Under the Surface Smithy and Marvin Sordell

For the launch of Season 4, host Smithy is joined by Peter Dale, better known as Tubes to millions of fans from his work on Soccer AM. This season, we're on the road, and for episode one, our journey takes us to a place pivotal to Tubes' personal battle against addiction—his home golf course at Foxhills.
Despite his fun-loving on-screen persona, Tubes candidly opens up about his past struggles with alcohol addiction. He shares how drinking gave him the confidence boost he craved but soon spiralled out of control, negatively impacting on his relationships.
Tubes paints an unfiltered picture of life as a "functioning alcoholic"—planning his days around drinking, lying to loved ones, and feeling intense shame and anxiety. He discusses his turning point in 2015, when a traumatic incident forced him to admit he was an alcoholic and needed to quit for good. 
During his recovery journey, Tubes experienced a shocking heart attack due to a previously undetected hole in his heart.
Now, over eight years sober, Tubes has replaced alcohol with a new passion—golf. He explains how the game has given him purpose, healthier coping mechanisms, and a new career post-Soccer AM. 
Join us as we go #UnderTheSurface with Tubes for an intimate, inspiring discussion about addiction, recovery, and advice for those facing the same battles that Tubes once did.

Comedian, Actor and TV Host Romesh Ranganathan is the first guest for the new season, produced by Original Penguin and Campaign Against Living Miserably (CALM).
Romesh joined hosts Smithy (Sky Sports) and Marvin Sordell, a fellow CALM ambassador and former footballer, to discuss his own personal struggles with depression and grief.
The BAFTA-winning performer spoke about how his upbringing and a series of setbacks led him to experience depression and suicidal thoughts during his late teens and early twenties. He went on to discuss how he has since found help through talking and therapy, which has helped him manage those reoccurring thoughts.

In this latest episode of Under The Surface, we talk to former professional footballer turned TV star Ashley Cain, who bravely opens up on how he's dealing with the tragic loss of his 8-month-old daughter Azaylia, to cancer two years ago.
In this powerful new episode of the third series, hosts Smithy and Marvin Sordell talk to Ashley about Azaylia's diagnosis, her care, the support from his social community and her tragic passing. Along with coping mechanisms for his daily struggle with grief and loss.
The Under The Surface podcast brings together people from the world of sport and entertainment to discuss mental health. The latest series launched with BAFTA-winning comedian Romesh Ranganathan who discussed his own struggles with depression and grief.

In this latest episode of Under The Surface, we talk to Jack Fincham, the winner of Love Island 2018 and current British boxer who bravely discusses his battles with anxiety from an early age, as well as his struggles since winning the hit ITV show.
In the third episode of the new series, Smithy is joined by a new co-host, former Premier League footballer and boxer Leon McKenzie. Guest Jack Fincham opens up to Smithy and Leon about his struggles with panic attacks, grief, career mistakes and money struggles since his Love Island win.


The Under The Surface podcast brings together people from the world of sport and entertainment to discuss mental health. The latest series launched with BAFTA-winning comedian Romesh Ranganathan who discussed his own struggles with depression and grief. In addition, the show has featured the likes of Jack Wilshere, Ashley Cain, James Haskell and Andros Townsend.

In this latest episode of Under The Surface, host Smithy and co-host Leon McKenzie are joined by Danny Cipriani, the English rugby union player who bravely discusses his lifelong struggles with acceptance and mental health.


Danny opens up about the difficulties surrounding his upbringing and troublesome teenage years where he felt like an outsider in the rugby world. He shares his battles with depression, suicidal thoughts and the tragic loss of close friend Caroline Flack.

Despite his talents on the pitch, Danny faced constant scrutiny from the media and public, which took a major toll on his mental health. However, through therapy and self-work, he has found greater acceptance and inner peace.


Danny hopes that by sharing his deeply personal story, he can help end the stigma around men's mental health and inspire others who may be silently suffering to reach out for support.

Previous episodes have included BAFTA-winning comedian Romesh Ranganathan, footballers Jack Wilshere and Andros Townsend, reality stars Jack Fincham and Ashley Cain, who have all openly discussed their mental health struggles.

For the latest release, host Smithy and co-host Leon McKenzie are joined by Jack Dean, better known as JaackMaate to his millions of social followers.
Despite his meteoric social media fame, Jack candidly shares his lifelong struggles with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) and anxiety. He opens up about his traumatic childhood filled with family turmoil, and how creating YouTube videos became his lifeline. 
Jack paints an unfiltered picture of living with severe OCD, including constant intrusive thoughts from health anxiety that disrupt his life daily. By speaking openly about his coping methods, from therapy to talking to mates, he hopes to help others suffering in silence feel less alone.
Previous episodes have included BAFTA-winning comedian Romesh Ranganathan, footballers Jack Wilshere and Andros Townsend, reality stars Jack Fincham and Ashley Cain, who have all openly discussed their mental health struggles.