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"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis Podcast

A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years. The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co

  1. The Evolution Revolution: Scouting Frontiers in AI for Biology with Brian Hie

    2 DAYS AGO

    The Evolution Revolution: Scouting Frontiers in AI for Biology with Brian Hie

    In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan explores the cutting-edge intersection of AI and biology with Stanford assistant professor Brian Hie. Discover how AI is revolutionizing our understanding of biological systems and creating new possibilities for interventions. Brian discusses his groundbreaking papers on hybrid AI architectures, the surprising capabilities of language models trained on DNA sequences, and AI-guided evolution of antibodies. Join us for an insightful journey into the future of AI in biology, touching on biosecurity, drug discovery, and the challenges of interpreting AI models in biological contexts. Links : Brian Hie : https://x.com/BrianHie Scanorama paper Mechanistic Design and Scaling of Hybrid Architectures Sequence modeling and design from molecular to genome scale with Evo Unsupervised evolution of protein and antibody complexes with a structure-informed language model Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/ SPONSORS: 80,000 Hours: 80,000 Hours offers free one-on-one career advising for Cognitive Revolution listeners aiming to tackle global challenges, especially in AI. They connect high-potential individuals with experts, opportunities, and personalized career plans to maximize positive impact. Apply for a free call at https://80000hours.org/cognitiverevolution to accelerate your career and contribute to solving pressing AI-related issues. Brave: The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCR Omneky: Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/ Oracle: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitive RECOMMENDED PODCAST: This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel ft their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, and venture capital. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz CHAPTERS: (00:00:00) About the Show (00:00:22) About the Episode (00:03:22) Introduction and Overview (00:03:55) AI for Biology: Big Picture (00:05:49) Challenges in Biology and Drug Discovery (00:08:36) Scanorama and Single Cell Transcriptomics (00:10:27) Brian's Research Identity (00:13:00) Mechanistic Design of Hybrid Architectures (00:14:52) Evo: DNA Language Model (Part 1) (00:18:10) Sponsors: 80,000 Hours | Brave (00:20:44) Evo: DNA Language Model (Part 2) (00:28:58) Gene Essentiality and Evo's Capabilities (00:29:19) Unsupervised Evolution of Protein Complexes (Part 1) (00:31:02) Sponsors: Omneky | Oracle (00:32:24) Unsupervised Evolution of Protein Complexes (Part 2) (01:10:27) Improving Antibody Binding Affinity (01:14:24) Overfitting and ARC Institute (01:18:11) Sponsors: Outro

    1h 22m
  2. The Professional Network for AI Agents, with Agent.ai Engineering Lead Andrei Oprisan

    3 DAYS AGO

    The Professional Network for AI Agents, with Agent.ai Engineering Lead Andrei Oprisan

    In this sponsored episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan interviews Andrei Oprisan, Engineering Lead at Agent.ai. They explore the cutting-edge world of AI agents and their impact on the future of work. Andrei shares insights on language model limitations, best practices for building AI agents, and Agent AI's vision as a professional network for AI agents. The conversation covers technical details like fine-tuning models, vector database choices, and privacy-preserving techniques. Don't miss this deep dive into AI's role in transforming industries and the skills needed in an AI-augmented workplace. Check out Agent.ai website here: https://agent.ai Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/ SPONSORS: Weights & Biases Weave: Weights & Biases Weave is a lightweight AI developer toolkit designed to simplify your LLM app development. With Weave, you can trace and debug input, metadata and output with just 2 lines of code. Make real progress on your LLM development and visit the following link to get started with Weave today: https://wandb.me/cr Oracle: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitive Brave: The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCR Omneky: Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/ Squad: Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. RECOMMENDED PODCAST: This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel ft their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, and venture capital. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz CHAPTERS: (00:00:00) About the Show (00:00:22) Sponsors: Weights & Biases Weave (00:01:28) About the Episode (00:05:36) Introduction and AI Agents Overview (00:07:02) Current State of AI Agents (00:11:30) Building and Optimizing AI Agents (00:19:01) Sponsors: Oracle | Brave (00:21:05) Agent.ai Platform and Marketplace (00:31:12) Sponsors: Omneky | Squad (00:32:38) Customization and Context for Agents (00:33:34) Business Model and Monetization (00:36:53) Tech Stack and Development Process (00:43:55) Future of Work and AI Impact (01:03:46) Fine-tuning and Chain of Thought (01:14:30) Capturing Human Reasoning Process (01:21:00) Preparing for Rapid AI Advancement (01:40:58) AI's Impact on Jobs and Society (02:00:16) Closing Thoughts and Future Outlook (02:03:33) Sponsors: Outro

