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News, analysis, and insights into enterprise security. We put security vendors under the microscope, and explore the latest trends that can help defenders succeed. Hosted by Adrian Sanabria. Co hosts: Katie Teitler-Santullo, Ayman Elsawah, Jason Wood, Jackie McGuire.

  1. First Do No Harm - Security Challenges in Healthcare - Ed Gaudet, Tanya Janca - ESW #396

    2 DAYS AGO

    First Do No Harm - Security Challenges in Healthcare - Ed Gaudet, Tanya Janca - ESW #396

    In 2011, Marc Andreessen predicted that software would eat the world. Specifically, the prediction was that software companies would take over the economy and disrupt all industries. The economic prediction has mostly come true, with 9 out of 10 of the most highly valued companies being tech companies. The industry disruption didn't materialize in some cases, and outright failed in others. Healthcare seems to be one of these 'disruption-resistant' areas. Ed joins us today to discuss why that might be, and what the paths towards securing the healthcare industry might look like. Segment Resources: Ed's podcast, Risk Never Sleeps We get a visit from Tanya Janca to discuss her latest book, Alice and Bob Learn Secure Coding! Segment Resources: Tanya's latest book on Amazon Tanya's previous book, Alice and Bob Learn Application Security on Amazon Tanya's website, She Hacks Purple This week, in the enterprise security news, we’ve got some funding and acquisitions! ransomware payments are DOWN 35% infostealers on Macs are UP 101% Bybit got hit by a $1.5B heist and shrugged it off A SaaS report says AI is having no impact on pricing Microsoft’s CEO says AI is generating no value Google is dropping SMS as a second factor Google creates a 4th state of matter instead of fixing Teams What it’s like to be named “Null” All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-396

    2h 3m
  2. The Future of Cyber Regulation in the New Administration - Ilona Cohen, Jenn Gile - ESW #395

    FEB 24

    The Future of Cyber Regulation in the New Administration - Ilona Cohen, Jenn Gile - ESW #395

    In this interview, we're excited to have Ilona Cohen to help us understand what changes this new US administration might bring, in terms of cybersecurity regulation. Ilona's insights come partially from her own experiences working from within the White House. Before she was the Chief Legal Officer of HackerOne, she was a senior lawyer to President Obama and served as General Counsel of the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB). In this hyper-partisan environment, it's easy to get hung up on particular events. Do many of us lack cross-administration historical perspective? Probably. Should we be outraged by the disillusion of the CSRB, or was this a fairly ordinary occurrence when a new administration comes in? These are the kinds of questions I'll be posing to Ilona in this conversation. How the Change Healthcare breach can prompt real cybersecurity change 'Shift Left' feels like a cliché at this point, but it's often difficult to track tech and security movements if you aren't interacting with practitioners on a regular basis. Some areas of tech have a longer tail when it comes to late adopters and laggards, and application security appears to be one of these areas. In this interview, Jenn Gile catches us up on AppSec trends. Segment Resources: Microsoft Defender for Cloud Natively Integrates with Endor Labs 2024 Dependency Management Report How to pick the right SAST tool In the enterprise security news, Change Healthcare’s HIPAA fine is vanishingly small How worried should we be about the threat of AI models? What about the threat of DeepSeek? And the threat of employees entering sensitive data into GenAI prompts? The myth of trillion-dollar cybercrime losses are alive and well! Kagi Privacy Pass gives you the best of both worlds: high quality web searches AND privacy/anonymity Thanks to the UK for letting everyone know about end-to-end encryption for iCloud! What is the most UNHINGED thing you've ever seen a security team push on employees? All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-395

    1h 59m
  3. Evolving the SOC: Automating Manual Work while Maintaining Quality at Scale - Allie Mellen, Tim MalcomVetter - ESW #394

    FEB 17

    Evolving the SOC: Automating Manual Work while Maintaining Quality at Scale - Allie Mellen, Tim MalcomVetter - ESW #394

