I'm suddenly thinking of an Umpapa Band (with Joan Armatrading)

This episode is for lady-things! Lady pilots, lady hobbies, lady wees. There's also some day-time TV chat, advent calendar pondering, and some explicit language... enjoy!

Plus, singer-songwriter Joan Armatrading discusses her upcoming album.

Our next book club pick has been announced! 'The Trouble with Goats and Sheep' by Joanna Cannon.

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Podcast Producer: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler

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