Walking With Dante Mark Scarbrough

Dante and Virgil make haste across the second terrace of Purgatory before they're accosted by disembodied voices, calling them to the banquet of love.
Sounds great, right? Except there's so much alienation in the landscape and even in the poetry.
Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we take our first steps onto the second terrace of PURGATORIO with Dante and Virgil.
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Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE:
[01:19] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIII, lines 22 - 45. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation, please visit my website, markscarbrough.com.
[03:54] Three disembodied voices on the second terrace of PURGATORIO: quotes from the Virgin Mary, Orestes (maybe?), and Jesus.
[13:25] Voices moving from the left, not right!
[15:26] Envy: a root sin, sometimes seen as the primary sin, even by Dante.
[18:59] The schematics of Purgatory, as intuited by Virgil.
[22:03] Disembodied voices and the problem of alienation.
[26:28] The distance (and alienation) between Dante and Virgil.
[32:36] A rereading of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIII, lines 22 - 45.

Dante the pilgrim and his guide, Virgil, have arrived at the second terrace of Purgatory proper. As readers, we're not even sure what this terrace is about, although we can infer there must be more penitents ahead.
Instead, Dante the poet offers us rather straightforward, naturalistic details, a complex neologism (a new word he coined), a crazy line that has many interpretations possible, and then a pagan prayer in the afterlife of the redeemed.
Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we walk into the second terrace and immediately stumble over what at first glance looks like a fairly simple passage. That's why we're slow-walking across Dante's known universe!
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Here are the segments of this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE:
[01:09] My English translation of PURGATORIO, Canto XIII, lines 1- 21. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation with me, please go to my website, markscarbrough.com.
[03:22] The naturalistic, straightforward details complete with a surprising neologism (or newly coined word).
[08:12] A deeply ambiguous line smack in the middle of rather simple details.
[12:02] Virgil's haste and his internalization of Cato's ethic, as well as Dante's increasingly complicated relationship with the old poet.
[15:29] Virgil's pagan prayer to the sun.
[23:40] My take: Virgil, the pagan, makes a full appearance here on the second terrace of Purgatory.
[29:02] Virgil, blinded.
[31:42] A rereading of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIII, lines 1 - 21.

Before we step onto PURGATORIO's terrace of envy, the second ledge of Purgatory proper, let's pause a moment to talk about the relationship among Dante, Aquinas, and Aristotle.
We have to take this detour because Dante will increasingly incorporate scientific reasoning into his poem, changing its very nature, based on his understanding of Aristotle, which is in turn based on the work of Islamic and Jewish scholars from the Iberian caliphates.
Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we look at this complicated history of thought and how it finally lands in COMEDY.
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Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE:
[01:46] The collapse of the Umayyad caliphate and the inception of the Iberian schools of learning.
[07:33] The discomfort with Aristotle at the University of Paris.
[14:33] Classical Greek leaning and the disruption and/or incorporation into medieval Christianity.
[17:30] If God is the author of all truth, then how does any truth whatsoever show up in the works of a pagan philosopher?
[21:10] How does inductive truth make any sense in a deductive religion?
[25:38] COMEDY is changing from an allegorical journey of a soul across the known universe to a poetic compendium of known truth.

We've come with Dante the pilgrim and Virgil, his guide, to the second terrace of Purgatory, the terrace of envy.
Join me, Mark Scarbrough, for this initial read-through of the terrace, beginning at the first line of PURGATORIO, Canto XIII, and extending to line 84 of PURGATORIO, Canto XV.
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Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE:
[01:54] A read-through of the second terrace of Purgatory proper: PURGATORIO, Canto XIII, Line 1, through Canto XV, Line 84.
[24:37] Initial questions for the terrace of envy.

Dante the pilgrim and Virgil have a little ways to go before they finally exit the terrace of pride. In fact, Dante has to come to a surprising revelation: It's getting easier. And Virgil has to explain why: Desire is being purified. How? By erasing what God has written.
Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we look at the interpretive dilemmas and philosophical quagmires of the final moments on the terrace of pride, the first of the terraces of Purgatory proper in Dante's PURGATORIO.
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Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE:
[01:12] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XII, lines 118 - 139. If you'd like to read along or drop a comment to continue the conversation, please go to my website, markscarbrough.com.
[03:36] The climb in hell and in Purgatory both involve the notion of a throat.
[06:44] Pride is the primary sin and delight is the primary motivation forward. But has it always been this way in COMEDY?
[12:57] Canto XII ends on a light-hearted note . . . perhaps for poetic reasons.
[16:32] First hard question: Is Dante the pilgrim truly expunged of pride?
[19:51] Second hard question: Has Dante the poet moved the fence of his world to include himself in his own schematics?
[24:56] Third hard question: Why does God's writing have to be erased?
[30:53] Rereading the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XII, lines 118 - 139.

Dante and Virgil begin their climb from the first to the second terrace of Purgatory but as they do, they climb up in an incredibly contorted and difficult simile that swaps around emotional landscapes before landing them in the song of Jesus's beatitudes as well as the screams of hell.
Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we explore the climb out in this most difficult simile.
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Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE:
[01:42] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XII, lines 100 - 117. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation with me, please go to my website: markscarbrough.com.
[03:18] The giant simile about the staircase up to San Miniato al Monte and to the second terrace of Purgatory.
[08:50] Four reasons why this simile is so difficult (and perhaps contorted).
[13:29] The body/soul problem once again that ends with the first of the beatitudes.
[15:50] The inescapable landscape of hell.
[19:23] Rereading the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XII, lines 100 - 117.