Trinity Forum Conversations

The Trinity Forum

Trinity Forum Conversations is a podcast exploring the big questions in life by looking to the best of the Christian intellectual tradition and elevating the voices, both ancient and modern, who grapple with these questions and direct our hearts to the Author of the answers. We invite you to join us in one of the great joys of life: a conversation among friends on the things that matter most.

  1. Story, Culture, & the Common Good with Marilynne Robinson

    26 AUG

    Story, Culture, & the Common Good with Marilynne Robinson

    Our Summer 2025 series, Beside Still Waters, focuses on the places where creativity brings life into a world fatigued by brokenness and division. From jazz to Jane Austen and in between, this season we’re focusing on the ways literature and the arts can refresh and challenge our inner lives—and connect us with the Creator of the good, the true, and the beautiful. Today’s episode concludes our summer series. Our guide today is the acclaimed writer Marilynne Robinson, author of the Gilead series, and much else.  In this episode, originally an Online Conversation recorded in 2020, Marilynne reflects on the art of writing as a means of exploring truth and engaging questions around learning to live well, to love others, and to create a home and community, in our fractious world: “The unique brilliance of a human being … is something that we tend utterly to disparage, demean, utterly fail to notice … every person lives out a [life] beautiful, complicated, inaccessible to other consciousnesses. And it is sacred.” And if this conversation resonates with you, consider joining the Trinity Forum community as a member, at ttf.org. You can find the full video of this conversation there too. Marilynne Robinson's Novels | Housekeeping, Gilead, Home, Lila, Jack, Reading Genesis Article in Breaking Ground from our event. Authors and books mentioned in the conversation: Marcel Proust Ralph Waldo Emmerson Paul Harding Walt Witman William Faulkner John Calvin Jonathan Edwards Moby Dick, by Herman Mellville Piers Plowman, by William Langland Related Trinity Forum Readings: Sacred and Profane Love | A Trinity Forum Reading by John Donne Bulletins from Immortality | A Trinity Forum Reading by Emily Dickinson Confessions | A Trinity Forum Reading by Saint Augustine Brave New World | A Trinity Forum Reading by Aldous Huxley   Marilynne Robinson is a novelist, essayist, and teacher, one of the most renowned and revered of living writers. Her novels Housekeeping, Gilead, Lila, and Home have been variously honored with the Pulitzer Prize, National Books Critics Circle Award (twice), a Hemingway Foundation Award, an Orange Prize, The Library of Congress Prize for American Fiction, and the Ambassador Book Award. She's also the author of many essays and non-fiction works, including her work, “Mother Country”, and her essay collections, “Death of Adam,” “Absence of Mind,” “When I was a Child I Read Books,” “The Givenness of Things,” and “What Are We Doing Here?”. She's the recipient of the National Humanities Medal and an elected fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. In addition to her writing has spent over 20 years teaching at the Iowa Writers Workshop, as well as several universities.

