GOTO - The Brightest Minds in Tech

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GOTO - The Brightest Minds in Tech

The GOTO podcast seeks out the brightest and boldest ideas from language creators and the world's leading experts in software development in the form of interviews and conference talks. Tune in to get the inspiration you need to bring in new technologies or gain extra evidence to support your software development plan.

  1. 4D AGO

    Beyond Storytelling: A Deep Dive into Wardley Mapping • Simon Wardley & Charles Humble

    This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here Simon Wardley - Thought Lord, Mapper, Mostly Good Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant RESOURCES Simon https://bsky.app/profile/swardley.bsky.social https://me.dm/@swardley https://twitter.com/swardley https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonwardley https://swardley.medium.com Charles https://bsky.app/profile/charleshumble.bsky.social https://linkedin.com/in/charleshumble https://mastodon.social/@charleshumble https://conissaunce.com Links https://www.wardleymaps.com https://mapkeep.com https://miro.com DESCRIPTION Simon Wardley and Charles Humble discuss the development of Wardley Mapping, a visual framework that helps organizations understand and navigate technological evolution. Moving beyond traditional business storytelling, the interview explores how mapping enables better strategic decision-making through understanding component evolution, inertia, and gameplay, while also addressing current technological shifts in AI and cyber-physical systems. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Simon Wardley • Wardley Maps Simon Wardley • Wardley Mapping, The Knowledge Sun Tzu • The Art of War Jonathan Allen & Thomas Blood • Reaching Cloud Velocity Mark Craddock • Wardley Mapping Doctrine Susanne Kaiser • Adaptive Systems With Domain-Driven Design, Wardley Mapping & Team Topologies Erik Schön • The Art Of Strategy Inspiring Tech Leaders - The Technology PodcastInterviews with Tech Leaders and insights on the latest emerging technology trends.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Bluesky Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    48 min

  2. JUN 27

    Better Value Sooner Safer Happier • Simon Rohrer & Eduardo da Silva

    This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club. http://gotopia.tech/bookclub Read the full transcription of the interview here Simon Rohrer - Co-Author of "Better Value Sooner Safer Happier" & Senior Director at Saxo Bank Eduardo da Sliva - Independent Consultant on Organization, Architecture, and Leadership Modernization RESOURCES Simon https://bsky.app/profile/simon.bvssh.com https://mastodon.social/@simonr https://x.com/sirohrer https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonrohrer https://github.com/sirohrer https://www.soonersaferhappier.com Eduardo https://bsky.app/profile/esilva.net https://mastodon.social/@eduardodasilva https://x.com/emgsilva https://www.linkedin.com/in/emgsilva https://github.com/emgsilva https://esilva.net DESCRIPTION Eduardo da Silva and Simon Rohrer discuss the core ideas of "Better Value Sooner Safer Happier" diving into the principles of organizational transformation. Simon shares insights on the shift from output-driven to outcome-focused thinking, emphasizing value over productivity, and the need for continuous improvement in delivery speed, stakeholder satisfaction, and safety. The conversation explores key concepts like technical excellence, integrating safety into development, and balancing incremental changes with occasional larger steps. Simon Rohrer discusses organizational patterns and the importance of decentralizing decision-making, recommending a flexible, context-driven approach to transformation. The session concludes with practical advice on how to start implementing these ideas, using the book’s map to guide organizations toward the right transformation strategy based on their specific goals. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Jonathan Smart, Zsolt Berend, Myles Ogilvie & Simon Rohrer • Sooner Safer Happier Stephen Fishman & Matt McLarty • Unbundl Inspiring Tech Leaders - The Technology PodcastInterviews with Tech Leaders and insights on the latest emerging technology trends.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Bluesky Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    42 min

  3. JUN 20

    Tap Into Fast Flow with Team Topologies & Platform Engineering • Manuel Pais & Julian Wood

    This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here Manuel Pais - Co-Author of the Book "Team Topologies" Julian Wood - Serverless Developer Advocate at AWS  RESOURCES Manuel https://x.com/manupaisable https://www.manuelpais.net https://www.linkedin.com/in/manuelpais https://github.com/manupaisable Julian https://bsky.app/profile/julianwood.com https://twitter.com/julian_wood http://www.wooditwork.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/julianrwood Links https://teamtopologies.com https://academy.teamtopologies.com https://www.teamperature.com https://itrevolution.com https://matthewskelton.com DESCRIPTION Manuel Pais, co-author of Team Topologies, shares his journey in shaping modern organizational design for fast-flow efficiency with Julian Wood. Reflecting on the widespread impact of the book, Manuel explores how its principles have enabled organizations to redefine team structures, streamline value delivery, and balance cognitive load. The discussion covers communication challenges, the evolution of platform engineering, and strategies for iterative team reorganization. Manuel also addresses the growing influence of AI in software development, emphasizing the need for human oversight, strategic alignment with value streams, and enabling teams to harness AI effectively. With insights from real-world implementations and evolving trends, this episode provides a comprehensive guide to building adaptable, customer-focused, and innovative organizations. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies Susanne Kaiser • Adaptive Systems With Domain-Driven Design, Wardley Mapping & Team Topologies Heidi Helfand • Dynam Inspiring Tech Leaders - The Technology PodcastInterviews with Tech Leaders and insights on the latest emerging technology trends.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Bluesky Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    52 min

