS!
July 15-17 Inaugural UK Modern Monetary Theory Conference (Leeds, UK): https://mmtconference.uk/conference2024/ August 19th - 23rd Dirk Ehnts’ Maastricht University Modern Monetary Theory and European Macroeconomics course (application deadline 19th July): https://maastricht.dreamapply.com/courses/course/183-modern-monetary-theory-and-european-macroeconomics August  27-29 MMT Summer school (Poznan, Poland): https://fundacjalipinskiego.pl/wydarzenia/mmt-4th-summer-school-in-poznan/ August  30 - September 2nd, 4th European MMT Conference (Berlin, Germany) no details published yet, but updates will be here: https://www.pufendorf-gesellschaft.org/ Updates on worldwide screenings of the documentary “Finding The Money” can be found here: https://findingmoneyfilm.com/where-to-watch/ To arrange a screening of “Finding The Money”, apply here: https://findingmoneyfilm.com/host-a-screening/  
STUDY THE ECONOMICS OF SUSTAINABILITY!
Details of Modern Money Lab’s online graduate, postgraduate and standalone courses in economics are here: https://modernmoneylab.org.au/  
 
Relevant to this episode:
“History and origin of money in MMT and Austrian Economics: The difference methodology makes?” by Phil Armstrong: http://www.paecon.net/PAEReview/issue105/Armstrong105.pdf “Can Heterodox Economics Make a Difference?” by Phil Armstrong: https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/can-heterodox-economics-make-a-difference-9781800370883.html Phil is co-author of “Modern Monetary Theory - Key Insights, Leading Thinkers” - order here: https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/modern-monetary-theory-9781802208085.html Our episode with Richard Tye on the evolution of the BoE “The Bank of England - The Prequel”: https://pileusmmt.libsyn.com/167-richard-tye-the-bank-of-england-the-prequel Introduction to ergodicity: https://taylorpearson.me/ergodicity/  
For an intro to MMT:
Our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 Episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62603318  
Quick MMT reads:
Warren’s Mosler’s MMT white paper: http://moslereconomics.com/mmt-white-paper/ Steven Hail’s quick MMT explainer: https://theconversation.com/explainer-what-is-modern-monetary-theory-72095 Quick explanation of government debt and deficit: “Some Numbers Are Big. Let Me Help You Get Over It”: https://christreilly.com/2020/02/17/some-numbers-are-big-let-me-help-you-get-over-it/  
 
For a short, non-technical, free ebook explaining MMT, download Warren Mosler’s “7 Deadly Innocent Frauds Of Economic Policy” here: http://moslereconomics.com/wp-content/powerpoints/7DIF.pdf
 
 
Episodes on monetary operations:
Episode 20 - Warren Mosler: The MMT Money Story (part 1): https://www.patreon.com/posts/28004824 Episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62603318 Episode 13 - Steven Hail: Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Banking, But Were Afraid To Ask: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41790887 Episode 43 - Sam Levey: Understanding Endogenous Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/35073683 Episode 84 - Andrew Berkeley, Richard Tye & Neil Wilson: An Accounting Model Of The UK Exchequer (Part 1): https://www.patreon.com/posts/46352183 Episode 86 - Andrew Berkeley, Richard Tye & Neil Wilson

Part 1: Christian talks to Dr Phil Armstrong about his recent paper: “History and origin of money in MMT and Austrian Economics: The difference methodology makes?”
 
Full conversation available here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/95846517?pr=true
 
Please help sustain this podcast!
Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast
 
 
All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643
 
All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767
 
 
LIVE EVENTS!
June 17-21 Bard College Summer Workshop in Public Finance and Economic Policy (online) applications close 30th April: https://edi.bard.edu/programs/osun-summer-workshop/ July 15-17 Inaugural UK Modern Monetary Theory Conference (Leeds, UK): https://gimms.org.uk/2024/03/04/final-call-for-papers-uk-mmt-conference-deadline-extended/ August 19th - 23rd Dirk Ehnts’ Maastricht University Modern Monetary Theory and European Macroeconomics course: https://maastricht.dreamapply.com/courses/course/183-modern-monetary-theory-and-european-macroeconomics August  27-29 MMT Summer school (Poznan, Poland) - no details published yet, but updates will be here: https://fundacjalipinskiego.pl/ August  30 - September 2nd, 4th European MMT Conference (Berlin, Germany) no details published yet, but updates will be here: https://www.pufendorf-gesellschaft.org/ Updates on worldwide screenings of the documentary “Finding The Money” can be found here: https://findingmoneyfilm.com/where-to-watch/ To arrange a screening of “Finding The Money”, apply here: https://findingmoneyfilm.com/host-a-screening/  
STUDY THE ECONOMICS OF SUSTAINABILITY!
Details of Modern Money Lab’s online graduate, postgraduate and standalone courses in economics are here: https://modernmoneylab.org.au/  
 