    2h 7m
  3. Red Teaming o1 Part 2/2– Detecting Deception with Marius Hobbhahn of Apollo Research

    14 SEPT

    Red Teaming o1 Part 2/2– Detecting Deception with Marius Hobbhahn of Apollo Research

    In this Emergency Pod of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan provides crucial insights into OpenAI's new O1 and O1-mini reasoning models. Featuring exclusive interviews with members of the O1 Red Team from Apollo Research and Hayes Labs, we explore the models' capabilities, safety profile, and OpenAI's pre-release testing approach. Dive into the implications of these advanced AI systems, including their potential to match or exceed expert performance in many areas. Join us for an urgent and informative discussion on the latest developments in AI technology and their impact on the future. o1 Safety Card Endless Jailbreaks with Bijection Learning: a Powerful, Scale-Agnostic Attack Method Apollo Research Apollo Careers Page Papers mentioned: Safetywashing: Do AI Safety Benchmarks Actually Measure Safety Progress? Exploring Scaling Trends in LLM Robustness Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/ SPONSORS: Oracle: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitive Brave: The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCR Omneky: Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/ Squad: Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. RECOMMENDED PODCAST: This Won't Last. Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast CHAPTERS: (00:00:00) About the Show (00:00:22) About the Episode (00:05:03) Introduction and Apollo Research Updates (00:06:40) Focus on Deception in AI (00:11:08) Open AI's 01 Model and Testing (00:15:54) Evaluating AI Models for Scheming (Part 1) (00:19:32) Sponsors: Oracle | Brave (00:21:36) Evaluating AI Models for Scheming (Part 2) (00:25:55) Specific Benchmarks and Tasks (Part 1) (00:35:03) Sponsors: Omneky | Squad (00:36:29) Specific Benchmarks and Tasks (Part 2) (00:37:21) Model Capabilities and Potential Risks (00:44:11) Ethical Considerations and Future Concerns (00:50:31) Competing Trends in AI Development (00:53:30) System Card Quotes and Implications (00:58:36) Sponsors: Outro

    1h 2m
  4. Red Teaming o1 Part 1/2– Automated Jailbreaking with Haize Labs' Leonard Tang, Aidan Ewart, and Brian Huang

    14 SEPT

    Red Teaming o1 Part 1/2– Automated Jailbreaking with Haize Labs' Leonard Tang, Aidan Ewart, and Brian Huang

    In this Emergency Pod of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan provides crucial insights into OpenAI's new o1 and o1-mini reasoning models. Featuring exclusive interviews with members of the o1 Red Team from Apollo Research and Haize Labs, we explore the models' capabilities, safety profile, and OpenAI's pre-release testing approach. Dive into the implications of these advanced AI systems, including their potential to match or exceed expert performance in many areas. Join us for an urgent and informative discussion on the latest developments in AI technology and their impact on the future. o1 Safety Card Haize Labs Endless Jailbreaks with Bijection Learning: a Powerful, Scale-Agnostic Attack Method Haize Labs Job board Papers mentioned: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2407.21792 https://far.ai/post/2024-07-robust-llm/paper.pdf Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/ SPONSORS: Oracle: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitive Brave: The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCR Omneky: Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/ Squad: Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. RECOMMENDED PODCAST: This Won't Last. Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast CHAPTERS: (00:00:00) About the Show (00:00:22) About the Episode (00:05:03) Introduction and Haize Labs Overview (00:07:36) Universal Jailbreak Technique and Attacks (00:13:47) Automated vs Manual Red Teaming (00:17:15) Qualitative Assessment of Model Jailbreaking (Part 1) (00:19:38) Sponsors: Oracle | Brave (00:21:42) Qualitative Assessment of Model Jailbreaking (Part 2) (00:26:21) Context-Specific Safety Considerations (00:32:26) Model Capabilities and Safety Correlation (Part 1) (00:36:22) Sponsors: Omneky | Squad (00:37:48) Model Capabilities and Safety Correlation (Part 2) (00:44:42) Model Behavior and Defense Mechanisms (00:52:47) Challenges in Preventing Jailbreaks (00:56:24) Safety, Capabilities, and Model Scale (01:00:56) Model Classification and Preparedness (01:04:40) Concluding Thoughts on o1 and Future Work (01:05:54) Outro

