How I Started Podcast

Andrew Kappel

Tune in to hear how CEOs, Entrepreneurs, and Executives got started on their career journey.

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  1. Ep. 12: Todd Caponi - Journey from Sales Leader to Author, Speaker, and Sales Historian

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    Ep. 12: Todd Caponi - Journey from Sales Leader to Author, Speaker, and Sales Historian

    In this episode of How I Started, host Andrew Kappel interviews Todd Caponi, author of The Transparency Sale and founder of Sales Melon, a sales training and keynote business built around behavioral science and honesty in selling. Todd shares his unorthodox journey—from tech sales rep to SVP of Sales, to CRO of Chicago’s fastest-growing tech company, and eventually quitting to write a book after a surprising buyer behavior study changed his worldview. He explains how embracing transparency in sales not only feels better but actually improves conversion rates. Todd also dives into his rollercoaster entrepreneurial experience, why he says “no” often, how he builds self-discipline using quarterly board-style reports, and what inspired his passion project—the Sales History Museum. Takeaways: - A Northwestern University study on reviews convinced Todd that honesty converts better than perfection. - Revealing flaws in your product or service up front can build trust and speed up decision-making. - After resigning from a high-growth CRO role, Todd had to say no to “can’t-miss” opportunities to stay focused on writing his first book. - Building a business meant experimenting with consulting, training, and keynotes, and then doubling down on what worked best. - The entrepreneurial journey is bumpy, with highs and lows—Todd shares how Q1 2024 was his best quarter ever, followed by a slow Q2. - He conducts solo quarterly reviews (like board meetings) to analyze revenue, buyer demographics, win rates, and business health. - Learning to qualify leads better saved him time and improved his sales process. - Todd's new book,Four Levers Negotiating, aims to replace outdated haggling with a cards face-up, trust-based approach. - The Sales History Museum is a passion project highlighting lost wisdom from 19th- and 20th-century sales books and artifacts. - His mission: Make sales a trusted, admired profession again. Chapters: 00:00– Intro & Sales History Museum Welcome 00:57– From Tech Sales Rep to Leadership & Sales Trainer 03:28– Buyer Behavior Study That Changed Everything 06:10– Quitting the CRO Role to Write *The Transparency Sale* 08:21– Saying No: How Mentorship Helped Todd Focus 10:31– Turning Down Salesforce & Finding the Real Lesson 12:35– Building the Business: Experiments, Focus, and Lessons 15:02– Riding the Revenue Rollercoaster as an Entrepreneur 16:51– Doing Board-Style Reviews to Self-Audit the Business 20:02– Qualifying Leads & Understanding Buyer Roles 22:09– Writing *Four Levers Negotiating* & What It Teaches 26:10– What Is the Sales History Museum? 28:38– Hunting Vintage Sales Books & Artifacts 30:10– Closing Thoughts & Where to Connect with Todd: Caponi:https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddcaponi/https://www.transparencysale.com/Sales History Podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-sales-history-podcast/id1607151709

    31 min
  2. Ep. 11: David Politis, Entrepreneur, Founder, and Creator: Not Another CEO | How I Started

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    Ep. 11: David Politis, Entrepreneur, Founder, and Creator: Not Another CEO | How I Started

    In this engaging episode, host Andrew Kappel chats with David Politis, a serial entrepreneur and multi-time founder. David shares his journey from growing up around his entrepreneurial father to founding and scaling companies, including his experiences with Not Another CEO and BetterCloud. Key Highlights: - Starting Out: David's early exposure to entrepreneurship and his first CEO role at age 23. - Building Not Another CEO: How he is learning from CEOs at scale via podcasts with dozens of company leaders and a community of CEOs sharing real insights and support. - Lessons Learned: The importance of operating rhythm and staying laser-focused on the ideal customer profile (ICP) for successful scaling. - BetterCloud’s Success Story: From door-to-door research to scaling a $70M ARR SaaS business by prioritizing customers and transparent leadership. - Practical Takeaways: The power of consistent, high-value curated content (like a 7-year daily newsletter!) - Building trust by actively involving customers and employees. - Balancing data-driven decisions with customer empathy and product-led insights. Where to Learn More: - Not Another CEO Podcast & Community: https://podcast.notanotherceo.com/ - Not Another CEO Substack: https://notanotherceo.substack.com/ - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidpolitis/ - YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@NotAnotherCEO - Learn more about LeaderLev Pipeline Velocity Consulting:[www.LeaderLev.com](http://www.leaderlev.com/) - Link to Connect with Host Andrew Kappel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkappel/ Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe on your favorite podcast app. Share this episode with a friend, colleague, or anyone who’d be inspired by David’s story.

