The Talent Tango

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The Talent Tango

The Talent Tango where we will be interviewing guests to speak about talent acquisition, recruitment technologies, marketing, and human resources topics.

  1. The Trust Equation in Talent Acquisition

    6 HR. AGO

    The Trust Equation in Talent Acquisition

    In this episode of The Talent Tango, Amir Bormand is joined by Alex Kim, Head of Talent at NewLimit, to discuss the nuances of expectations and requirements in talent acquisition. They dive into how talent professionals can better understand and serve domain experts, establish success criteria, and adapt to the unique challenges of niche and bleeding-edge industries like biotech. Whether you're an early-career recruiter or a seasoned talent leader, this conversation offers invaluable insights into building trust, setting realistic expectations, and aligning talent strategies with business objectives. Key Takeaways: Understanding the Stakeholders You Serve: Talent acquisition is a consultative function. By deeply understanding the organizational structure, team dynamics, and priorities, recruiters can align their strategies with business goals. Data-Driven Collaboration: Use talent mapping and market data to set clear expectations with hiring managers, especially for niche roles. Transparency is key to refining hiring criteria and finding creative solutions. Building Relationships Beyond the Job Post: Strong relationships with hiring managers aren’t built overnight. Attend team meetings, listen actively, and invest in understanding technical priorities to foster trust and streamline collaboration. Navigating Challenges in Niche Hiring: Hiring for cutting-edge industries requires long-term thinking and creative sourcing strategies, such as engaging academic institutions and leveraging leaders’ networks for outreach. Balancing Process with Agility: Processes should enable, not hinder, recruiting success. Adapt your approach based on organizational priorities and challenges, knowing when to tighten or loosen guardrails. Timestamped Highlights: [00:01:10] Alex defines what it means for talent professionals to serve domain experts. [00:03:07] The importance of understanding organizational design and team strengths before starting a search. [00:04:40] How to build trust with hiring managers and maintain relationships during lulls in hiring activity. [00:07:22] Alex on pushing back against unrealistic expectations with data and market insights. [00:12:45] The unique challenges of sourcing for bleeding-edge industries like biotech. [00:18:07] Redefining talent acquisition as a consultative role. [00:24:04] Balancing process efficiency with the need for agility in recruiting. Quote of the Episode: "Despite being domain experts, hiring managers rely on us as talent advisors—not order takers. Our job is to bring the market data, build relationships, and guide them toward the best talent solutions." — Alex Kim Resources and Links: Connect with Alex Kim on LinkedIn: Alex Kim Email Alex: alex.kim@newlimit.com Learn more about NewLimit: NewLimit Website Subscribe and Follow: Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and leave a comment about what resonated with you from this episode. Follow The Talent Tango for more insights from leaders shaping the future of work.

    26 min
  2. Community Building & Founder Hiring Pressure

    JAN 29

    Community Building & Founder Hiring Pressure

    In this episode, we dive deep into community building and the hiring challenges founders face with Michelle McHargue. As an early-stage investor, Michelle has a front-row seat to the pressure founders experience when hiring top talent. We explore why founders are so selective, how curated communities can impact hiring, and why hiring at early-stage startups is uniquely difficult. Key Takeaways ✅ Top Talent Is Subjective: Every startup defines “top talent” differently, making hiring a challenge. ✅ Early-Stage Hiring Is Cutthroat: Startups compete for the same small pool of talent, especially engineers. ✅ Startups Wait for the Right Fit: Unlike larger companies, startups won’t settle—they wait for a “perfect” hire. ✅ Community Building Is a Long Game: Curated talent communities can be an invaluable resource for founders. ✅ Founders Can Be Too Fixated: Many are overly focused on specific skills, limiting their hiring pool. ✅ Hiring Pressure Is Real: Founders juggle hiring with investor expectations, product development, and growth. ✅ Interview Bias Exists: Many hiring processes are designed for a specific type of candidate, unintentionally narrowing the talent pool. ✅ Delegation Matters: Founders often struggle to let go but must delegate hiring to scale effectively. Timestamped Highlights ⏳ [00:01:24] - Defining "top talent" and why it's subjective at startups. ⏳ [00:02:40] - Why early-stage hiring is more competitive and challenging. ⏳ [00:05:00] - The role of curated talent communities in startup hiring. ⏳ [00:07:28] - Why talent curation is a long game, not a quick fix. ⏳ [00:10:39] - How founders can become too focused on specific skill sets. ⏳ [00:14:10] - Interview biases and why hiring processes can unintentionally exclude great talent. ⏳ [00:17:29] - When founders start to listen and seek hiring advice. ⏳ [00:19:13] - The overwhelming pressure of hiring while managing a startup. ⏳ [00:22:33] - When founders finally start delegating hiring decisions. Quote of the Episode 💡 “Hiring is so important, but it’s the one thing founders can’t focus on all the time.” – Michelle McHargue Connect with Michelle McHargue 🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellemchargue/ Enjoyed the Episode? ✔️ Subscribe for more insights on hiring, talent, and community building. ✔️ Share with a colleague who would find this valuable! ✔️ Comment with your thoughts—we’d love to hear from you.