Relevant to this episode:
“History and origin of money in MMT and Austrian Economics: The difference methodology makes?” by Phil Armstrong: http://www.paecon.net/PAEReview/issue105/Armstrong105.pdf “Can Heterodox Economics Make a Difference?” by Phil Armstrong: https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/can-heterodox-economics-make-a-difference-9781800370883.html Phil is co-author of “Modern Monetary Theory - Key Insights, Leading Thinkers” - order here: https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/modern-monetary-theory-9781802208085.html Our episode with Richard Tye on the evolution of the BoE “The Bank of England - The Prequel”: https://pileusmmt.libsyn.com/167-richard-tye-the-bank-of-england-the-prequel Introduction to ergodicity: https://taylorpearson.me/ergodicity/  
For an intro to MMT:
Our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 Episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62603318  
Quick MMT reads:
Warren’s Mosler’s MMT white paper: http://moslereconomics.com/mmt-white-paper/ Steven Hail’s quick MMT explainer: https://theconversation.com/explainer-what-is-modern-monetary-theory-72095 Quick explanation of government debt and deficit: “Some Numbers Are Big. Let Me Help You Get Over It”: https://christreilly.com/2020/02/17/some-numbers-are-big-let-me-help-you-get-over-it/  
 
For a short, non-technical, free ebook explaining MMT, download Warren Mosler’s “7 Deadly Innocent Frauds Of Economic Policy” here: http://moslereconomics.com/wp-content/powerpoints/7DIF.pdf
 
 
Episodes on monetary operations:
Episode 20 - Warren Mosler: The MMT Money Story (part 1): https://www.patreon.com/posts/28004824 Episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62603318 Episode 13 - Steven Hail: Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Banking, But Were Afraid To Ask: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41790887 Episode 43 - Sam Levey: Understanding Endogenous Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/35073683 Episode 84 - Andrew Berkeley, Richard Tye & Neil Wilson: An Accou

Patricia and Christian talk to Dr Dirk Ehnts about the origins and nature of money, and what it means for tackling our various planetary emergencies.
 
 
Please help sustain this podcast!
Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast
 
 
All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643
 
All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767
 
 
LIVE EVENTS!
June 17-21 Bard College Sumer Workshop in Public Finance and Economic Policy (online) applications close 30th April: https://edi.bard.edu/programs/osun-summer-workshop/ July 15-17 Inaugural UK Modern Monetary Theory Conference (Leeds, UK): https://gimms.org.uk/2024/03/04/final-call-for-papers-uk-mmt-conference-deadline-extended/ August 19th - 23rd Dirk Ehnts’ Maastricht University Modern Monetary Theory and European Macroeconomics course: https://maastricht.dreamapply.com/courses/course/183-modern-monetary-theory-and-european-macroeconomics August  27-29 MMT Summer school (Poznan, Poland) - no details published yet, but updates will be here: https://fundacjalipinskiego.pl/ August  30 - September 2nd, 4th European MMT Conference (Berlin, Germany) no details published yet, but updates will be here: https://www.pufendorf-gesellschaft.org/ Updates on worldwide screenings of the documentary “Finding The Money” can be found here: https://findingmoneyfilm.com/where-to-watch/ To arrange a screening of “Finding The Money”, apply here: https://findingmoneyfilm.com/host-a-screening/  
 
STUDY THE ECONOMICS OF SUSTAINABILITY!
Details of Modern Money Lab’s online graduate, postgraduate and short, standalone courses in economics: https://modernmoneylab.org.au/  
 
Relevant to this episode:
“Modern Money Theory: A Simple Guide to the Monetary System (Professional Practice in Governance and Public Organizations)” by Dirk Ehnts (Released 5th May 2024): https://www.amazon.co.uk/Modern-Money-Theory-Professional-Organizations/dp/3031535367/ “Revisiting MMT, Sovereign Currencies and the Eurozone: A Reply to Marc Lavoie” by Dirk Ehnts & L. Randall Wray: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09538259.2023.2298448  
For an intro to MMT:
Our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 Episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62603318  
Quick MMT reads:
Warren’s Mosler’s MMT white paper: http://moslereconomics.com/mmt-white-paper/ Steven Hail’s quick MMT explainer: https://theconversation.com/explainer-what-is-modern-monetary-theory-72095 Quick explanation of government debt and deficit: “Some Numbers Are Big. Let Me Help You Get Over It”: https://christreilly.com/2020/02/17/some-numbers-are-big-let-me-help-you-get-over-it/  
 