    38 min
  2. Creativity, Reconciliation, and Flourishing

    19 AUG

    Creativity, Reconciliation, and Flourishing

    Our Summer 2025 series, Beside Still Waters, focuses on the places where creativity brings life into a world fatigued by brokenness and division. From jazz to Jane Austen and in between, this season we’ll focus on the ways literature and the arts can refresh and challenge our inner lives—and connect us with the Creator of the good, the true, and the beautiful. Guided by theologian and musician David Bailey and concert pianist and chamber musician Mia Chung, this episode explores the concept that music involves mutual support, balance, and give and take among musicians to create a cohesive experience. And we reflect on how Christian communities can apply these principles of collaboration and harmony to create faith communities that are transformative: To the extent that the arts can actually cultivate that practice of incorporating the right hemisphere and in communication with the left, it's always together, you know, they're, complimentary. I think we can benefit each other in terms of community formation, but even benefit our own intellectual lives and the amount of joy we experience living in this world. - Mia Chung If this work resonates with you, please consider joining the Trinity Forum community as a society member. This podcast is an edited version of our Online Conversation recorded in June, 2024. You can access the full conversation with transcript here. Learn more about Mia Chung and David Bailey. Episode Outline 00:00 Introduction to Trinity Forum Conversations 00:34 Exploring Music and Christian Community 01:36 Cherie Harder on Cultural Challenges 02:55 Welcoming David Bailey and Mia Chung 04:41 David Bailey's Musical Journey 06:56 Mia Chung's Musical Formation 10:44 The Role of Arts in Reconciliation 13:19 The Power of Music in Community Building 23:17 Reintegration and Reconciliation at MIT 28:52 Challenges and Practices for Reconciliation 30:10 Digital Discipleship and Secular Influence 30:44 The Importance of Fasting and Listening 32:33 Engaging Differently as Followers of Jesus 33:28 The Role of Technology in Information Consumption 34:18 Post-COVID Convening and Empathetic Listening 37:25 The Power of Music and Emotional Expression 40:04 Silence and Contemplative Practices 44:43 Artistic Collaboration and Reconciliation 51:19 Final Thoughts and Encouragement Authors and books mentioned in the conversation: Arrabon: Learning Reconciliation Through Community & Worship Music, by David Bailey Related Trinity Forum Readings:Hannah and Nathan, by Wendell BerryPainting as a Pastime, by Winston ChurchillThe Four Quartets, by TS EliotLetters from Vincent Van GoghSpirit and Imagination, selections from Samuel Taylor ColeridgeWhy Work?, by Dorothy SayersThe Loss of the University, featuring the works of Wendell Berry and Jacques Maritain To listen to this or any of our episodes in full, visit ttf.org/podcast and to join the Trinity Forum Society and help make content like this possible, join the Trinity Forum Society.

    53 min
  3. Words Against Despair with Christian Wiman

    12 AUG

    Words Against Despair with Christian Wiman

    Our Summer 2025 series, Beside Still Waters, focuses on the places where creativity brings life into a world fatigued by brokenness and division. From jazz to Jane Austen and in between, this season we’ll focus on the ways literature and the arts can refresh and challenge our inner lives—and connect us with the Creator of the good, the true, and the beautiful. Our guest this episode is the poet Christian Wiman, a master of the written – and spoken – word. After long wandering, he returned to the Christian faith in which he’d been raised, in part because of a terminal cancer diagnosis – one he has now long outlived. Both before and after his diagnosis, and his return to faith, his experience of despair has fueled his powerful poetry. In grappling with it, Christian uses words in ways that are a tonic against despair. “I deal with despair because…I don’t know how not to, and it would be an evasion not to. And I think if you don’t feel it, then you’re not paying attention.” This podcast is drawn from an online conversation from 2024. We hope this conversation will resonate with you as you explore the good, the true, and the beautiful in your own corner of creation.  If it does, please consider joining the Trinity Forum community as a member, at ttf.org. You can find the full video of this conversation there too. And while you’re here, please subscribe to this podcast on your chosen platform. Authors and books mentioned in the conversation: Zero at the Bone: Fifty Entries Against Despair, by Christian Wiman Marilynne Robinson Danielle Chapman William Bronk William Wordsworth Every Riven Thing, by Christian Wiman My Bright Abyss: Meditations of a Modern Believer, by Christian Wiman Prayer, by Carol Ann Duffy The Bible and Poetry, by Michael Edwards  Augustine of Hippo Bittersweet, by George Herbert Surprised by Joy, by C.S. Lewis Richard Wilbur Jürgen Moltmann When the Time’s Toxins, by Christian Wiman Related Trinity Forum Readings: Augustine’s Confessions Devotions by John Donne, paraphrased by Philip Yancey God’s Grandeur: the Poems of Gerard Manley Hopkins Bulletins from Immortality, by Emily Dickinson Wrestling with God, by Simone Weil Related Conversations:Connecting Spiritual Formation & Public Life with Michael WearThe Kingdom, the Power & The Glory with Tim AlbertaA Life Worth Living with Miroslav VolfTowards a Better Christian PoliticsChristian Pluralism: Living Faithfully in a World of DifferenceWhat Really Matters with Charlie Peacock and Andi AshworthScripture and the Public Square How to be a Patriotic Christian Life, Death, Poetry & Peace with Philip Yancey The Fall, the Founding, and the Future of American Democracy Fear and Conspiracy with David French To listen to this or any of our episodes in full, visit ttf.org/podcast and to help make content like this possible, join the Trinity Forum Society.

