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B2B Marketing with Dave Gerhardt

Dave Gerhardt (Founder of Exit Five, former CMO) and guests help you grow your career in B2B marketing. Episodes include conversations with CMOs, marketing leaders, and subject matter experts across all aspects of modern B2B marketing: planning, strategy, operations, ABM, demand gen., product marketing, brand, content, social media, and more. Join 4,400+ members in our private community at exitfive.com.

  1. 3 DAYS AGO

    #191: Drive | How To Measure Your Marketing Efforts with Pranav Piyush, Co-Founder & CEO of Paramark

    This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Pranav Piyush, Co-Founder & CEO of Paramark, hosted a session on one of B2B's biggest challenges: measurement and attribution. Pranav covers: Why attribution models like first-touch and last-touch are outdatedHow to prove the incremental impact of marketing channels, including search, social, email, podcasts, billboards, and brand.How to present marketing's value to the CFO and CEOTimestamps (00:00) - - Intro to Pranav (06:01) - - Marketing IS Measurable (06:44) - - What Does Attribution Mean? (09:59) - - Do Search Ads Drive Incremental Sales? (11:16) - - How To Find Cause From Search > Impression > Click > Conversion (13:09) - - Google’s Conversion Lift (14:36) - - Do Social Ads Drive Incremental Sales? (16:02) - - Tracking Demo Bookings vs. LinkedIn Impressions (18:17) - - Do Emails Drive Incremental Sales? (20:47) - - Do Podcasts Drive Incremental Sales? (23:59) - - Do Billboards Drive Incremental Sales? (26:23) - - How Do You Measure Brand? (31:18) - - Why You Should Experiment to Understand Attribution (33:28) - - The Long Term Impact of Brand Equity (35:13) - - How to Measure the Impact of Videos and LinkedIn (36:26) - - Impressions vs Results (39:36) - - Impressions vs Demos (43:33) - - Wrap Up Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership *** This episode of the Exit Five podcast is brought to you by our friends at Knak.  Launching an email or landing page in your marketing automation platform shouldn't feel like assembling an airplane mid flight with no instructions, but too often that's exactly how it feels. No more having to stop midway through your campaign to fix something simple. Knack lets you work with your entire team in real time and stops you from having to fix things mid flight. Check them out at knak.com/exit-five/ *** Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production. They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

    47 min

  2. 4 DAYS AGO

    How To Craft A Hook That Grabs Attention Instantly: B2B Marketing Micro-Lesson

    In this episode, we’re delivering another B2B marketing lesson in under 10 minutes—no fluff, just actionable insights. Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, breaks down a core copywriting skill that every marketer needs: crafting a hook that grabs attention right away. Too often, marketers "bury the hook" by failing to get to the point, leaving potential customers scrolling past. Matthew shares the top three elements of a strong hook, why questions don’t work as well as statements, and real-world examples of hooks that have proven to be irresistible. By the end, you’ll know how to create concise, clear, and compelling hooks that keep people engaged from the first word. Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership *** This episode of the Exit Five podcast is brought to you by our friends at Knak.  Launching an email or landing page in your marketing automation platform shouldn't feel like assembling an airplane mid flight with no instructions, but too often that's exactly how it feels. No more having to stop midway through your campaign to fix something simple. Knack lets you work with your entire team in real time and stops you from having to fix things mid flight. Check them out at knak.com/exit-five/ *** Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production. They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

    7 min

  3. 6 DAYS AGO

    #190: Strategy | Doing Marketing in a Sales-Led Organization with Taylor Udell, Head of Growth at Champify

    In this episode, Dave is joined by Taylor Udell, Head of Growth at Champify, a sales intelligence platform that helps B2B sales teams identify key contacts for more effective outreach. With experience at companies like Twilio and Heap, Taylor shares the marketing strategies she’s used to drive growth in sales-led organizations. Dave and Taylor cover: How Champify drives awareness through events, LinkedIn organic, and thought leader adsWhy they stopped doing direct response ads and are seeing better results with high-value content assetsWhy cold calling is an effective channel in Champify's sales-led approachWhy they chose to stop hiring freelancers and agencies and instead opted to build expertise in-houseTimestamps (00:00) - - Intro to Taylor (03:20) - - How to Build Product Awareness (07:54) - - Why Thought Leader Posts Are a Better Approach Than B2B Ads (10:12) - - How To Measure LinkedIn Effectiveness (14:11) - - Areas Where Taylor Hopes to Drive Revenue Growth at Champify (19:07) - - Why Cold Calling Works at Champify (20:50) - - Measuring Success Between Sales and Marketing (22:51) - - Why Champify Stopped Using Direct Response Ads and Is Seeing Better Results with High-Value Content Assets (26:36) - - Driving Higher Intent with Content Assets (28:57) - - Why Champify Stopped Outsourcing Until They Had a Definition of “Good” (31:45) - - Measuring Success Without Gating Content or Generating MQLs (34:37) - - Advice for New Marketing Leaders (38:10) - - Closing Remarks Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership *** This episode of the Exit Five podcast is brought to you by our friends at Knak.  Launching an email or landing page in your marketing automation platform shouldn't feel like assembling an airplane mid flight with no instructions, but too often that's exactly how it feels. No more having to stop midway through your campaign to fix something simple. Knack lets you work with your entire team in real time and stops you from having to fix things mid flight. Check them out at knak.com/exit-five/ *** Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production. They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

