Talking Security: Insights from Microsoft Security Experts

Frans Oudendorp

Talking Security is your go-to podcast for everything related to Microsoft Security and DevSecOps. Hosted by Frans Oudendorp and Pouyan Khabazi, we dive deep into topics like Microsoft Defender, Entra, Intune, Zero Trust, identity protection, security automation, and secure development practices. In each episode, we engage with Microsoft MVPs, product team members, and security experts to explore real-world challenges, practical solutions, and the latest innovations across the Microsoft Security ecosystem. We also focus on integrating security into DevOps workflows, ensuring you stay ahead in the ever-evolving world of cybersecurity. 🎙 Hosted by Frans Oudendorp & Pouyan Khabazi 🔐 Focused on Microsoft Security, Identity & DevSecOps 🧠 Made for IT professionals, architects, developers, and decision-makers Subscribe and stay ahead in the ever-evolving world of Microsoft Security and secure cloud-native development.

  1. Identity Security, Entra ID & Innovation: Insights from Eric Woodruff | MVP Security Insights

    2 JUL

    Identity Security, Entra ID & Innovation: Insights from Eric Woodruff | MVP Security Insights

    In this episode of Talking Security – MVP Security Insights, Frans Oudendorp and Pouyan Khabazi sit down with Eric Woodruff—Chief Identity Architect at Semperis and long-time identity expert—to explore his journey from managing Active Directory in the public sector to shaping cutting-edge identity strategies in the cloud era. Eric shares what it means to truly be “in” cybersecurity, the evolving role of Entra ID, and the significance of identity research like the UnOAuthorized project. We also dive into global challenges in identity management, the balance between strong security and business agility, and how community collaboration through IDPro is driving vendor-agnostic progress. Whether you're new to identity or a seasoned expert, this conversation is packed with real-world insights, practical advice, and forward-looking trends shaping the future of identity and access management. ⏱️ Topics include: - Career journey and cybersecurity pivot - Challenges guiding identity strategy at Semperis - Identity research, Entra ID, and privilege paths - Cloud-first learning paths and emerging trends - Balancing airtight security with operational flexibility - Community contributions, hobbies, and staying grounded ⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 – Teaser 00:55 – Intro 01:24 – Introduction of the podcast 07:03 – Eric’s identity journey: From AD in the courts to cybersecurity at Semperis 09:28 – Challenges as Chief Identity Architect: Building identity strategy for SaaS 14:41 – Global identity security challenges: Public vs. private sector insights 19:43 – Research spotlight: The UnOAuthorized project and privilege path exposures 25:00 – App Registrations: Risks, visibility, and best practices 28:00 – Advice for newcomers to Identity Security 30:14 – Can you learn identity with only cloud knowledge? 32:23 – Future of Identity and Access Management: Entra ID, trends, and predictions 37:35 – Balancing airtight identity security with business agility 42:05 – The role of community: IDPro and vendor-neutral collaboration 44:32 – QuickFireFun questions 46:40 – Closing thoughts and takeaways 47:43 – Outro 📌 Subscribe for more expert interviews on identity, security, and modern workplace innovation.

    48 min
  2. 25 Years in Cybersecurity: Insights & Lessons from Stefan Schörling | MVP Security Insights

    11 JUN

    25 Years in Cybersecurity: Insights & Lessons from Stefan Schörling | MVP Security Insights

    In this episode of our MVP Security Insights series, we sit down with Stefan Schörling—a cybersecurity veteran with over 25 years of experience, SANS-certified professional, and Microsoft MVP. 🔍 What you’ll learn in this episode: - His journey from sysadmin to CTO of a cybersecurity-focused MSSP - Hands-on insights into Microsoft Defender XDR and Unified Security Operations (USX) - Balancing fast incident response with deep, automated defense - Real-world security innovations that made a difference - Current trends in threat intelligence and managed security - The value of community collaboration in modern cybersecurity 🎯 Stefan also shares valuable advice for professionals looking to thrive in the Microsoft Security ecosystem. ⏱️ Timestamps: 0:00 Teaser 0:45 Intro 1:15 Introduction of this episode 3:10 Introduction of Stefan 5:23 Monitoring as a foundation 6:42 primary areas of expertise, and the passion for threat intelligence, incident response, and Defender XDR 10:22 Key projects as a CTO 17:55 Global and industry-specific challenges 24:10 Security innovations that drive impact 30:11 Trends shaping the future of security operations 35:32 Advice for starting security professionals 38:36 AI Question.... One tip Stefan would give his younger self 41:26 Why community matters in cybersecurity 46:18 The role of the MVP program 49:13 Personal goals and what drives him 51:12 Quickfire Fun Questions 52:30 Closing of this episode 54:14 Outro 🔔 Subscribe for more interviews with MVPs, security leaders, and Microsoft experts sharing insights from the frontlines. #Cybersecurity #MicrosoftDefender #MVPInsights #XDR #IncidentResponse #ThreatIntelligence #MicrosoftSecurity #StefanSchörling