    54 min
  3. Ep.10: Jared Gibson, Co-Founder Outworks - Path to Entrepreneurship and the LinkedIn Journey

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    Ep.10: Jared Gibson, Co-Founder Outworks - Path to Entrepreneurship and the LinkedIn Journey

    In this episode of the How I Started Career Stories podcast, I sat down with Andrew Kappel to share the story behind launching Outworks—a content agency helping founders and executives consistently show up on LinkedIn. I talked about how I made the leap from a 15-year sales career into entrepreneurship, what it was like juggling two calendars while secretly building a company on the side, and the real tipping point that pushed me to go all in. Spoiler: it involved a terrible acquisition and one unforgettable LinkedIn post that read: “There’s never a perfect time to start—start anyway.” Outworks didn’t start out as what it is today. We originally launched as a cold email agency—but quickly realized that wasn’t the work we wanted to do. We pivoted hard into helping executives create done-for-you content on LinkedIn, and we haven’t looked back. Now, we work with CEOs and teams who want to build trust, visibility, and a real voice in their industry—but don’t have the time or bandwidth to do it alone. I also share how we’re helping companies create cultures of content creators and why that might be the best competitive edge going into 2025. Takeaways I spent over a decade in sales before co-founding Outworks.I secretly built the company while still working full-time—managing two calendars and moonlighting on prospect calls.A bad acquisition experience pushed me to finally bet on myself.We started with cold outbound but quickly shifted to high-quality LinkedIn content.The demand was clear: founders wanted to post consistently but had no time or strategy.There’s no easy button for content—consistency always wins. Today, we help CEOs and executives grow their brand and drive demand through invisible marketing. More companies are asking us to build entire ecosystems of internal creators—not just help the CEO. If you’re not visible on LinkedIn, you’re falling behind. The next generation of buyers expects it. Chapters 00:00 – Intro: Meet Jared Gibson of Outworks 01:37 – My Sales Career & How I Got the Startup Bug 05:21 – How a Bad Acquisition Pushed Me to Start 07:54 – Moonlighting with Two Calendars 08:44 – Our Original Business Model (and Why It Failed) 11:06 – The Pivot to LinkedIn Content 13:22 – What Our Clients Actually Wanted 15:28 – Why Most People Quit Posting Too Soon 17:03 – The Power of Invisible, Organic Marketing 19:55 – Why CEOs Need to Be on LinkedIn in 2025 21:45 – Helping Teams Become Content Creators 22:28 – What I’m Excited About Next Outworks – Content for Founders & Executives: https://www.outworks.io My LinkedIn Profile https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredoutworks My Podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/1Xv7C9WFxZHeoARrm8EDc5 Questions or Guest Ideas? Contact the Host Andrew Kappel on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkappel/

    24 min
  4. Ep. 9: Ryan Allis, Serial Entrepreneur and Co-Founder of iContact ($169M) Exit

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    Ep. 9: Ryan Allis, Serial Entrepreneur and Co-Founder of iContact ($169M) Exit