    40 min

  4. 31 OCT

    #189: Product Marketing | Are Product Marketers Actually Marketers? with We're Not Marketer's Podcast

    In this episode, Dave is a guest on the We're Not Marketers podcast, hosted by Zach Roberts (Founder of Break Into Product Marketing), Eric Holland (current Product Marketer at Klue), and Gab Bujold (Founder at Press X to Market). They sit down to talk about Dave’s journey in B2B marketing—from marketing manager to CMO—hosting a podcast for B2B marketing, and organizing Exit Five’s first-ever in-person event, Drive in Burlington. Plus, Dave answers one important question: Are product marketers actually marketers? We’re Not Marketers and Dave also cover: One way “frameworks” might hurt your product storytelling.Why you can’t just start a podcast in B2B without this obvious skill?What Dave said is “the most important role in B2B marketing”.Don’t tell sales “what to do”. They almost never listen. Do this instead.Why “messaging by committee” sucks.Good news! The "80% difference" to great B2B marketing, uses two common PMM skills.How can we (product marketers) simplify B2B marketingTimestamps (01:05) - Dave's Journey and Podcasting Tips (05:05) - The Importance of Product Marketing (07:03) - Early Stage Marketing Strategies (14:16) - Building Trust and Influence in Startups (21:11) - Positioning and Messaging Challenges (25:29) - Addressing the Decline in Win Rate (28:23) - Importance of Executing Positioning (28:56) - Casual Conversation and Personal Interests (29:57) - Messaging Torture Chamber (30:30) - Marketing Strategies: Brand vs. Content (32:13) - Event Marketing Insights (33:58) - Simplifying B2B Marketing (37:37) - The Role of Podcasts in B2B Marketing (44:22) - Conclusion and Upcoming Events Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership *** This episode of the Exit Five podcast is brought to you by our friends at Knak.  Launching an email or landing page in your marketing automation platform shouldn't feel like assembling an airplane mid flight with no instructions, but too often that's exactly how it feels. No more having to stop midway through your campaign to fix something simple. Knack lets you work with your entire team in real time and stops you from having to fix things mid flight. Check them out at knak.com/exit-five/ *** Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production. They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

    46 min

  5. 30 OCT

    B2B Marketing Micro-Lesson: How to Drive Urgency—And Why You Can't Fake It

    In this episode, we’re delivering another B2B marketing lesson in under 10 minutes—no fluff, just actionable insights. Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, dives into a fundamental principle every B2B marketer should understand: you can't fake urgency. Real urgency isn’t something you create from thin air - it’s something that’s baked into your go-to-market strategy. Matthew shares examples from Exit Five’s playbook, like driving urgency through limited event tickets and exclusive launch discounts, and explains how to adapt these techniques for any B2B setting.  Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership *** This episode of the Exit Five podcast is brought to you by our friends at Knak.  Launching an email or landing page in your marketing automation platform shouldn't feel like assembling an airplane mid flight with no instructions, but too often that's exactly how it feels. No more having to stop midway through your campaign to fix something simple. Knack lets you work with your entire team in real time and stops you from having to fix things mid flight. Check them out at knak.com/exit-five/ *** Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production. They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

    9 min

  6. 28 OCT

     #188: Drive | What Makes a Great CMO/VP in B2B Marketing: Panel with Peter Mahoney, CCO of GoTO, Amrita Mathur, VP Marketing of Zapier, and Tara Robertson, CMO of Bitly