    55 min
  3. Navigating Zero Trust, AI, and Identity with Michael van Horenbeeck | MVP Security Insights

    21 MAY

    Navigating Zero Trust, AI, and Identity with Michael van Horenbeeck | MVP Security Insights

    In this episode of MVP Security Insights (Season 2, Episode 2), we sit down with Michael van Horenbeeck, Microsoft MVP for 14 consecutive years and renowned expert in identity, cloud security, and compliance. We dive deep into: * His journey into Microsoft Security and MVP life * Top security challenges in regulated industries * The impact of NIS2, ISO 27001, and the speed of change * Trends shaping the future—AI, CoPilot agents, Zero Trust * A fun twist: If Zero Trust were a Krav Maga move… what would it be? * The value of community and staying grounded in a fast-moving world 🔐 Whether you're a seasoned security pro or just stepping into the world of identity and cloud security, this episode is packed with insights you won't want to miss. 👉 Chapters: 00:37 Intro 01:06 Introduction of this episode 03:26 Michael's introduction 06:00 Background & Microsoft MVP journey 08:02 Why focus on identity, cloud security, and compliance? 11:04 Security in regulated sectors 14:15 Regulations & governance challenges 17:53 Speed of change 21:02 Global cybersecurity threats 26:40 Future trends & AI 29:08 CoPilot and phishing defense 34:10 Zero Trust as Krav Maga 37:11 Community & collaboration 40:21 Personal goals & what's next 44:59 Closing this episode 46:04 Outro 🔗 Follow Michael on [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mvanhorenbeeck/] 🎙️ Hosted by Frans Oudendorp and Pouyan Khabazi 📢 Learn more: https://talkingsecurity.nl #MicrosoftMVP #CyberSecurity #ZeroTrust #AI #IdentitySecurity #TalkingSecurity #MVPInsights

    47 min
  4. From Vision to Sentinel: How Microsoft Built the World's Most Beloved Cloud-Native SIEM

    6 MAY

    From Vision to Sentinel: How Microsoft Built the World's Most Beloved Cloud-Native SIEM

    In this special Talking Security episode, recorded live from Microsoft HQ during the MVP Summit, hosts Frans Oudendorp and Pouyan Khabazi sit down with Ofer Shezaf, the mastermind behind Microsoft Sentinel—the first truly cloud-native SIEM. With over 30 years in cybersecurity, Ofer takes us on a journey through the evolution of InfoSec, shares the origin story of Sentinel, and unpacks what it takes to grow a billion-dollar product. From the early days of SIEM to the role of AI in modern detection and response, this episode is packed with insights, strategy, and a few fun stories along the way. Whether you're a seasoned SOC analyst, a cloud architect, or just curious about how Sentinel became a cornerstone of modern cyber defense—this one’s for you. 👉 Topics covered: - Why existing SIEMs weren’t enough—and how Sentinel changed the game - Lessons from building and scaling a $1B+ cybersecurity product - Real vs. perceived risk in product strategy - The role of community and open-source in shaping the future of cyber defense - Ofer’s advice for the next generation of cybersecurity leaders Grab your Favorito drink, and let’s talk security! 🔐

    36 min
  5. Mastering Security in the Cloud Era: Insights from a Microsoft Security MVP