    In this episode of the How I Started Career Stories podcast, Ryan Allis shares how he co-founded iContact at 18, scaled it to over $50 million in annual revenue, and exited for $170 million—all before turning 30. He dives into the scrappy tactics that helped him land the first 1,000 customers, how understanding customer lifetime value fueled growth, and why he chose to walk away from corporate life to build community-first ventures. Ryan also discusses his current work with SaaSRise and GrowthRise—digital-first communities supporting SaaS founders and B2B growth leaders—and reflects on what it really takes to build and scale a purpose-driven business. Takeaways - Ryan started designing websites in middle school and launched iContact as a college freshman. - Early growth came from door-to-door efforts, creative promos, and direct customer contact. - A key early hack: auto-replies to Microsoft List Builder subscribers that drove rapid signups. - Ryan focused on metrics—spending $500 to earn $1,700 in customer lifetime value. - He scaled the company to 70,000 customers and a 60-person sales team before the exit. - iContact was sold for $170M in a full cash deal in 2012. - After the exit, Ryan attended HBS and later launched SaaSRise and GrowthRise. - SaaSRise supports SaaS CEOs with $1M–$100M in ARR; GrowthRise supports B2B sales leaders. - Ryan’s advice: do things that don’t scale at the start, and build something unique that shows your value. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to Ryan Allis and iContact 01:51 - From Web Design to Email Marketing Startup 07:29 - Early Growth Tactics and First Customers 08:28 - Growth Hacking Microsoft List Builder 10:11 - Understanding Unit Economics and Scaling 11:52 - Preparing for Exit and Acquisition 14:02 - Life After the $170M Exit 17:23 - Building SaaSRise and GrowthRise 25:07 - Managing Fast Growth and Community Building 27:30 - Lessons for Aspiring Founders 29:31 - Book Recommendations and Legacy Keywords Ryan Allis, iContact, SaaSRise, GrowthRise, SaaS growth, startup journey, founder story, email marketing, business exit, bootstrapping, venture capital, startup tips, SaaS founder community, entrepreneurship Resources & Links SaaSRise – Digital community for SaaS founders: https://www.saasrise.com/ GrowthRise – Community for B2B sales & marketing leaders: https://www.growthrise.com/ Ryan’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanallis Books by Ryan AllisMagic Year: How to Design a Life You Love – [Buy on Amazon] (https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Year-Design-Life-Love-ebook/dp/B0CCK5C4W1?ref_=ast_author_dp) Zero to One Million: How I Built A Company to $1 Million in Sales . . . and How You Can, Too – [Buy on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/Zero-One-Million-Built-Company/dp/0071496661) Contact Ryan: ryan@saasrise.com Questions or Guest Ideas? Contact the Host Andrew Kappel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkappel/

    33 min
  5. Ep. 8: Alec Sharp | a 4+ Decade Independent Consulting Journey

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    Ep. 8: Alec Sharp | a 4+ Decade Independent Consulting Journey

    In this episode of the How I Started Career Stories podcast, Alec Sharp shares his extensive journey as an independent consultant over the past 4+ Decades. He discusses his early career experiences, the transition to independent consulting, and the innovative approaches he developed in data modeling. Alec emphasizes the importance of focusing on the people who do the work and how his business model revolves around consulting, developing intellectual property, and delivering value through teaching. He reflects on the evolution of data modeling needs and concludes with insights on maintaining a successful independent consulting practice. Takeaways - Alec Sharp has 4+ Decades of experience as an independent consultant. - Early career lessons include the importance of taking initiative and not being constrained by job titles. - Transitioning to independent consulting doubled Alec's income overnight. - Building a unique value proposition is crucial for success in consulting. - Alec emphasizes the importance of focusing on the people who do the work. - His business model includes consulting, developing IP, and teaching. - Alec decided against building a larger firm after realizing he enjoys hands-on work. - Data modeling needs have evolved, but the fundamentals remain important. - Alec's approach is to give away knowledge, leading to more opportunities. - Contacting Alec directly is encouraged for those interested in his work. Chapters 01:07 - Early Career and Lessons Learned 07:53 - Transition to Independent Consulting 10:45 - Innovating in Data Modeling 12:42 - Client Acquisition and Engagement 14:34 - Focus on the People Who Do the Work 16:40 - The Business Model of Consulting 18:27 - Deciding Against Building a Larger Firm 24:25 - The Evolution of Data Modeling Needs 27:56 - Conclusion and Resources Learn more about Clariteq Systems Consulting: https://www.clariteq.com/ Read Alec’s book Workflow Modeling:Workflow Modeling: Tools for Process Improvement and Application Development, 2nd Edition Connect with Alec Sharp: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alecsharp/ LucidChart Webisodes series on process mapping methodology: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUr2vo1BNYKWYrzCjCXmYXimCOFTWDTaB&si=tauHVuIhC4VSXNSs Questions or Guest Ideas? Contact the Host Andrew Kappel on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkappel/

