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This is Founder Real Talk, where we get real about the challenges that founders and startup executives face, and how they've grown from tough experiences. Hosted by Managing Partner Glenn Solomon.

  1. AI's Trust Architects: The Patronus Approach to LLM-Based Applications and Enterprise Adoption with Anand Kannappan & Rebecca Qian

    16 JUL

    AI's Trust Architects: The Patronus Approach to LLM-Based Applications and Enterprise Adoption with Anand Kannappan & Rebecca Qian

    In a world where enterprises are moving faster than ever to adopt generative AI solutions, Patronus AI offers solutions to scalably and reliably catch mistakes and evaluate the performance of large language models (LLMs). In this episode of Founder Real Talk, host Glenn Solomon and guest host Dan Cahana sit down with AI visionaries and Patronus AI co-founders Anand Kannappan and Rebecca Qian to explore their journey from CS students at the University of Chicago to AI leadership roles at Meta and the reasons they felt compelled to start Patronus after recognizing the need for robust evaluation tools following the release of ChatGPT in late 2022. Anand and Rebecca illuminate the challenges enterprises face in adopting AI and the ways they’ve built Patronus to mitigate challenges like hallucinations and brand alignment. Against the backdrop of rapid AI adoption at large companies, the founders share their vision for creating the enterprise standard for unbiased, independent evaluations. KEY TAKEAWAYS 1. AI Visionaries: Anand and Rebecca's extensive experience in AI and machine learning, including their time at Meta and the University of Chicago, laid the foundation for Patronus. 2. Day -1 for AI: The founders see AI adoption as still being in the very early stages, describing it as "Day -1." Large companies are moving faster than ever to adopt AI technologies but face challenges in navigating the rapidly evolving landscape. 3. Solving Critical AI Issues: Patronus addresses the challenges of LLMs, such as hallucinations, unexpected behavior, and brand misalignments, making AI deployment safer and more reliable for enterprises. 4. API-First Approach: Patronus's API-first solution allows for seamless integration into various parts of the tech stack, offering flexibility and scalability for real-time and offline use cases. 5. Enterprise Adoption: The rapid adoption of AI by enterprises, driven by the need for reliability and safety, highlights the importance and urgency of Patronus's solutions. 6. Future of AI: Patronus describes “Scalable oversight" and how humans will learn to supervise increasingly intelligent AI systems RESOURCES • Learn more about Notable Capital: www.notablecap.com • Learn more about Patronus AI: https://www.patronus.ai/ CONNECT • Connect with Glenn Solomon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glennsolomon/ • Follow Glenn Solomon on Twitter: https://x.com/glennsolomon • Connect with Dan Cahana on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dancahana/ • Follow Dan Cahana on Twitter: https://x.com/dan_cahana • Connect with Anand Kannappan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anandnkannappan/ • Follow Anand Kannappan on Twitter: https://x.com/anandnk24 • Connect with Rebecca Qian on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebeccaqian/ • Follow Rebecca Qian on Twitter: https://x.com/rebeccatqian Produced by Saschi Productions Music by Gus Culpo CHAPTERS 00:00 Intro and Introductions 5:00 What does Patronus do? 6:55 What’s been some of the surprises in AI? 10:00 The Patronus Product 12:15 How are customers using Patronus? 15:27 Why is an API-first approach important? 16:45 How did you know this was the right place to focus? 19:40 Large companies of the world are moving faster than ever 26:40 Into the Future: What will you look for to know that AI has been successful? 29:00 How do customers plan to deploy this type of technology? 32:00 AI Predictions 35:00 What motivates the Patronus founders? 36:40 What advice would you give to founders looking to start a company in the AI field?

    38 min
  2. Unlocking Developer Productivity: The Coder Journey with CEO Rob Whiteley and Co-founders Ammar Bandukwala & Kyle Carberry

    25 JUN

    Unlocking Developer Productivity: The Coder Journey with CEO Rob Whiteley and Co-founders Ammar Bandukwala & Kyle Carberry

    In this episode of Founder Real Talk, Glenn Solomon welcomes the team from Coder, including CEO Rob Whiteley and technical co-founders Ammar Bandukwala and Kyle Carberry. They discuss Coder’s journey from its inception, the company’s product pivots, and its growth trajectory. Listeners will gain insights into how Coder enables developers to write code directly in the cloud, enhancing productivity and security. They’ll also learn about the strategic decisions behind Coder's open-source approach, the challenges faced, and the recent successful $35 million funding round. KEY TAKEAWAYS 1. Shift to Cloud Development: Coder allows developers to write code natively in the cloud, improving productivity and security. This shift is akin to moving from old-school word processors to modern office suites. 2. Open Source Evolution: The company pivoted from a consumer-focused SaaS application to an open-source project, resulting in the popular Code Server and later the Coder platform, which supports team-based remote development. 3. Product Market Fit and Customer Adoption: Coder has achieved significant traction with large enterprises and tech companies by providing a product that enhances developer productivity while maintaining security. 4. Strategic Leadership Changes: Bringing in Rob Whiteley as CEO and Josh Epstein as CRO helped Coder focus on large enterprises, leveraging their expertise in go-to-market strategies. 5. Future Growth and Vision: Coder's recent $35 million funding round will support further development and expansion. The company aims to capitalize on opportunities in both the VDI market and the emerging generative AI tools sector. Tune in to hear how Coder's innovative approach is reshaping software development and their plans for the future. RESOURCES • Learn more about Notable Capital: www.notablecap.com • Learn more about Coder: www.coder.com CONNECT • Connect with Glenn Solomon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glennsolomon/ • Follow Glenn Solomon on Twitter: https://x.com/glennsolomon Produced by Saschi Productions Music by Gus Culpo CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction to Coder and its Founders 02:54 Evolution of Coder's Product and Business Model 05:07 The Decision to Build Coder as an Open Source Company 08:14 Building Code Server and Transitioning to Coder 10:23 The Role of Open Source in Coder's Growth 13:16 Justification for Coder in Different Customer Segments 15:20 Bringing in a CEO and Building a Strong Culture 20:43 Building the Go-to-Market Team and Strategy 22:28 Future Opportunities in the Cloud Development Market 26:40 Recent Fundraise and Milestones for Coder 29:20 Critical Milestones and Innovations for Coder 31:30 Rob's Biggest Learning as a First-Time CEO

    36 min

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