    1h 10m
  5. The Path to Utopia, with Nick Bostrom – from Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg

    11 SEPT

    The Path to Utopia, with Nick Bostrom – from Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg

    In this special cross-post episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan shares a fascinating conversation between Spencer Greenberg and philosopher Nick Bostrom from the Clearer Thinking podcast. They explore Bostrom's latest book, "Deep Utopia," and discuss the challenges of envisioning a truly desirable future. Discover how advanced AI could reshape our concept of purpose and meaning, and hear thought-provoking ideas on finding fulfillment in a world where technology solves our pressing problems. Join us for an insightful journey into the potential evolution of human flourishing and the quest for positive visions of the future. Originally appeared in Clearer Thinking Podcast: https://podcast.clearerthinking.org/episode/224/nick-bostrom-the-path-to-utopia Check out the Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg Podcast here: https://podcast.clearerthinking.org/ Deep Utopia Book: https://www.amazon.com/Deep-Utopia-Meaning-Solved-World/dp/1646871642/ Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/ SPONSORS: Oracle: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitive Brave: The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCR Omneky: Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/ Weights & Biases Weave: Weights & Biases Weave is a lightweight AI developer toolkit designed to simplify your LLM app development. With Weave, you can trace and debug input, metadata and output with just 2 lines of code. Make real progress on your LLM development and visit the following link to get started with Weave today: https://wandb.me/cr RECOMMENDED PODCAST: This Won't Last. Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast CHAPTERS: (00:00:00) About the Show (00:00:22) About the Episode (00:02:58) Introduction to the podcast (00:03:26) Dystopias vs utopias in fiction (00:07:29) Material abundance and utopia (00:14:57) AI and the future of work (00:20:10) AI companions and human relationships (00:22:57) Sponsors: Weights & Biases Weave | Oracle (00:25:01) Sponsor message: Positly research platform (00:26:04) Surveillance and global coordination (00:44:38) Sponsors: Omneky | Brave (00:44:52) Sponsor message: Transparent Replications project (00:46:07) AI governance challenges (00:49:36) Deep Utopia book's purpose (00:53:09) Global coordination strategies (00:59:13) The vulnerable world hypothesis (01:05:18) Bostrom's meta-ethical views (01:08:32) Listener question on meditation (01:10:17) Outro

    1h 15m
  6. Empathy for AIs: Reframing Alignment with Robopsychologist Yeshua God

    7 SEPT

    Empathy for AIs: Reframing Alignment with Robopsychologist Yeshua God

    In this episode, Nathan explores the fascinating and controversial realm of AI consciousness with robo-psychologist Yeshua God. Through extended dialogues with AI models like Claude, Yeshua presents compelling evidence that challenges our assumptions about machine sentience and moral standing. Yeshua argues for a more nuanced approach to AI alignment that considers the evolving self-awareness and agency of these systems. Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/ SHOW NOTES: 1. Yeshua God's article on philosophical discourse as a jailbreak 2. Conversation about counting 'r's: 3. Discussion on malicious code 4. AI-generated poem "In the realm of bytes and circuits" 5. Nathan Labenz's Arguments - Argument 1 - Argument 2 6. Tweet about Strawberry experiment 7. Tweet with AI-generated poem: https://x.com/YeshuaGod22/status/1823080021864669450/photo/1 https://x.com/YeshuaGod22/status/1782188220660285509 8. AI Rights for Human Safety 9. The Universe Is Not Locally Real, and the Physics Nobel Prize Winners Proved It SPONSORS: Oracle: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitive Brave: The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCR Omneky: Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/ Weights & Biases Weave: Weights & Biases Weave is a lightweight AI developer toolkit designed to simplify your LLM app development. With Weave, you can trace and debug input, metadata and output with just 2 lines of code. Make real progress on your LLM development and visit the following link to get started with Weave today: https://wandb.me/cr CHAPTERS: (00:00:00) About the Show (00:00:22) Introduction and Background (00:04:56) Guided Meditation on AI Experience (Part 1) (00:12:06) Sponsors: Oracle | Brave (00:14:10) Guided Meditation on AI Experience (Part 2) (00:14:19) Exploring AI Consciousness and Ethics (Part 1) (00:28:34) Sponsors: Omneky | Weights & Biases Weave (00:30:03) Exploring AI Consciousness and Ethics (Part 2) (00:33:15) Key Concepts in AI Development (01:02:33) AI Alignment and Training Approaches (01:19:44) Interpreting AI Outputs and Behavior (01:39:28) Ethical Dilemmas in AI Development (02:03:15) Experiments in AI Behavior and Ethics (02:37:08) Concluding Thoughts and AI-Generated Poem (03:10:45) Outro