    30 min
  6. Ep. 7: Greg DiFraia CEO, inlayer from Big Companies to Fast Growing Startups

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    Ep. 7: Greg DiFraia CEO, inlayer from Big Companies to Fast Growing Startups

    In this episode of How I Started, host Andrew Kappel interviews Greg DiFraia, the CEO of Inlayer and a longtime technology leader with a career spanning Dell EMC, Turbonomic, Scality, and beyond. Greg shares his remarkable journey from starting in sales and operations roles at small tech resellers to leading emerging technology groups inside one of the world’s largest tech companies—and eventually stepping into the CEO seat at a fast-growing startup. Greg dives into the experiences that shaped his leadership philosophy, including the critical role of mentorship, the importance of building deep technical knowledge even with a marketing degree, and how he navigated the transition from big corporate environments to scrappy startup life. He also shares his philosophy on building company culture, scaling innovation, the reality of raising capital as a CEO, and why relentless self-development is at the core of his career journey. Greg’s story offers incredible insights for anyone passionate about leadership, technology innovation, startups, or personal growth. Takeaways - Greg started his tech career in Rhode Island, working for value-added resellers before moving to Dell EMC. - Transitioned from a marketing background to technical leadership by investing in certifications, mentorship, and relentless self-education. - Helped scale Dell EMC through major milestones, including the VMware acquisition and rapid employee growth. - Embraced the startup world with Turbonomic and Scality, helping companies innovate, grow alliances, and drive strategic partnerships. - Took the leap to an early-stage company, now leading Inlayer’s growth as CEO.- Highlights the importance of networking, mentorship, and proactive career planning. - Shares how startup leadership requires flexibility, relationship-driven execution, and personal ownership of company success. - Talks about building work culture that is both performance-driven and deeply human-centered.- Focuses on constant learning—even (and especially) when outside the comfort zone.- Believes in balancing professional ambition with intentional personal growth and life balance. Chapters 00:00 – Welcome to Rhode Island and Greg’s Career Overview 01:45 – Starting in Tech with Resellers and Integrators 03:30 – Moving from Marketing Degree to Technical Roles 06:00 – Scaling with Dell EMC and Mentorship Lessons 08:45 – Transitioning to Startups: Turbonomic and Scality 11:30 – Joining Early-Stage Companies and Building from Scratch 14:00 – Challenges and Opportunities of Startup Leadership 16:45 – Building a Strong Company Culture and Team 19:20 – Developing New Skills as a First-Time CEO 21:00 – Managing Growth, Fundraising, and Personal Development 23:30 – Work-Life Balance Challenges at High-Growth Companies 26:00 – Where to Learn More About Inlayer Leadership, technology startups, career growth, mentorship, innovation, tech sales, startup CEO, professional development, Inlayer, network management, venture capital, self-development, technical sales, Rhode Island tech, EMC, Dell EMC, Turbonomic, Scality, startup culture, entrepreneurship, SaaS, API platforms, human-centered leadership, How I Started Podcast, career planning, building companies, executive leadership, scaling startups, emotional intelligence 📍 Learn more about Inlayer: ⁠https://inlayer.com/⁠ 🌐 Learn more about Phonism (product): ⁠https://phonism.com/⁠ 🔗 Connect with Greg DiFraia: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-difraia-7914704/⁠ Questions or Guest Ideas? Contact the Host Andrew Kappel on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkappel/

    29 min
  7. Ep. 6: Barry Rhein - A Career of Selling and Living Through Curiosity