    We've got a few compelling topics to discuss within SecOps today. First, Tim insists it's possible to automate a large amount of SecOps work, without the use of generative AI. Not only that, but he intends to back it up by tracking the quality of this automated work with an ISO standard unknown to cybersecurity. I've often found useful lessons and wisdom outside security, so I get excited when someone borrows from another, more mature industry to help solve problems in cyber. In this case, we'll be talking about Acceptable Quality Limits (AQL), an ISO standard quality assurance framework that's never been used in cyber. Segment Resources: Introducing AQL for cyber. AQL - How we do it An AQL 'calculator' you can play around with We couldn't decide what to talk to Allie about, so we're going with a bit of everything. Don't worry - it's all related and ties together nicely. First, we'll discuss AI and automation in the SOC - Allie is covering this trend closely, and we want to know if she's seeing any results yet here. Next, we'll discover SecOps data management - the blood that delivers oxygen to the SOC muscles. Finally, we'll discuss MITRE's recent EDR evaluations - there was some contention around some vendors claiming to ace the test and we're going to get the tea on what's really going on here! For each of these three topics, these are the blog posts they correspond with if you want to learn more: Generative AI Will Not Fulfill Your Autonomous SOC Hopes (Or Even Your Demo Dreams) If You’re Not Using Data Pipeline Management For Security And IT, You Need To Go Beyond The MITRE ATT&CK Evaluation To The True Cost Of Alert Volumes In this week's enterprise security news, we've got 5 acquisitions Tines gets funding new tools and DFIR reports to check out A legal precedent that could hurt AI companies AI garbage is in your code repos the dark side of security leadership HIPAA fines are broken Salt Typhoon is having a great time Don't use ChatGPT for legal advice!!!!! All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-394

    1h 55m
  4. The groundbreaking technology addressing employment scams and deepfakes - John Dwyer, Aaron Painter - ESW #393

    FEB 10

    The groundbreaking technology addressing employment scams and deepfakes - John Dwyer, Aaron Painter - ESW #393

    Spoiler: it's probably in your pocket or sitting on the table in front of you, right now! Modern smartphones are conveniently well-suited for identity verification. They have microphones, cameras, depth sensors, and fingerprint readers in some cases. With face scanning quickly becoming the de facto technology used for identity verification, it was a no-brainer for Nametag to build a solution around mobile devices to address employment scams. Segment Resources: Company website Aaron's book, Loyal Listeners of the show are probably aware (possibly painfully aware) that I spend a lot of time analyzing breaches to understand how failures occurred. Every breach story contains lessons organizations can learn from to avoid suffering the same fate. A few details make today's breach story particularly interesting: It was a Chinese APT Maybe the B or C team? They seemed to be having a hard time Their target was a blind spot for both the defender AND the attacker Segment Resources: https://www.binarydefense.com/resources/blog/shining-a-light-in-the-dark-how-binary-defense-uncovered-an-apt-lurking-in-shadows-of-it/ https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/18/chinesespiesfoundonushqfirm_network/ This week, in the enterprise security news, Semgrep raises a lotta money CYE acquires Solvo Sophos completes the Secureworks acquisition SailPoint prepares for IPO Summarizing the 2024 cybersecurity market Lawyers that specialize in keeping breach details secret Scientists torture AI Make sure to offboard your S3 buckets extinguish fires with bass All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-393

    1h 50m
  5. The Growth of Women in Cybersecurity Has Slowed - Why, and What Can We Do About It? - Lynn Dohm - ESW #392

    FEB 3

    The Growth of Women in Cybersecurity Has Slowed - Why, and What Can We Do About It? - Lynn Dohm - ESW #392