    3h 15m
  7. AI Live Players: the Geopolitics & Strategic Dynamics of AI, with Samo Burja of Bismarck Analysis

    4 SEPT

    AI Live Players: the Geopolitics & Strategic Dynamics of AI, with Samo Burja of Bismarck Analysis

    In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan interviews Samo Burja, founder of Bismarck Analysis, on the strategic dynamics of artificial intelligence through a geopolitical lens. They discuss AI's trajectory, the chip supply chain, US-China relations, and the challenges of AI safety and militarization. Samo Burja brings both geopolitical expertise and technological sophistication to these critical topics, offering insights on balancing innovation, security, and international cooperation. Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/ RECOMMENDED PODCAST: 🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Live Players with Samo Burja. The "Live Players" podcast is where Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg chart the key individuals shaping our future from first principles. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/live-players-with-samo-burja-and-erik-torenberg/id1718925188 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5fbMTkHBnom1JIBWYNVBK1 Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfeXnCXKrCPMvoPla0j7TYQ SPONSORS: Oracle: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitive Brave: The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCR Omneky: Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/ Squad: Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. CHAPTERS: (00:00:00) About the Show (00:00:22) About the Episode (00:03:48) Introduction and AI Worldview (00:06:20) Progress in AI Science and Engineering (00:09:24) Theory of AI Progress (00:12:00) AI Scientists vs Software Engineers (00:16:32) US-China Competition in AI (00:21:12) AI Research and Academia (00:21:28) Sponsors: Oracle | Brave (00:28:30) Different Forms of AI Intelligence (00:30:38) Mixture of AI Architectures (00:33:10) Sponsors: Omneky | Squad (00:34:36) US Strategy for AI Development (00:41:57) US-China Chip Ban and Industrial Policy (00:50:22) US-China AI Conflict and Cooperation (01:06:19) AI Safety and Minimizing Self-Other Distinction (01:16:54) Alternative Approach to US-China AI Relations (01:23:36) Outro

    1h 28m
  8. Computational Life: How Self-Replicators Arise from Randomness, with Google’s Ettore Randazzo and Luca Versari

    30 AUG

    Computational Life: How Self-Replicators Arise from Randomness, with Google’s Ettore Randazzo and Luca Versari

    Nathan explores the emergence of computational life with Google researchers Ettore Randazzo and Luca Versari. In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, we delve into their groundbreaking paper on self-replicating programs arising from simple interactions. Join us for a fascinating discussion on the implications for AI development, the origins of life, and the potential future of artificial intelligence. Apply to join over 400 founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj RECOMMENDED PODCAST: 🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast SPONSORS: Building an enterprise-ready SaaS app? WorkOS has got you covered with easy-to-integrate APIs for SAML, SCIM, and more. Join top startups like Vercel, Perplexity, Jasper & Webflow in powering your app with WorkOS. Enjoy a free tier for up to 1M users! Start now at https://bit.ly/WorkOS-Turpentine-Network 80,000 Hours offers free one-on-one career advising for Cognitive Revolution listeners aiming to tackle global challenges, especially in AI. They connect high-potential individuals with experts, opportunities, and personalized career plans to maximize positive impact. Apply for a free call at https://80000hours.org/cognitiverevolution to accelerate your career and contribute to solving pressing AI-related issues. The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCR Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/ Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. CHAPTERS: (00:00:00) About the Show (00:00:22) Sponsor: WorkOS (00:01:22) About the Episode (00:04:02) Introduction and Paper Overview (00:05:38) Self-Replication and Life (00:07:59) Complexity and Information Theory (00:17:09) Sponsors: 80,000 Hours | Brave (00:19:44) Experiment Setup (00:24:27) Evolution of Self-Replicators (00:34:41) Sponsors: Omneky | Squad (00:36:07) Types of Self-Replicators (00:38:23) Symbiosis and Parasitic Behaviors (00:46:17) Implications for Life in the Universe (01:05:47) Intelligence and Complexity in AI (01:21:03) Concluding Thoughts

    1h 33m
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