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    Ep. 6: Barry Rhein - A Career of Selling and Living Through Curiosity

    In this episode of How I Started, host Andrew Kappel interviews Barry Rhein, the founder of Selling Through Curiosity and a faculty member at Stanford Business School. Barry shares his unorthodox journey from teenage entrepreneur with no college degree to becoming a renowned sales trainer and educator for Silicon Valley’s top companies. Barry dives into the personal and professional experiences that shaped his life—from selling fishing worms and training dogs as a kid, to being fired repeatedly for questioning traditional sales models. He eventually launched his own sales training business built on an audacious offer: "Only pay me if you get results." His curiosity-based method became a powerful tool not just for selling, but for coaching, managing, hiring, and leading. Barry has trained teams at companies like Salesforce and HP, pioneered virtual sales training long before Zoom, and now teaches Stanford MBAs how to master human connection through practical, hands-on exercises. Barry is currently working with his daughter on a new project: Dating Through Curiosity, applying B2B sales techniques to personal relationships—and plans to expand into Parenting Through Curiosity next. Takeaways - Barry began his entrepreneurial journey at 12, persistently seeking jobs, selling worms, and studying behavior through dog training. - He entered sales without a college degree and got fired multiple times for challenging the status quo. - Created Selling Through Curiosity—a method that emphasizes authentic connection and curiosity-driven conversations. - Built his business on outcome-based pricing: clients only pay if they get results. - Was invited to Stanford after success at Salesforce, later co-developing a practice-based MBA course in sales. - Pioneered virtual breakout rooms and remote training years before it became the norm. - Has trained hundreds of thousands globally, scaling through innovation and adaptability. - Currently working on Dating Through Curiosity, applying sales skills to personal connection and relationships. - Emphasizes overcoming limiting beliefs, finding commonality, and connecting with authenticity. - His philosophy: Sales is life—it’s not just about closing deals, it’s about helping people reach positive conclusions. Chapters 00:00 – Intro to Barry Rhein and Early Hustle Stories 01:45 – Selling Worms, Dog Training, and Studying Human Behavior 03:10 – Becoming a Police Officer, Then Pivoting to Sales 04:50 – Getting Fired for Insubordination—and Why That Was a Good Thing 07:25 – Launching Selling Through Curiosity with “Only Pay If It Works” 09:30 – Training Teams at Salesforce, HP, and More 11:00 – Earning a Spot at Stanford Without a Degree 13:45 – Building the MBA Course: Hands-On, Practical Selling 16:05 – Virtual Training Innovation Before Zoom 18:20 – Impact at Scale: Training Over 100,000 People 20:10 – New Chapter: Dating Through Curiosity 22:00 – Future Vision: Parenting Through Curiosity 24:30 – Mentors, Inspiration, and the Power of Action 26:00 – Where to Find Barry Online and What’s Next Keywords Sales training, curiosity, human behavior, leadership, entrepreneurship, communication skills, Stanford MBA, Selling Through Curiosity, remote training, virtual sales, business development, coaching, recruiting, relationship building, personal growth, limiting beliefs, Dating Through Curiosity, Parenting Through Curiosity, outcome-based consulting, authenticity, sales philosophy, edtech, life skills, professional development, emotional intelligence, influence, connection, podcast Selling Through Curiosity Website (STC): https://barryrhein.com/ Instagram- Through Curiosity: https://www.instagram.com/through.curiosity/?hl=en LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barry-rhein-1b6123/ Questions or Guest Ideas? Contact the Host Andrew Kappel on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkappel/

    34 min
  8. Ep. 5: Matt Bolian - West Point to Corporate to Startup Founder

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    Ep. 5: Matt Bolian - West Point to Corporate to Startup Founder