    23 ABR

    Mastering Security in the Cloud Era: Insights from a Microsoft Security MVP

    In the first episode of Season 2 of our MVP Security Insights series on the Talking Security podcast, we explore the ever-evolving landscape of cloud security and delve into practical strategies with our distinguished guest, Microsoft Security MVP Truls Dahlsveen. Truls brings deep expertise in security monitoring, SIEM, and Endpoint Detection and Response (EDR), providing valuable insights gained from real-world experiences. Throughout the episode, we address significant cybersecurity trends, discuss innovative solutions, and highlight the essential role of community engagement in bolstering security practices. Episode Outline: 0:26 - Intro 0:55 - Introduction of this episode 2:10 - Background and Expertise: Truls shares his journey to becoming an MVP and highlights his expertise in cloud security monitoring, SIEM, and EDR solutions. 5:35 - What are your primary areas of expertise within the realm of Microsoft technology and cybersecurity? 7:25 - Tools that are be used in the day job. 9:32 - Blogpost - https://www.infernux.no/5YearsOfSentinel - JOIN CCP - aka.ms/joinccp 12:36 - Current Projects and Focus: Discussing ongoing initiatives and how Microsoft technologies enhance security. 17:18 - How are you leveraging Microsoft technologies to enhance security in your current work? 23:15 - Global and Local Challenges: Examining major cybersecurity challenges globally and locally, including regulatory impacts. 30:30 - Future Trends and Advice: Insights into emerging cybersecurity trends and practical advice for professionals. 36:11 - Community and Collaboration: Importance of community collaboration featuring experiences from HackTheBox and TryHackMe. 42:30 - Question of AI: Creative reflections on cybersecurity roles and ultimate 'power-ups'. 45:18- Personal Insights and Goals: Truls shares his motivations and future objectives. 48:40 - What are your personal or professional goals for the coming period? 50:48 - Closing this episode 52:00 - Outro Join us to gain actionable advice and inspiration from one of the community's leading cybersecurity experts.

    53 min
  6. From CASB to SaaS Security: Tackling OAuth Threats with Microsoft Defender for Cloud Apps

    10 ABR

    From CASB to SaaS Security: Tackling OAuth Threats with Microsoft Defender for Cloud Apps

    In this episode of the Talking Security Podcast, we sit down with Itai Cohen from the Microsoft Defender for Cloud Apps team to explore the evolution of SaaS Security — from the traditional CASB (Cloud Access Security Broker) model to a broader, more proactive security strategy. We cover: Why CASB isn’t enough anymore and what the future of SaaS Security looks likeThe growing threat of OAuth abuse — and why it’s such a hot target for attackersNew innovations from Microsoft like Attack Path Analysis and Advanced Hunting for OAuth threatsHow Exposure Management is helping organizations proactively reduce SaaS risk🎧 Whether you're a security architect, IT decision-maker, or Microsoft 365 enthusiast, this episode will help you rethink how you protect your SaaS environments. 👇 Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share with your network. 📬 Got feedback or topics you'd like us to cover? Let us know in the comments or reach out via TalkingSecurity.nl! Outline of the recording 0:00 - Intro 0:22 - Introduction of this episode 2:05 - Introduction of Itai Cohen - Microsoft 2:29 - What was the original goal of Microsoft Defender for Cloud Apps as a CASB solution? 4:10 - Why is Microsoft adding more capabilities on top of the traditional CASB model towards a broader SaaS Security approach? 6:08 - How do you see today’s SaaS threat landscape compared to when CASB solutions first appeared? 10:11 - Why is OAuth has become such an attractive attack vector? 13:53 - What are typical OAuth attack paths, and how do attackers exploit them? 14:50 - Microsoft blog - https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/microsoftthreatprotectionblog/protect-saas-apps-from-oauth-threats-with-attack-path-advanced-hunting-and-more/4395997-, you announced new capabilities to detect OAuth threats. Can you give us an overview of what’s new? 16:16 - How does Attack Path Analysis help customers better understand and mitigate OAuth risks? 19:10 - Advanced Hunting is now available for OAuth threats — how can security teams leverage this capability? 22:36 - What are some common mistakes you see organizations make when it comes to OAuth permissions and consent management? 26:40 - Exposure Management - How does Microsoft Defender for Cloud Apps contribute to a broader exposure management approach, and how can customers use it 31:47 - How do you see the role of SaaS Security evolving within the wider Exposure Management strategy that Microsoft is building? 33:09 - How does SaaS Security fit into Microsoft’s broader security strategy, alongside Defender XDR and Entra ID? 35:33 - SaaS Security is overlooked? Why? 40:42 - If you weren’t working in security, what would you be doing instead? 42:20 - Closing the episode 43:23 - Outro #SaaSSecurity #MicrosoftDefender #OAuth #CASB #CloudSecurity #TalkingSecurityPodcast

    44 min
  7. Let's Talk March Update: Zero Days, OAuth Attacks, and the Latest in Microsoft Security