For a short, non-technical, free ebook explaining MMT, download Warren Mosler’s “7 Deadly Innocent Frauds Of Economic Policy” here: http://moslereconomics.com/wp-content/powerpoints/7DIF.pdf
 
 
Episodes on monetary operations:
Episode 20 - Warren Mosler: The MMT Money Story (part 1): https://www.patreon.com/posts/28004824 Episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62603318 Episode 13 - Steven Hail: Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Banking, But Were Afraid To Ask: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41790887 Episode 43 - Sam Levey: Understanding Endogenous Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/35073683 Episode 84 - Andrew Berkeley, Richard Tye & Neil Wilson: An Accounting Model Of The UK Exchequer (Part 1): https://www.patreon.com/posts/46352183 Episode 86 - Andrew Berkeley, Richard Tye & Neil Wilson: An Accounting Model Of The UK Exchequer (Part 2): https://www.patreon.com/posts/46865929   
 
Episodes on inflation:
Episode 7: Steven Hail: Inflation, Price Shocks and Other Misunderstandings: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41780508 Episode 65 - Phil Armstrong: Under

STOP PRESS! FOR OUR AUSTRALIAN PALS - THE “FINDING THE MONEY” FILM TOUR STARTS THIS WEEK - AS IN 27TH OF FEBRUARY! MORE DETAILS HERE: https://modernmoneylab.org.au/events/film-tour/
Patricia and Christian talk to Professor Steven Hail about behavioural economics as a vital corrective to the unreal assumptions in mainstream models. Just as MMT models the monetary system as it actually is, Dr Hail talks about the importance of modelling people as they actually are.
 
Please help sustain this podcast!
Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast
 
 
All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643
 
All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767
 
 
MORE LIVE EVENTS!
Economics Of The Real World (Edinburgh, 21st March 2024): https://scotonomics.scot/live-events/ Scotonomics Festival Of Economics (Dundee, Scotland, 22-24th March 2024): https://scotonomics.scot/live-events/ Inaugural UK Modern Monetary Theory Conference (Leeds, July 15-17, 2024): https://gimms.org.uk/2024/02/23/final-call-for-papers-uk-mmt-conference/  
 
STUDY THE ECONOMICS OF SUSTAINABILITY!
Details of Modern Money Lab’s online graduate, postgraduate and standalone courses in economics are here: https://modernmoneylab.org.au/  
 
Relevant to this episode:
Professor L Randall Wray | The History and Nature of Money: https://youtu.be/7cLDFjTt4Bs?si=ZWjMc4t1IKuveKGj Professor Stephanie Kelton | Finding The Money: https://youtu.be/viddh5Dft1A?si=UxZci7jo-OYZCsNb  
For an intro to MMT:
Our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 Episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62603318  
Quick MMT reads:
Warren’s Mosler’s MMT white paper: http://moslereconomics.com/mmt-white-paper/ Steven Hail’s quick MMT explainer: https://theconversation.com/explainer-what-is-modern-monetary-theory-72095 Quick explanation of government debt and deficit: “Some Numbers Are Big. Let Me Help You Get Over It”: https://christreilly.com/2020/02/17/some-numbers-are-big-let-me-help-you-get-over-it/  
 
For a short, non-technical, free ebook explaining MMT, download Warren Mosler’s “7 Deadly Innocent Frauds Of Economic Policy” here: http://moslereconomics.com/wp-content/powerpoints/7DIF.pdf
 
 
Episodes on monetary operations:
Episode 20 - Warren Mosler: The MMT Money Story (part 1): https://www.patreon.com/posts/28004824 Episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62603318 Episode 13 - Steven Hail: Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Banking, But Were Afraid To Ask: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41790887 Episode 43 - Sam Levey: Understanding Endogenous Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/35073683 Episode 84 - Andrew Berkeley, Richard Tye & Neil Wilson: An Accounting Model Of The UK Exchequer (Part 1): https://www.patreon.com/posts/46352183 Episode 86 - Andrew Berkeley, Richard Tye & Neil Wilson: An Accounting Model Of The UK Exchequer (Part 2): https://www.patreon.com/posts/46865929   
 