    In this episode of How I Started, host Andrew Kappel interviews Matt Bolian, co-founder of Supered, a platform focused on transforming service delivery for HubSpot partners and beyond. Matt shares his unique journey from West Point graduate and military intelligence officer to revenue operations leader, agency founder, and now tech entrepreneur. Matt dives into the lessons learned from his time in the military, including pattern recognition, decision-making under uncertainty, and leadership in high-stakes environments—skills that later shaped his approach to RevOps and business consulting. He talks about launching and scaling RevPartners, one of the fastest-growing HubSpot partner agencies, and the insights that led him to create Supered. The conversation covers tech-enabled service delivery, the challenges of scaling service businesses, and his goal of building a $100 million company without VC funding. Takeaways - Military training in prioritization, failure, and pattern recognition directly influenced Matt’s approach to business problem-solving. - Transitioning from the Army to private sector tech required learning the differences between project management and RevOps leadership. - His experience integrating ERP and CRM systems sparked his interest in RevOps consulting. - Founding RevPartners demonstrated the power of operational efficiency and outcome-based consulting models. - The limitations of scaling service companies led to the creation of Supered, focused on increasing delivery capacity per head. - Supered aims to enable next-gen HubSpot partners by offering tech-enabled solutions that enhance service quality and partner profitability. - Matt emphasizes bootstrapping and maintaining control and ownership as a key part of his long-term strategy. - Mentorship, adaptability, and lifelong learning are recurring themes in Matt’s career evolution. - His vision includes expanding Supered beyond HubSpot partners to end users, targeting $100 million in revenue. Chapters 00:00 – Introduction to Matt Bolian and His Career Journey 01:11 – West Point, Leadership Training, and Early Lessons 03:24 – Becoming a Military Intelligence Officer: Pattern Recognition and Predictions 07:08 – Forecasting, Decision-Making, and High-Stakes Scenarios 09:00 – Six Years in the Army: Command Roles and Multinational Logistics 10:56 – Transitioning from Military to Civilian Tech: A Rough Start 12:24 – Chief of Staff at C Spire: Entering RevOps and Channel Management 14:55 – Revenue Systems, M&A Integration, and Building Processes 17:36 – Moving to PE-Backed Companies and Running Business Ops 20:04 – Founding RevPartners: Standardizing on HubSpot 22:17 – Rapid Growth and SaaS-Like Scaling in an Agency Model 23:50 – The Challenges of Service Delivery and Client Experience 25:15 – Birth of Supered: Increasing Capacity Without Adding Headcount 27:01 – Building the Next Generation of Elite HubSpot Partners 28:50 – Long-Term Vision: Serving End Users and Scaling to $100 Million 29:38 – Bootstrapping Supered and Building a Winning Culture 30:02 – Where to Find Matt: LinkedIn and Supered.io Keyword RevOps, Revenue Operations, HubSpot, CRM, Service Delivery, SaaS, Entrepreneurship, Military Leadership, Business Operations, Process Optimization, Private Equity, Tech Consulting, Salesforce, Microsoft Dynamics, Pattern Recognition, Forecasting, ERP Systems, Agency Scaling, Bootstrapping, Supered, RevPartners, Channel Management, SaaS Growth, Leadership Development, Mentorship, Service Innovation, End Users, HubSpot Partners, Scaling Service Businesses Connect with Matt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewbolian/ Supered Website: https://www.supered.io Questions or Guest Ideas? Contact the Host Andrew Kappel on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkappel/⁠

    31 min
  9. Ep. 4 Brad McClleland: from CEO Intern to Robotics to RevenueForce.io RevOps Business Owner

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    Ep. 4 Brad McClleland: from CEO Intern to Robotics to RevenueForce.io RevOps Business Owner