    31 MAR

    Let's Talk March Update: Zero Days, OAuth Attacks, and the Latest in Microsoft Security

    Join your hosts Frans Oudendorp and Pouyan Khabazi in this month's episode of "Let's Talk" on the Talking Security podcast. We dive into critical cybersecurity developments from March, including Microsoft's latest Patch Tuesday addressing seven zero-day vulnerabilities (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-march-2025-patch-tuesday-fixes-7-zero-days-57-flaws/), and emerging OAuth app attack campaigns targeting Microsoft 365 accounts (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/fake-security-alert-issues-on-github-use-oauth-app-to-hijack-accounts/, https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/malicious-adobe-docusign-oauth-apps-target-microsoft-365-accounts/). We highlight important updates across Microsoft security solutions, such as Microsoft Defender for Office's improved reporting tools, Defender for Identity's Enhanced Identity Inventory (preview) (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/defender-for-identity/identity-inventory), and Defender for Cloud Apps' new RBAC scoping for behaviors (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/defender-cloud-apps/manage-admins, https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/defender-cloud-apps/behaviors). We also discuss the new GA release of on-demand malware scanning in Defender for Storage, capable of scanning blobs up to 50 GB, and introduce the preview of the Defender for Cloud Cost Calculator. Stay informed with our community spotlight featuring Rod Trent's Security Copilot prompts (https://github.com/rod-trent/Security-Copilot/tree/main/Prompts/Workshop), and get your calendars ready for upcoming industry events, including the Swiss Microsoft Security Summit, ExpertsLive 2025, Microsoft Secure, and RSAC. Plus, tune in for a fun geeky trivia about the first-ever internet domain! Stay vigilant, stay informed, and let's talk security!

    32 min
  8. 🔒Let's Talk Security - Feb 2025 Update | Safer Internet Day, Defender XDR, DeepSeek Data Leak & More

    17 FEB

    🔒Let's Talk Security - Feb 2025 Update | Safer Internet Day, Defender XDR, DeepSeek Data Leak & More

    Welcome to another episode of "Talking Security - Let's Talk!" 🚀 This month, we bring you the latest cybersecurity updates, breaking news, and expert insights to keep you informed and ahead of threats. 🔹 Topics in this episode: ✅ Safer Internet Day 2025 – Promoting a safer online world for everyone ✅ DeepSeek Database Leak – Exposing sensitive chat history & backend data ✅ Defender for Endpoint & Office – New reporting and security enhancements ✅ Defender for Identity – Improved attack path visibility & security updates ✅ Microsoft Sentinel Updates – New features & integrations for threat intelligence ✅ Community Spotlight – A new detection engine to protect the Netherlands - https://Threathunters.nl ✅ Event Roundup – The must-attend cybersecurity events of 2025 - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/blog/2025/02/03/hear-from-microsoft-security-experts-at-these-top-cybersecurity-events-in-2025/ ✅ Geeky Fun Fact – The first computer virus & its creators 📢 Join the discussion! Want to be part of our monthly recordings? Fill out the form on - https://forms.office.com/e/DhYZzQ8t6z 👍 Like, share, and subscribe for more cybersecurity insights! 🔔 Turn on notifications so you never miss an update! 💬 What are your thoughts on this month's cybersecurity updates? Drop a comment below! ⬇️ #CyberSecurity #MicrosoftDefender #LetsTalkSecurity #ThreatHunting #MicrosoftSentinel #DataLeak #SIEM #SecurityUpdates

    41 min
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Talking Security is your go-to podcast for everything related to Microsoft Security and DevSecOps. Hosted by Frans Oudendorp and Pouyan Khabazi, we dive deep into topics like Microsoft Defender, Entra, Intune, Zero Trust, identity protection, security automation, and secure development practices. In each episode, we engage with Microsoft MVPs, product team members, and security experts to explore real-world challenges, practical solutions, and the latest innovations across the Microsoft Security ecosystem. We also focus on integrating security into DevOps workflows, ensuring you stay ahead in the ever-evolving world of cybersecurity. 🎙 Hosted by Frans Oudendorp & Pouyan Khabazi 🔐 Focused on Microsoft Security, Identity & DevSecOps 🧠 Made for IT professionals, architects, developers, and decision-makers Subscribe and stay ahead in the ever-evolving world of Microsoft Security and secure cloud-native development.

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