  4. JUN 13

    Kotlin for Developers • Marcin Moskala & Nicola Corti

    This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club. http://gotopia.tech/bookclub Read the full transcription of the interview here Marcin Moskala - Fullstack Kotlin Developer, Founder of Kt. Academy & Author of "Effective Kotlin", et al. Nicola Corti - Staff Android Engineer at Meta, React Native Core Team Member & Open Source Lover RESOURCES Marcin https://x.com/marcinmoskala https://kt.academy https://github.com//marcinmoskala https://www.instagram.com/cortinico Nicola https://x.com/cortinico https://ncorti.com https://github.com/cortinico https://www.linkedin.com/in/cortinico Links https://developer.android.com/develop/ui/compose/kotlin https://detekt.dev https://www.abreslav.com https://kt.academy/article/ek-composition https://kt.academy/article/books-kotlin-for-developers-ready DESCRIPTION In this episode of the "GOTO Book Club", Nicola Corti talks to Marcin Moskala, author of "Effective Kotlin", to unravel the inspiration, evolution, and community impact of his work. Moskala reflects on his decade-long journey with Kotlin, revealing how his book bridges the gap between Java-centric practices and Kotlin’s idiomatic potential. The discussion spans essential topics like factory functions, composition over inheritance, and the iterative process behind curating best practices tailored to Kotlin’s strengths. Marcin also highlights the "Kotlin for Developers" series and his Give IT Forward initiative, showcasing his commitment to empowering developers and fostering accessible programming education worldwide. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Marcin Moskala • Effective Kotlin Marcin Moskala • Kotlin Essentials Marcin Moskala • Functional Kotlin Inspiring Tech Leaders - The Technology PodcastInterviews with Tech Leaders and insights on the latest emerging technology trends.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Bluesky Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    47 min

  5. JUN 6

    Design & Develop Distributed Software Better w/ Multiplayer • Tom Johnson & Julian Wood

    This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here Thomas Johnson - Co-Founder & CTO at Multiplayer Julian Wood - Serverless Developer Advocate at AWS RESOURCES Tom https://x.com/tomjohnson3 https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomjohnson3 https://github.com/tomjohnson3 Julian https://bsky.app/profile/julianwood.com https://twitter.com/julian_wood http://www.wooditwork.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/julianrwood Links https://www.multiplayer.app DESCRIPTION Julian Wood and Tom Johnson explore the complexities of modern software development, with Tom sharing his journey from machine learning and distributed systems to founding Multiplayer, a company focused on simplifying development by automating documentation, debugging, and system design. They discuss the challenges of building and managing complex software architectures, especially with microservices and cloud platforms, and the need for better tooling to address these issues. Tom emphasizes the importance of simplicity, collaboration, and transparency in development, especially when it comes to API design and managing system dependencies. They also explore best practices for team communication, the evolving role of platform engineering, and the shift toward a future where infrastructure is abstracted away, allowing developers to focus on software creation. Together, they envision a world where better tools and AI lower the barrier to entry for developers, driving innovation and enabling more people to bring their ideas to life. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Simon Brown • Software Architecture for Developers Vol. 2 David Farley • Modern Software Engineering Kim, Humble, Debois, Willis & Forsgren • The DevOps Handbook Simon Wardley • Wardley Maps Simon Wardley • Wardley Mapping, The Knowledge Inspiring Tech Leaders - The Technology PodcastInterviews with Tech Leaders and insights on the latest emerging technology trends.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Bluesky Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    45 min