    In this episode of How I Started, host Andrew Kappel interviews Brad McClelland, founder of RevenueForce.io, a consulting firm specializing in RevOps and commercial maturity. Brad shares his unconventional career journey, from working at a tech startup, PeopleMatter, to leading sales at a cell phone repair franchise, and then transitioning into consulting for private equity-backed SaaS and services companies. He discusses the power of mentorship, the importance of process optimization, and how his experience across B2B, B2C, consulting, and even robotics has shaped his approach to solving business challenges. The conversation also explores the trade-offs between full-time employees vs. contractors, the role of RevOps in scaling companies, and how private equity firms approach revenue growth strategies. Takeaways - Early exposure to executive leadership helped Brad develop business acumen quickly. - Being part of an early-stage SaaS company provided insight into startup growth and sales enablement. - Transitioning into B2C (franchises and repair services) offered a new perspective on operations and profitability. - Private equity-backed companies prioritize process optimization and efficiency in revenue operations. - Building RevOps functions from scratch requires strategic planning and deep understanding of systems like Salesforce and HubSpot. - The contractor model can be more effective than hiring full-time employees in consulting. - Revenue growth in PE-backed companies requires a blend of data-driven decision-making and operational expertise. - Experience across multiple industries allows for cross-pollination of best practices. - Mentorship is critical for career growth, and Brad credits three major mentors for shaping his journey. - Downtime in business—whether in retail, consulting, or labor efficiency—is a cost killer. Chapters 00:00 – Introduction to Brad McClelland and His Career Journey 01:49 – Early Experience at PeopleMatter: Learning from Leadership 04:14 – Transition to Franchise Sales: Scaling a B2C Business 07:43 – The Role of Operational Efficiency in Business Growth 12:18 – Side Quest: Brad’s Venture into Industrial Robotics 14:24 – Meeting Andrew & Working at Skaled Consulting 17:20 – Founding Revenue Force: Focus on RevOps & Commercial Maturity 19:09 – Working with Private Equity Firms and Portfolio Companies 22:29 – The Role of Reporting & Data in Revenue Operations 22:44 – Closing Thoughts and Where to Find Brad Connect with Brad on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradmcclelland/ Revenue Force Website: ⁠https://revenueforce.io/ Questions or Guest Ideas? Contact the Host Andrew Kappel on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkappel/

    24 min
  10. Ep. 3 Parker Dewey Founder & CEO Jeffrey Moss: Fixing College to Career with Micro Internships

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    Ep. 3 Parker Dewey Founder & CEO Jeffrey Moss: Fixing College to Career with Micro Internships

    In this episode, Andrew Kappel interviews Jeffrey Moss, the founder of Parker Dewey, a company focused on bridging the gap between college and career through micro internships. Jeffrey shares his journey from investment banking to education technology, highlighting the challenges students face in securing internships and the biases employers have in hiring. He discusses the inception of Parker Dewey as a solution to these issues, creating low-stakes opportunities for students to gain experience while providing employers with a better way to assess talent. The conversation also touches on the growth of the company and the future of micro internships in the recruiting landscape. In this conversation, Jeffrey and Andrew discuss the growing trend of integrating micro internships into the recruitment process, particularly focusing on the unique skills that student athletes bring to the table. They explore how companies are leveraging these internships to create equitable pathways for students while also benefiting from the fresh perspectives that college students offer. The discussion highlights the importance of mentorship, relationship building, and the role of established companies like IBM and HubSpot in supporting these initiatives. The conversation wraps up with insights on entrepreneurship and the significance of simplicity in business processes. Takeaways • Micro-internships provide valuable experience for students. • Employers often rely on biases in hiring processes. • Parker Dewey was created to address the college to career gap. • Students need low-stakes opportunities to explore career options. • The concept of micro-internships is gaining traction. • Employers benefit from engaging with students early on. • Real-world experience is crucial for career readiness. • The platform has partnerships with over 900 colleges. • The future of recruiting will include more experiential learning opportunities. Companies are increasingly integrating micro internships into their recruitment processes. • Student athletes possess valuable skills such as grit, determination, and coachability. • Micro internships provide a bridge between education and industry, offering real-world experience. • Programs funded by major companies like IBM are creating opportunities for students to gain skills in AI. • Networking through projects can help students build valuable professional relationships. • Simplicity in business processes is crucial for scalability and success. • Mentorship is a two-way street, benefiting both students and professionals. • The demand for micro-internships is high, with many companies participating. • Understanding the patterns of success and failure in entrepreneurship is key to growth. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to Jeff Moss and Career Pathways 12:03 - Creating Low-Stakes Opportunities for Students 15:04 - The Value Proposition for Employers 17:53 - Growth and Evolution of Parker Dewey 20:53 - Looking Ahead: The Future of Micro Internships 22:49 - Integrating Micro Internships into Recruitment 24:47 - The Value of Student Athletes in Business Development 26:59 - Micro Internships: Bridging Education and Industry 29:39 - Finding Opportunities in Micro Internships 32:13 - Building Relationships Through Projects 34:59 - Insights from Successful Entrepreneurs Connect with Jeffrey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreybmoss/ Parker Dewey Website: http://www.ParkerDewey.com Questions or Guest Ideas? Contact the Host Andrew Kappel on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkappel/⁠