    Celebrating and Elevating Women in Cyber: Recently, International Women in Cyber Day (September 1) highlighted the ongoing challenges women face in the cybersecurity field, as well as the progress made in recent years. Women bring exceptional skills and knowledge to cybersecurity; however, it is estimated that they make up only 20% to 25% of the cybersecurity workforce—a percentage that has remained stagnant for years. Even more concerning, women often hit a glass ceiling just six to ten years into their cybersecurity careers. Lynn Dohm sheds light on these issues and emphasizes what the industry needs to focus on to continue celebrating and elevating women in cyber. Segment Resources: 2023 State of Inclusion Benchmark in Cybersecurity 2024 Cyber Talent Study by N2K and WiCyS WiCyS Programs This week, we've added an extra news segment just on AI. Not because we wanted to, but because the news cycle has bludgeoned us into it. My mom is asking about Chinese AI, my neighbor wants to know why his stocks tanked, my clients want to know how to prevent their employees from using DeepSeek, it's a mess. First, a DeepSeek primer, so we can make sure all Enterprise Security Weekly listeners know what they need to know. Then we get into some other AI news stories. DeepSeek Primer I think the most interesting aspect of the DeepSeek announcements is the business/market impact, which isn't really security-related, but could have some impact on security teams. By introducing models that are cheaper to train, sell access to, and less demanding to run on systems, DeepSeek has opened up more market opportunities. That means we'll see generative AI used in markets and ways that didn't make sense before, because it was too expensive. Another aspect that's really confusing is what DeepSeek is or does. For the most part, when someone says "DeepSeek", they could be referring to: the company the open source models released by the company the SaaS service (https://chat.deepseek.com) the mobile app (which is effectively just a front end for #3) the API (which is what the mobile app and SaaS service are built on top of) From a security perspective, there's little to no operational risk around downloading and using the models, though they're likely to get banned, so companies could get in trouble for using them. As for the app, API, or SaaS service, assume everything you type into them is getting collected by China (so, significantly less safe, probably no US companies should do this). But because these services are crazy cheap right now, I wouldn't be surprised if some suppliers and third parties will start using DeepSeek - if your third party service provider is using DeepSeek behind the scenes with your data, you still have problem #2, so best to ensure they're not doing this through updated contract language and call to confirm that they're not currently doing it (can take a while to get a new contract in place). This week in the enterprise security weekly news, we discuss funding and acquisitions Understanding the Semgrep license drama Ridiculous vulnerabilities everywhere: vulns to take down your entire city’s cell service vulns to mess with your Subarus vulns in Microsoft 365 authentication cybersecurity regulations are worthless Facebook is banning people for mentioning Linux Vigilantes on Github Mastercard DNS error Qubes OS Turning a "No" into a conversation All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-392

    2h 12m
  6. AI Red Teaming Comes to Bug Bounties - Francis Dinha, Michiel Prins - ESW #391

    JAN 27

    AI Red Teaming Comes to Bug Bounties - Francis Dinha, Michiel Prins - ESW #391

    HackerOne's co-founder, Michiel Prins walks us through the latest new offensive security service: AI red teaming. At the same time enterprises are globally trying to figure out how to QA and red team generative AI models like LLMs, early adopters are challenged to scale these tests. Crowdsourced bug bounty platforms are a natural place to turn for assistance with scaling this work, though, as we'll discuss on this episode, it is unlike anything bug hunters have ever tackled before. Segment Resources: https://www.hackerone.com/ai/snap-ai-red-teaming https://www.hackerone.com/thought-leadership/ai-safety-red-teaming This interview is a bit different from our norm. We talk to the founder and CEO of OpenVPN about what it is like to operate a business based on open source, particularly through trying times like the recent pandemic. How do you compete when your competitors are free to build products using your software and IP? It seems like an oxymoron, but an open source-based business actually has some significant advantages over the closed source commercial approach. In this week's enterprise security news, the first cybersecurity IPO in 3.5 years! new companies new tools the fate of CISA and the cyber safety review board things we learned about AI in 2024 is the humanless SOC possible? NGFWs have some surprising vulnerabilities what did generative music sound like in 1996? All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-391

    2h 7m
  7. The Next Era of Data Security: AI, Cloud, & Compliance - Jeff Smith, Dimitri Sirota, Kiran Chinnagangannagari - ESW #390

    JAN 20

    The Next Era of Data Security: AI, Cloud, & Compliance - Jeff Smith, Dimitri Sirota, Kiran Chinnagangannagari - ESW #390