    33 min
  4. Spiritual Formation Through our Imaginations

    5 AUG

    Spiritual Formation Through our Imaginations

    In this Trinity Forum Conversation, author Lanta Davis, along with special guest host and Trinity Forum Senior Fellow Jessica Hooten Wilson, delve into the power of imagination and its role in our spiritual formation. The discussion centers on Davis's book Becoming by Beholding, which explores Christian imagination through art, literature, and historical practices. These friends and scholars discuss the transformative potential of engaging with sacred art, the virtues, and traditional practices like Lectio Divina: "In Jesus's parables ... He's constantly showing us that there's more hidden behind the surface than we think. The mustard seed is not just a mustard seed. Yeast is not just yeast ... Jesus shows us heavenly meanings ... This is what the incarnation helps us understand, that the divine is not just up above. It's all around us. It's here and now. That when God became matter, all the material world changed because of it." We hope this conversation will resonate with you as you explore the good, the true, and the beautiful in your own corner of creation.  This podcast is an edited version of our Online Conversation recorded in March 2025. You can access the full conversation with transcript here. Learn more about Lanta Davis and Jessica Hooten Wilson. Episode Outline 00:00 Welcome and Introduction 04:47 Exploring the Power of Imagination 05:37 The Concept of Becoming by Beholding 07:46 Living in an Enchanted World 10:53 Tradition and the Logic of Eternity 13:49 Orthodoxy, Orthopraxy, and Orthopathy 17:22 The Role of Icons and Medieval Bestiaries 23:25 Lectio Divina and Imaginative Prayer 27:20 Virtues and Vices: A Deeper Look 30:38 Understanding Virtue and Its Historical Context 31:37 The Practicality of Virtue Personifications 32:32 Teaching Virtues in Everyday Life 33:50 Exploring Courage Through Art 36:30 Incorporating Virtue in Contemporary Art 38:15 Imagination and Its Role in Understanding Reality 45:28 Scripture, Culture, and the Fruits of the Spirit 49:49 Global Christian Art and Imagination 51:34 Resources for Teaching and Engaging with Art 54:46 Travel and Exploration of Christian Art 56:33 Desire, Trust, and Identity in Modern Culture 59:39 The Last Word with Lanta Davis Authors and books mentioned in the conversation: Becoming by Beholding, by Lanta DavisJessica Hooten WilsonRalph C. WoodIn the Beauty of Holiness, by David Lyle JeffreyLuke Ferriter“Hurrahing in Harvest”, by ​​Gerard Manley HopkinsFour Quartets, by T. S. EliotOrthodoxy, by G. K. ChestertonFlannery O’ConnorGrace HammondOn Reading Well: Finding the Good Life Through Great Books, by Karen Swallow PriorAlan NobleA Secular Age, by Charles TaylorDorothy SayersThe Divine Comedy, by Dante AlighieriJames K.A. SmithKristin Lavransdatter, by Sigrid UndsetJohn DonneSamuel Taylor ColeridgeJohann Wolfgang von Goethe Related Trinity Forum Readings:Kristin Lavransdatter, by Sigrid UndsetSpirit and Imagination: Reflections from Samuel Taylor ColeridgeThe Strangest Story in the World, by G.K. Chesterton

    53 min
  5. Beauty, Music, and Spiritual Formation with Keith and Kristyn Getty

    29 JUL

    Beauty, Music, and Spiritual Formation with Keith and Kristyn Getty

    Our Summer 2025 series, Beside Still Waters, focuses on the places where creativity brings life into a world fatigued by brokenness and division. From jazz to Jane Austen and in between, this season we’ll focus on the ways literature and the arts can refresh and challenge our inner lives—and connect us with the Creator of the good, the true, and the beautiful.In this episode, our guides are modern hymn writers Keith and Kristyn Getty. Back in 2019, we hosted a live Evening Conversation in which they explored the ways in which music can speak to our spiritual hunger and shape our sense of beauty, truth, and purpose:  "Our singing doesn't just affect each one of us. We are a witness to the world around us. When we sing, we are always a witness." We hope this conversation will resonate with you as you explore the good, the true, and the beautiful in your own corner of creation.  If it does, please consider joining the Trinity Forum community as a member, at ttf.org. You can find the full video of this conversation there too. And while you’re here, please subscribe to this podcast on your chosen platform.  Learn more about the Gettys.   Watch our Evening Conversation.   Authors, artists, and books mentioned in the conversation: Peter Kreeft The Republic, by Plato Damon of Athens Sing: How Worship Transforms your Life, Family, and Church, by Keith and Kristyn Getty Unwearied Praises: Exploring Christian Faith Through Classic Hymns, by Dr. Jeff Greenman The Pedagogy of Praise, by Dr. Jeff Greenman John Lennox Lucy Shaw Eugene Peters J.I. Packer Martin Luther Leonard Bernstein Amy Carmichael Cecil Frances Alexander Os Guinness Charles Spurgeon Lloyd Jones D.L. Moody   Related Trinity Forum Readings: Handel’s Messiah   Related Conversations: Waiting on the Word with Malcolm Guite Poetry & Beauty in Solitude with Dana Gioia