    40 min
  11. Ep.2 Omeed Tabiei: The Coolest Lawyer - Politics, Startups, and accidental Law Firm Owner

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    Ep.2 Omeed Tabiei: The Coolest Lawyer - Politics, Startups, and accidental Law Firm Owner

    In this episode, Andrew Kappel interviews Omeed Tabiei, a lawyer and entrepreneur, who shares his unexpected journey from aspiring public defender to multi-time startup founder, and now law firm owner. Omeed discusses the serendipitous events that shaped his career, his experiences in politics and tech, and the lessons learned from his entrepreneurial ventures. He emphasizes the importance of quick wins, the iterative nature of starting a business, and reflects on how he would have approached his career differently. The conversation highlights the intersection of law and entrepreneurship, providing valuable insights for aspiring founders and legal professionals alike. Takeaways Omeed never intended to own a law firm, highlighting the unpredictability of career paths. Omeed became fascinated with business serendipitously while working as a political aid in Washington DC. Starting a business and entrepreneurship in general is an iterative process filled with failures and lessons. 00:00- The Unexpected Journey to Law Firm Ownership 05:34- From Politics to Tech: A Shift in Focus 11:31- The Entrepreneurial Spirit Awakens 18:12- Lessons from Failed Ventures 24:28- Building a Successful Law Firm 30:21- Reflections on the Journey and Future Aspirations Connect with Omeed on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/omeed-tabiei/ Optimist Legal Website: www.optimistlegal.com⁠ Questions or Guest Ideas? Contact the Host Andrew Kappel on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkappel/

    37 min
  12. Ep.1: How I Started with Dan Currin, Co-Founder OrgChartHub

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    Ep.1: How I Started with Dan Currin, Co-Founder OrgChartHub

    In this inaugural episode of the How I Started Career Stories podcast, host Andrew Kappel interviews Dan Currin, co-founder of OrgChartHub and GeoMapper. Dan shares his entrepreneurial journey, starting from his early aspirations in university, through his experiences at Enterprise Rent-A-Car, and into the startup world. He discusses the importance of cultural exposure, the challenges of transitioning from a corporate job to a startup, and the lessons learned from his various ventures. The conversation highlights the significance of patience and understanding customer needs in building successful businesses, as well as the exciting future ahead for OrgChartHub and GeoMapper. Takeaways Dan always had a desire to start his own business.His university experience sparked an interest in entrepreneurship.Cultural exposure in the US influenced his career path.Participation in the Leadership & Business Development program at Enterprise Rent-A-Car provided valuable learning experiences.Transitioning to startups required patience and adaptability.Joining a crew as the first sales hire was a pivotal moment.The idea for OrgChartHub emerged from a real business need.B2B sales proved to be more aligned with his skills than B2C.Key relationships formed in previous roles were crucial for success. - **01:27** Early Aspirations and University Experience - **04:17** Cultural Exposure and Entrepreneurial Seeds - **06:38** Enterprise Rent-A-Car: A Learning Experience - **10:04** Transitioning to Startups and New Ventures - **13:34** From Idea to Business: The Birth of OrgChartHub - **15:57** Lessons Learned from Past Ventures - **17:58** Expanding the Business: GeoMapper and Future Plans Connect with Dan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danieljcurrin/ Sign up for OrgChartHub here: https://orgcharthub.com/ Questions or Guest Ideas? Contact the Host Andrew Kappel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkappel/

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