The Deep End Pool Podcast The Deep End

Frank and Jacque discuss different ways to cool your pool in the summer heat and thoughts on choosing a pool service company. In the last segment they discuss Frank's opinion of a couple of the popular automated cleaners available.


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00:00 Introduction


11:48 pool water temperatures coming up quickly in North Texas due to higher humidity reducing evaporation, which is heat loss.


13:55 pool chillers, evaporative chiller from Glacier, and heatpump chillers from Aquacal and other manufacturers.


15:35 Evaporative chillers use a system to expedite evaporation, which is heat loss.


16:35 Waterfalls and deck jets also help chill pool water, especially if run at night. Do not replace daytime filter cycles.


21:25 Heat pump chillers use refrigerant, like an A/C unit, to remove heat from the water and release it into the atmosphere.


23:55 Pool service. different levels of service available and different ways companies operate.


47:02 Frank's opinion on Polaris vs Maytronics Dolphin

Frank and Jacque discuss preventing and killing algae in swimming pools. As the water warms up and pools are getting used more, algae is becoming more of a problem.


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00:00 Intro


06:00 evaporation is heat loss, helps cool water. High humidity reduces evaporation and water heats faster. Many forms of algae like warmer water.


07:35 Avoid putting flower beds around pools or any landscaping that may wash into the pool. This puts nutrients in the water that algae need to live. 


10:35 Phosphates is algae food.


10:50 debris in the water, diluting water with heavy rains, filters getting dirty due to wash-in, all help contribute to algae growth.


11:41 nearby natural water sources, heavy foliage over the pool, close by golf courses, all may contribute nutrients to the pool that feed algae.


12:00 algae is also airborne and can always get into outdoor pools. it may also be introduced by insects and animals coming from natural water sources.


14:15 Tap water may be treated with phosphates


14:48 Rough plaster and surfaces in your pool give algae protection from currents and chemicals. Algae likes calm water.


15:45 Algae can double every three to four hours


15:55 Rough and jagged natural stones in water give algae-protected areas to create a colony.


22:10 brushing is critical in helping to minimize algae.


24:45 footwells in spas are frequently colonized by algae due to poor circulation.


26:50 Poor circulation on tanning ledges, along with water being heated quicker on tanning ledges, promote algae growth.


28:30 Chorine is one of the best algaecides.


03:25 Lower pH makes chlorine more active and effective. This can be problematic in salt pools that tend to run pH up. Algae will cause pH to rise, creating a better environment for the algae.


35:00 good filtration helps control algae


36:30 Chlorine is a good way to eliminate green algae. clean the filter, filter and circulate 24/7 until algae is eradicated. balance water. increase free chlorine to 30 ppm. brush brush brush


42:20 Mustard algae is more difficult to kill than green algae. Sodium bromide can help kill mustard algae, but do not overuse sodium bromide in a chlorine pool. BlueRay XL or metal algaecides are effective with mustard algae. cannot use sodium bromide with salt systems, UV, or ozone. Manage metal levels when using metal-based algaecides. Use CULATOR sequestrants and metal remover to manage metals. 


48:20 ammonium sulfates can work to manage algae. Frank is not a fan. It can mess up chlorine residual for extended periods.


50:00 black algae is a cyanobacteria. difficult to kill. can get bad enough that you have to drain and chlorine wash if doable on your pool. scrub with chlorine tab. BlueRay XL helps manage black algae.


52:00 Controlling phosphate levels will help you manage algae. Phosphate removers require more frequent filter cleanings and/or backwashing.


54:20 borates help slow the growth of algae.

Always one of our favorite episodes, Frank and Jacque discuss how to deal with some of the insects and animals in and around your pool and equipment.


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00:00 introduction


07:25 Frank got bit by a dog


09:04 always look into your skimmer before you put your hand in.


10:00 Frank's injury resulting from a bullfrog in a skimmer.


11:00 skimmer baskets and attachments that allow you to empty the basket without getting your hand in the water. SkimPro, FlowSkim, and Skimmer Angel. Skim Pro and Flowskim allow flow through skimmer even when there is a lot of debris in the basket.


14:29 Frog Log, allows insects and small animals to exit the pool.


19:40 story of 3 baby opossums in a skimmer


20:50 The food chain for animals is a major cause of why different animals come to your backyard.


23:10 Cats do a great job keeping snakes away.


27:40 pool lights and other lights around the pool area will draw insects. Insects draw animals and other insects that eat those bugs. Animals follow their food.


29:22 plants and oils to keep snakes away. Cinnamon plant, onions, garlic, lemongrass, marigolds, mother-in-law's tongue


32:10 Mice and rats get in pool heater cabinets. 37:00 moth balls in heater cabinets, not in the burn chamber, will keep mice and rats from nesting. Rats and mice are very destructive.


33:15 rats in heater story.


35:40 use care and protection to protect yourself when cleaning up rat nests.


37:45 moth balls also repel lizards. lizards are known to short out circuit boards and jam up gears in heaters and control systems.


40:30 s.Make sure to use non-conductive and non-flammable wasp and insect sprays near electrical components.


41:20 wasp traps to catch and eliminate wasps.


44:40 keep ducks away from your pool. they track algae from natural water sources. Duck poop causes a lot of issues for water chemistry and plaster. Prevention: string things over the pool area, enzymes, Duck Off.


49:20 Raccoon poop is known to have deadly roundworm larvae in it that chlorine cannot kill. raccoons will pool in your pool. Bright motion sensor lights will help repel raccoons. Sprinklers may also help.