    Today's data landscape is undergoing a seismic shift with increasing regulatory pressures, rapid acceleration to the cloud, and AI adoption. Join BigID's CEO and Co-Founder, Dimitri Sirota, to learn how organizations can adopt a holistic approach to their data security and compliance strategy to keep up with the revolution in data, transforming their data into a competitive advantage. This segment is sponsored by BigID! Start protecting your sensitive data wherever your data lives at https://securityweekly.com/bigid. I've been so excited to see the external attack surface management (EASM) market take off in the past few years. This market category focuses exclusively on security issues exposed to the public Internet - issues ANYONE can see. All organizations have exposure management problems, but industries that are traditionally underfunded when it comes to cybersecurity and IT are particularly worse off. We see breaches in these industries every day - industries like manufacturing, healthcare, and education. Of course, exposure issues don't stop at the network boundary - all organizations have internal exposures to worry about as well. With all the breaches we see every week, we've become somewhat desensitized to them. Is it possible to address even just the most critical exposures (a fraction of 1% of all vulnerabilities) in one of the most underfunded industries? In this episode, we dive into how a small school system in New Mexico took on this challenge. This week in the enterprise news - Cymulate acquires CYNC Secure, Tidal Cyber acquires Zero-Shot, Amazon ransomware attack, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-390

    2h 4m
  8. How threat-informed defense benefits each security team member - Frank Duff, Nathan Sportsman - ESW #389

    JAN 13

    How threat-informed defense benefits each security team member - Frank Duff, Nathan Sportsman - ESW #389

    We're thrilled to have Frank Duff on to discuss threat-informed defense. As one of the MITRE folks that helped create MITRE ATT&CK and ATT&CK evaluations, Frank has been working on how best to define and communicate attack language for many years now. The company he founded, Tidal Cyber is in a unique position to both leverage what MITRE has built with ATT&CK and help enterprises operationalize it. Segment Resources: Tidal Cyber website Tidal Cyber Community Edition We're a fan of hacker lore and history here at Security Weekly. In fact, Paul's Security Weekly has interviewed some of the most notable (and notorious) personalities from both the business side of the industry and the hacker community. We're very excited to share this new effort to document hacker history through in-person interviews. The series is called "Where Warlocks Stay Up Late", and is the creation of Nathan Sportsman and other folks at Praetorian. The timing is crucial, as a lot of the original hackers and tech innovators are getting older, and we've already lost a few. References: Check out the Where the Warlocks Stay Up Late website and subscribe to get notified of each episode as it is released Check out the anthropological hacker map and relive your misspent youth! In this latest Enterprise Security Weekly episode, we explored some significant cybersecurity developments, starting with Veracode’s acquisition of Phylum, a company specializing in detecting malicious code in open-source libraries. The acquisition sparked speculation that it might be more about Veracode staying relevant in a rapidly evolving market rather than a strategic growth move, especially given the rising influence of AI-driven code analysis tools. We also covered One Password's acquisition of a UK-based shadow IT detection firm, raising interesting questions about their expansion into access management. Notably, the deal involved celebrity investors like Matthew McConaughey and Ashton Kutcher, suggesting a trend where Hollywood influence intersects with cybersecurity branding. A major highlight was the Cyber Haven breach, where a compromised Chrome extension update led to stolen credentials. The attack was executed through a phishing campaign disguised as a Google policy violation warning. To their credit, Cyber Haven responded swiftly, pulling the extension within two hours and maintaining transparency throughout. This incident underscored broader concerns around the poor security of browser extensions, an issue that continues to be exploited due to lax marketplace oversight. We also reflected on Corey Doctorow's concept of "Enshittification," critiquing platforms that prioritize profit and engagement metrics over genuine user experiences. His decision to disable vanity metrics resonated, especially considering how often engagement numbers are inflated in corporate settings. The episode wrapped with a thoughtful discussion on how CISOs can say "no" more effectively, emphasizing "yes, but" strategies and the importance of consistency. We also debated the usability frustrations of "magic links" for authentication, arguing that simpler alternatives like passkeys or multi-factor codes could offer a better balance between security and convenience. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-389

    2h 1m

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News, analysis, and insights into enterprise security. We put security vendors under the microscope, and explore the latest trends that can help defenders succeed. Hosted by Adrian Sanabria. Co hosts: Katie Teitler-Santullo, Ayman Elsawah, Jason Wood, Jackie McGuire.

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