    45 min
  6. Reading Jane Austen: A Novel Approach to Virtue

    22 JUL

    Reading Jane Austen: A Novel Approach to Virtue

    Our Summer 2025 series, Beside Still Waters, focuses on the places where creativity brings life into a world fatigued by brokenness and division. From jazz to Jane Austen and in between, this season we’ll focus on the ways literature and the arts can refresh and challenge our inner lives—and connect us with the Creator of the good, the true, and the beautiful. In this episode, our focus is Jane Austen, and our guide is Karen Swallow Prior, one of our Trinity Forum Senior Fellows. Karen explores the faith-informed perspective on virtue that Austen’s novels reflect: "Underneath the surface [Austen] is inviting us to look at our own interactions with one another, our own misperceptions, and misreadings, and I think that’s really why her work has remained so endearing to us today; because she reveals the truths of our human condition that never change, and that we’re always wrestling with." Jane Austen’s world and concerns seem distant from ours. Yet across the centuries, she illuminates the importance of the seemingly mundane, and the path towards repaired and rightly ordered relationships.  If this work resonates with you, consider joining the Trinity Forum community as a member, at ttf.org. This episode is drawn from an online conversation held in 2021. You can find the full video of this conversation here. And while you’re here, please subscribe to this podcast. Authors and books mentioned in the conversation: Pride and Prejudice, Sense and Sensibility,   by Jane AustenAmusing Ourselves to Death, by Neil PostmanPraying with Jane, by Rachel Dodge  Alasdair MacIntyreWilliam Shakespeare Related Trinity Forum Readings: Pride and Prejudice, a Trinity Forum Reading by Jane AustenBulletins from Immortality, a Trinity Forum Reading by Emily DickinsonRevelation, a Trinity Forum Reading by Flannery O’Connor God's Grandeur , a Trinity Forum Reading by Gerard Manley Hopkins

    41 min
  7. The Inklings, Creativity, and Community with Diana Glyer

    15 JUL

    The Inklings, Creativity, and Community with Diana Glyer

    Our Summer 2025 series, Beside Still Waters, focuses on the places where creativity brings life into a world fatigued by brokenness and division. From jazz to Jane Austen and in between, this season we’ll focus on the ways literature and the arts can refresh and challenge our inner lives—and connect us with the Creator of the good, the true, and the beautiful. Today’s guide is the author and professor Diana Glyer. She’ll be talking about the lives and work of C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, and their beloved community known as the Inklings. In this episode drawn from an online conversation held in February of 2021, Diana focuses on how creativity thrives within small clusters of like-hearted people. We hope you enjoy reflecting on the potential of your own friendships and communities to be culture-shaping.   Authors and books mentioned in the conversation: The Company They Keep: C. S. Lewis and J. R. R. Tolkien as Writers in Community, by Diana Glyer Bandersnatch: C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, and the Creative Collaboration of the Inklings, by Diana Glyer The Lord of the Rings, by J.R.R. Tolkien Charles Williams C.S. Lewis Shakespeare Owen Barfield Hugo Dyson Out of the Silent Planet, by C.S. Lewis Jerry Root The Weight of Glory, by C.S. Lewis   Related Trinity Forum Readings: On Friendship, by Cicero The Golden Key, by George MacDonald The Oracle of the Dog, by G.K. Chesterton The Lost Tools of Learning, by Dorothy Sayers   Related Conversations: Suffering, Friendship, and Courage: What Lewis & Tolkien Teach Us About Resilience & Imagination, an Online Conversation with Joe Loconte

    49 min

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Trinity Forum Conversations is a podcast exploring the big questions in life by looking to the best of the Christian intellectual tradition and elevating the voices, both ancient and modern, who grapple with these questions and direct our hearts to the Author of the answers. We invite you to join us in one of the great joys of life: a conversation among friends on the things that matter most.

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