  6. MAY 30

    Communication Patterns • Jacqui Read & Gregor Hohpe

    This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club. http://gotopia.tech/bookclub Read the full transcription of the interview here Jacqui Read - Software Architect, Speaker & Author of "Communication Patterns" Gregor Hohpe - Author of "Platform Strategy", "The Software Architect Elevator", et al. RESOURCES Jacqui https://bsky.app/profile/tekiegirl.bsky.social https://jacquiread.com https://fosstodon.org/@tekiegirl https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacquelineread https://github.com/tekiegirl Gregor https://twitter.com/ghohpe https://www.linkedin.com/in/ghohpe https://architectelevator.com Links https://acedmodel.com DESCRIPTION Jacqui Read and Gregor Hohpe discuss her book "Communication Patterns", which aims to bridge the gap in effective communication for software professionals. Jacqui highlights the importance of core communication skills, covering topics like visuals, writing, knowledge management, and remote collaboration. The book offers practical patterns for improving diagrams, addressing multimodal communication issues, and ensuring accessibility, particularly for neurodiverse individuals. Jacqui also introduces her upcoming ACED Model, a strategic framework to align software development with business needs while remaining adaptable. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Jacqui Read • Communication Patterns Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy Gregor Hohpe • The Software Architect Elevator Gregor Hohpe • Cloud Strategy Gregor Hohpe • Enterprise Integration Patterns, Vol 2 Gregor Hohpe & Bobby Woolf • Enterprise Integration Patterns Erich Gamma, Richard Helm, Ralph Johnson, John Vlissides • Design Patterns Neal Ford, Matthew McCullough & Nathaniel Schutta • Presentation Patterns Inspiring Tech Leaders - The Technology PodcastInterviews with Tech Leaders and insights on the latest emerging technology trends.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Bluesky Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    45 min

  7. MAY 23

    From XP to TCR & Limbo • Kent Beck & Daniel Terhorst-North

    This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here Kent Beck - Software Engineer & Creator of Extreme Programming Daniel Terhorst-North - Originator of Behavior Driven Development (BDD) & Principal at Dan North & Associates RESOURCES Kent https://bsky.app/profile/kentbeck.bsky.social https://www.kentbeck.com https://github.com/KentBeck https://twitter.com/KentBeck https://www.linkedin.com/in/kentbeck Daniel https://bsky.app/profile/tastapod.com https://twitter.com/tastapod https://www.linkedin.com/in/tastapod https://github.com/tastapod https://mastodon.social/@tastapod http://dannorth.net/blog DESCRIPTION Kent Beck and Daniel Terhorst-North reflect on the evolution of Extreme Programming (XP) and its lasting impact on agile software development. They explore the importance of short feedback loops, iterative learning, and adaptability in different phases of product development, as outlined in Beck’s 3X model (Exploration, Expansion, Extraction). Kent introduces radical techniques like Test && Commit || Revert (TCR) and Limbo, which challenge traditional coding and collaboration practices by emphasizing tiny, safe iterations. The conversation ties in psychological safety, a key factor in high-performing teams, as outlined by Amy C. Edmondson. Kent envisions a future where software development scales in real-time, pushing teams to embrace faster experimentation, responsibility, and continuous learning in a rapidly evolving tech landscape. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Kent Beck • Tidy First? Kent Beck & Cynthia Andres • Extreme Programming Explained Amy C. Edmondson • The Fearless Organization Amy C. Edmondson • Right Kind of Wrong Jez Humble & David Inspiring Tech Leaders - The Technology PodcastInterviews with Tech Leaders and insights on the latest emerging technology trends.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Bluesky Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    41 min

  8. MAY 16

    Unbundling the Enterprise • Stephen Fishman, Matt McLarty & Erik Wilde

    This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club. gotopia.tech/bookclub Read the full transcription of the interview here Stephen Fishman - Field CTO at Boomi & Co-Author of "Unbundling the Enterprise" Matt McLarty - CTO at Boomi & Co-Author of "Unbundling the Enterprise" Erik Wilde - Principal Consultant at INNOQ RESOURCES Stephen https://x.com/fistsOfReason https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephenhfishman https://github.com/StephenFishman Matt https://bsky.app/profile/mattmclartybc.bsky.social https://x.com/MattMcLartyBC https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattmclartybc Erik https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikwilde https://github.com/dret Links https://itrevolution.com/articles https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages DESCRIPTION How can businesses thrive by embracing optionality through digital transformation? Authors Matt McLarty and Stephen Fishman talk about their book “Unbundling the Enterprise” with Erik Wilde. They highlight the power of APIs and flexible systems in enabling companies to capitalize on unforeseen opportunities, or "happy accidents," and how low-cost experimentation can drive long-term success. The conversation emphasizes that optionality is crucial not only in tech but also in business strategy, urging organizations to view their digital capabilities as part of a broader platform that supports both developer empowerment and revenue growth. With insights on optimization, platform engineering, and the importance of aligning technology with business objectives, the authors offer a roadmap for companies to navigate the future with agility and resilience. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Stephen Fishman & Matt McLarty • Unbundling the Enterprise Carliss Y. Baldwin • Design Rules, Vol. 2 Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais Inspiring Tech Leaders - The Technology PodcastInterviews with Tech Leaders and insights on the latest emerging technology trends.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Bluesky Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    43 min
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