    This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Dave hosts a marketing leadership panel with Peter Mahoney, CCO of GoTo, Tara Robertson, CMO at Bitly, and Amrita Mathur, Head of Marketing at Zapier. These marketing leaders open up about their experiences and share actionable advice to help you lead, manage, and set goals for your marketing team.  Dave, Peter, Tara, and Amrita cover: Why business literacy is so important for marketing leadersHow to set goals for your marketing teamEach panelists biggest career risks — what worked, and what did notPractical frameworks for managing short-term demands while staying committed to long-term goalsTimestamps (00:00) - - Intro to Peter, Amrita, and Tara (06:14) - - One Piece of Advice for Marketing Leaders (13:42) - - How to Set Goals For Your Team (22:53) - - Framework for Short-Term vs Long-Term Pipeline Goals (25:27) - - Budgeting for Short-Term vs Long-Term Goals (27:57) - - How to Work with a Difficult Counterpart (30:20) - - Panelists’ Biggest Career Risk That Worked (35:05) - - Panelists’ Biggest Career Risk That Did NOT Work (37:41) - - How to Lead your Team When You’re in a Leadership Rut (46:02) - - How to Navigate a New Leadership Role (49:26) - - Making Uncomfortable Decisions as a Leader (52:39) - - Does CEO = CMO? (54:22) - - When to Reconsider Your Strategy (57:47) - - Closing Remarks Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership *** This episode of the Exit Five podcast is brought to you by our friends at Knak.  Launching an email or landing page in your marketing automation platform shouldn't feel like assembling an airplane mid flight with no instructions, but too often that's exactly how it feels. No more having to stop midway through your campaign to fix something simple. Knack lets you work with your entire team in real time and stops you from having to fix things mid flight. Check them out at knak.com/exit-five/ *** Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production. They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

    1h 10m

  7. 24 OCT

    #187: Growth | Why Marketers Need Great RevOps Partners with Sean Lane, Founding Partner at BeaconGTM and RevOps Expert

    In this episode, Dave is joined by Sean Lane, Founding Partner at BeaconGTM and RevOps expert, to talk about scaling RevOps in B2B. With over a decade of experience at Drift and other B2B SaaS companies, Sean shares actionable tips for marketers looking to align operations with business goals. Dave and Sean cover: How to build alignment between sales, marketing, and opsWhy early-stage companies must align operational complexity with their growth maturityHow continuous planning helps marketing and ops teams stay agile as business challenges come upTimestamps (00:00) - - Intro to Sean (06:10) - - Going From Founder Led Sales to Having A Professional GTM (08:51) - - How Ops Bridges Business Goals (12:41) - - How To Align Sales, Marketing, and Operations (16:50) - - Why You Need A Clear Marketing Strategy (19:16) - - How To Build A Partnership Between Marketing and Operations (25:40) - - Guidelines For Long Term vs Short Term Budgeting And Planning (31:55) - - Marketing's Role At The Bottom Of The Funnel (36:50) - - How To Get “Hand-raisers” For Your Product In The Customer Journey (40:42) - - Do Engaged Accounts Measure The Success Of Marketing? (42:32) - - Sean’s Podcast ROI (44:48) - - AI Use Cases In Ops (49:50) - - How To Hire A Good Ops Person (53:18) - - Closing Remarks Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership *** This episode of the Exit Five podcast is brought to you by our friends at Knak.  Launching an email or landing page in your marketing automation platform shouldn't feel like assembling an airplane mid flight with no instructions, but too often that's exactly how it feels. No more having to stop midway through your campaign to fix something simple. Knack lets you work with your entire team in real time and stops you from having to fix things mid flight. Check them out at knak.com/exit-five/ *** Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production. They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

    56 min

  8. 23 OCT

    B2B Marketing Micro-Lesson: Why Every B2B Marketing Email Should Have Just One Call to Action

    In this special episode format, we’re testing out and delivering a B2B marketing lesson in under 10 minutes. No fluff—just practical, real-world insights based on what we’re learning each week here at Exit Five. This solo episode features Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, who discusses a key lesson every B2B marketer needs to know: why every marketing email should have just one call to action.  Matthew shares the psychology behind decision-making, including Hick's Law, decision fatigue, and Fogg’s Behavioral Model, and explains why simplifying your emails can lead to higher conversions. Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership *** This episode of the Exit Five podcast is brought to you by our friends at Knak.  Launching an email or landing page in your marketing automation platform shouldn't feel like assembling an airplane mid flight with no instructions, but too often that's exactly how it feels. No more having to stop midway through your campaign to fix something simple. Knack lets you work with your entire team in real time and stops you from having to fix things mid flight. Check them out at knak.com/exit-five/ *** Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production. They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

    8 min
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Dave Gerhardt (Founder of Exit Five, former CMO) and guests help you grow your career in B2B marketing. Episodes include conversations with CMOs, marketing leaders, and subject matter experts across all aspects of modern B2B marketing: planning, strategy, operations, ABM, demand gen., product marketing, brand, content, social media, and more. Join 4,400+ members in our private community at exitfive.com.

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