51:10 Flies, use fly traps. Do not leave food sources out. Fans in covered areas will help repel flies. They do not like wind.


52:45 Water Boatman and Backswimmers. Boatmen eat algae, back swimmers eat boatmen. eliminate algae and eliminate both


54:20 mosquitoes. bat and bird houses will help control mosquito and other insect issues.


56:40 Fire ants. get into electrical components like circuit boards and motors and short them out. Take steps to control fire ants.


58:50 essential oils for insects and animal control. cinnamon oil for ants, peppermint oil for spiders and mosquitoes, lemon grass oil to repel flies. Find a local botanist to recommend plants to help control insects and animals. Always go natural if possible.

Frank and Jacque discuss many of the weather issues they have been facing with all of the severe weather this spring. High water level damage in equipment areas, wash-in into pools, stain treatment and prevention after flooding.


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The Deep End Pool Podcast focuses on residential pool maintenance and may not cover commercial pool requirements. Please consult the CDC and local authorities and code requirements for commercial pool maintenance.


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00:00 Introduction


04:23 There are issues with servicing pools once per week, with weather impacting the condition of the pool a few times every week.


10:00 Water chemistry changes quickly with heavy rains and severe weather, and service techs cannot perform all duties with lightning in the area


11:00 Drainage can change over time around pools as turf and flower beds build up as slopes change.


20:10 How to treat a pool when you get oil in the pool. Enzymes


22:30 High water levels from severe storms around pool equipment are causing pump and other electrical equipment failures. Raise equipment or improve drainage around pool equipment.


31:00 Down spouts on gutters need to be directed away from pool equipment.


31:45 Drainage off the house from heavy rains can cause pumps to fail.


36:00 Surge protectors for pool equipment. As equipment becomes more expensive, you may want to protect it with surge protectors.


37:42 Run off into pools can cause heavy loads of soil and minerals into the pool. Once cleaned up, you need to treat staining quickly if not drained. Once metal stains are removed, those metals are in your pool water. The only way to remove the metals is CU Lator metal eliminator. Culator.com. Use coupon code DEEPEND44 for saving on on-line purchases.


41:10 Flocculants will remove particulates in the pool water and allow them to be removed with a vacuum to waste systems.


43:40 The sequestering agent and chelating agents break down over time with chlorine, allowing the metals to stain again. Remove the metals from the water while they are sequestered.


45:10 Fillfast from Culator.com


47:35 do not run muddy or filthy water through your filter without frequent cleaning.

Frank is solo in this episode and discusses some issues brought up in FB groups and listener questions. He dives deep into how much chlorine you should keep in your pool, the benefits of borates, and metal issues and how to prevent them.


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The Deep End Pool Podcast focuses on residential pool maintenance and may not cover commercial pool requirements. Please consult the CDC and local authorities and code requirements for commercial pool maintenance.


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00:00 introduction


02:45 Dealing with the changing nature of each pool's chemistry.


05:35 Properly test, then calculate and add measured doses. The amount needed for chlorine varies from week to week.


06:00 How much chlorine is needed in your pool?


08:00 Without borates, calculate 7.5% of your CYA and adjust chlorine dosing to maintain your chorine at 7.5% of your CYA. With borates it is 5% of your CYA.


10:00 anytime your chlorine falls below the need amount, super chlorinate your pool (7-8 ppm) to handle that extra load, and increase your maintenance dose of chlorine.


13:30 Salt systems may need to increase the percentage of chlorine production and run times on the filter pump to keep up with chlorine demand.


21:30 Borates. Softens water, it's a natural clarifier, helps stabilize pH, and slows the growth of algae.


23:55 chlorine is more effective at lower pH, and CYA protects chlorine from UV rays better with a lower pH.


27:00 with borates in your pool at 40 to 50 ppm, you need to maintain a chlorine residual of 5% of your cya vs 7.5% without borates.


31:00 we found that running a little higher pH is the chlorine does not last as well. The higher pH affects the ability of cya to protect chlorine from UV rays.


33:10 pool staining. CU Lator removes metals from the water.


34:00 metal staining on plaster or pool surfaces means the metal in the water has gone out of solution. If the metal is on the surfaces of the pool structure, it is not in the water to be tested, though some may still be in solution.


36:00 Mineral purification systems, like BlueRay XL, do add metal to the water. You need to manage your metal levels when using these products. Regular testing of metals, and using CU Lator metal remover as needed.


38:00 Keeping LSI balanced is critical to prevent metal and calcium staining.

Frank and Jacque discuss the logic in filter pump run schedules and some safety warnings about filters.


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The Deep End Pool Podcast focuses on residential pool maintenance and may not cover commercial pool requirements. Please consult the CDC and local authorities and code requirements for commercial pool maintenance.


Email us questions and show suggestions at deependfrank@gmail.com.


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00:00 Introduction


04:45 problems even when you have weekly service. Water still changes daily, service techs manage pools for known current conditions.


07:00 There is very little consistency with pool chemistry after weather events.


07:35 Opinions are like buttholes, everybody has one. Frank's addition to this. "Do you know the difference between an opinion and a b******e? You can't get a butthole from an opinion, but you can get an opinion from a b******e".


09:24 joke: Why does a duck have feathers on it's tail? answer: To cover it's butt quack.


09:45 how long to run your pump. 1 hour for every 10 degrees of air temperature is a worthless formula.


10:44 Gage and Bidwell law of dilution.


20:00 using varying speeds with a variable speed pump and taking advantage of the huge electricity savings of lower speeds.


25:50 filter cleaning. It is not that difficult, but can be dangerous. Frank had a customer get killed by their filter.