Episodes on inflation:
Episode 7: Steven Hail: Inflation, Price Shocks and Other Misunderstandings: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41780508 Episode 65 - Phil Armstrong: Understanding Inflation: https://www.patreon.com/posts/40672678 Episode 104 - John T Harvey: Inflation, Stagflation & Healing The Nation: https://www.patreon.com/posts/52207835 Episode 123 - Warren Mosler: Understanding The Price Level And Inflation: https://www.patreon.com/posts/59856379 Episode 128 - L. Randall Wray & Yeva Nersisyan: What’s Causing Accelerating Inflation? Pandemic Or Policy Response?: https://www.patreon.com/posts/63776558  
Our Job Guarantee episodes:
Episode 4 - Fadhel Kaboub: What is the Job Guarantee?: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742701 Episode 47 - Pavlina Tcherneva: Building Resilience - The Case For A Job Guarantee

Christian talks to Mark Diesendorf, a physicist and professor in the Environment & Society Group at the University of New South Wales, about the economics underpinning his latest book, “The Path To An Ecologically Just Civilisation”.
 
Please help sustain this podcast!
Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast
 
 
All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643
 
All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767
 
 
LIVE EVENTS!
A presentation by Bill Mitchell (London, January 26): https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/gimms-event-professor-bill-mitchell-tickets-788915095287 Economics Of The Real World (Edinburgh, 21st March 2024): https://scotonomics.scot/live-events/ Scotonomics Festival Of Economics (Dundee, Scotland, 22-24th March 2024): https://scotonomics.scot/live-events/  
STUDY THE ECONOMICS OF SUSTAINABILITY!
Details of Modern Money Lab’s online graduate, postgraduate and standalone courses in economics are here: https://modernmoneylab.org.au/  
 
Relevant to this episode:
Buy “The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation: Technological, Socioeconomic and Political Change” by Mark Diesendorf & Rod Taylor:  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Path-Sustainable-Civilisation-Technological-Socioeconomic/dp/9819906628/ For more on the mechanics of the banking system, see “Episodes on monetary operations” (below) “The appallingly bad neoclassical economics of climate change” by Steve Keen: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/344034609_The_appallingly_bad_neoclassical_economics_of_climate_change  
For an intro to MMT:
Our first three episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742417 Episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62603318  
Quick MMT reads:
Warren’s Mosler’s MMT white paper: http://moslereconomics.com/mmt-white-paper/ Steven Hail’s quick MMT explainer: https://theconversation.com/explainer-what-is-modern-monetary-theory-72095 Quick explanation of government debt and deficit: “Some Numbers Are Big. Let Me Help You Get Over It”: https://christreilly.com/2020/02/17/some-numbers-are-big-let-me-help-you-get-over-it/  
 
For a short, non-technical, free ebook explaining MMT, download Warren Mosler’s “7 Deadly Innocent Frauds Of Economic Policy” here: http://moslereconomics.com/wp-content/powerpoints/7DIF.pdf
 
 
Episodes on monetary operations:
Episode 20 - Warren Mosler: The MMT Money Story (part 1): https://www.patreon.com/posts/28004824 Episode 126 - Dirk Ehnts: How Banks Create Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62603318 Episode 13 - Steven Hail: Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Banking, But Were Afraid To Ask: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41790887 Episode 43 - Sam Levey: Understanding Endogenous Money: https://www.patreon.com/posts/35073683 Episode 84 - Andrew Berkeley, Richard Tye & Neil Wilson: An Accounting Model Of The UK Exchequer (Part 1): https://www.patreon.com/posts/46352183 Episode 86 - Andrew Berkeley, Richard Tye & Neil Wilson: An Accounting Model Of The UK Exchequer (Part 2): https://www.patreon.com/posts/46865929   
 
Episodes on inflation:
Episode 7: Steven Hail: Inflation, Price Shocks and Other Misunderstandings: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41780508 Episode 65 - Phil Armstrong: Understanding Inflation: https://www.patreon.com/posts/40672678 Episode 104 - John T Harvey: Inflation, Stagflation & Healing The Nation: https://www.patreon.com/posts/52207835 Episode 123 - Warren Mosler: Understanding The Price Level And Inflation: https://www.patreon.com/posts/59856379 Episode 128 - L. Randall Wray & Yeva Nersisyan: What’s Causing Accelerating Inflation? Pandemic Or Policy Response?: https://www.patreon.com/posts/63776558  
Our Job Guarantee episodes:
Episode 4 - Fadhel Kaboub: What is the Job Guarantee?: https://www.patreon.com/posts/41742701 Episode 47