    25 min
  3. Exploring Program Management in Talent

    JAN 22

    Exploring Program Management in Talent

    In this episode, Amir speaks with Tiffany Chandra, Director of People and Talent at Sapphire Ventures, about the intersection of program management and talent acquisition. Tiffany shares her journey into program management, the skills she cultivated, and how program management principles can transform talent functions in organizations of any size. Whether you’re in a small company or a large organization, Tiffany’s insights offer practical ways to enhance recruiting strategies and improve team alignment. Key Takeaways Program Management in Talent: Effective program management aligns multiple recruiting projects under shared goals, ensuring seamless workflows and outcomes. Stakeholder Alignment is Foundational: Building strong relationships and setting clear expectations with stakeholders ensures program success. Governance and Ownership: Defining clear roles and accountability for team members leads to more efficient talent processes. Embracing Ambiguity: Thriving in undefined roles and adapting to challenges fosters creativity and innovation. Feedback and Iteration: Actively seeking feedback from cross-functional teams helps refine processes and deliver better outcomes. Episode Highlights [00:00:00] Introduction: Meet Tiffany Chandra and learn about Sapphire Ventures’ focus on growth-stage companies. [00:01:32] Defining Program Management in Talent: How program management differs from project management and applies to recruiting. [00:04:15] Stakeholder Alignment: Understanding the needs and priorities of stakeholders to drive results. [00:05:22] Governance Structures: Creating accountability and streamlining workflows in recruiting. [00:08:27] Recruiters as Project Managers: Why talent teams can benefit from adopting program and project management techniques. [00:11:31] Setting Expectations Early: Aligning with stakeholders upfront to avoid miscommunication and delays. [00:15:04] Enforcing Accountability: Managing matrixed teams to ensure consistent participation and delivery. [00:20:31] Transitioning to Program Management: Skills and mindset shifts needed to move from recruiting to program management roles. [00:24:00] Metrics in Program Management: How program metrics differ from traditional recruiting KPIs. [00:28:42] Thriving in Ambiguity: Learning to navigate undefined roles and leveraging feedback for continuous improvement. [00:30:30] Closing Thoughts: Tiffany shares advice for those considering a move into program management. This episode is a must-listen for talent professionals and recruiters looking to enhance their processes, adopt program management principles, and create more impactful hiring strategies. 📩 Connect with Tiffany: Reach out to Tiffany on LinkedIn to continue the conversation and learn more about transitioning into program management. https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiffanyschandra/

    32 min
  4. Hiring Strategies for Early-Stage AI Startups

    JAN 15

    Hiring Strategies for Early-Stage AI Startups

    In this episode, host Amir Bormand sits down with Meg Sahni, Senior Director of Talent at Radical Ventures, to explore the intricacies of hiring for early-stage AI companies. With AI's rapid growth, Meg shares valuable insights on navigating a highly competitive talent market, building effective early teams, and establishing a strong employer brand. Key Takeaways: AI Startup Talent Categories: Understanding the differences between "AI-first" companies building foundational models and "applied AI" companies leveraging existing models. Strategic Team Building: Recruiting top-tier talent across research, engineering, and product management to support AI-first and applied AI initiatives. Employer Branding: The importance of participating in conferences, publishing technical content, and engaging in hackathons to attract and retain AI talent. Candidate Motivations: Why aligning with candidates' motivations and clearly articulating company vision are crucial for securing top talent. Lean Team Dynamics: How small, experienced teams at the staff and principal levels outperform in early-stage startups. Highlights with Timestamps: [00:01:35] Breaking down AI-first vs. applied AI companies and their distinct talent needs. [00:03:30] Challenges in recruiting specialized roles like machine learning engineers and data infrastructure experts. [00:07:38] Competitive hiring strategies: Crafting compelling narratives and discussing compensation philosophy. [00:09:37] The role of employer branding in attracting high-caliber talent. [00:14:52] Candidate decision-making: Weighing compensation and stability against impact and innovation. [00:19:47] Best practices for early-stage hiring: Avoiding over-hiring and prioritizing high-impact roles. Engage with Meg Sahni: Connect with Meg on LinkedIn to continue the conversation about hiring strategies in AI startups and beyond: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meg-sahni/ Tune in to this episode for actionable advice on building successful teams in the fast-paced world of AI!

    23 min
  5. Transforming People and Talent Functions into Strategic Drivers

    JAN 9

    Transforming People and Talent Functions into Strategic Drivers

    In this insightful episode, Amir Bormand interviews Jim Conti, Talent Partner at Hyde Park Venture Partners, about redefining the value of people and talent functions. Jim shares strategies for evolving the role from being process-driven to a core strategic contributor, while highlighting the importance of aligning with business goals, automating admin tasks, and building impactful employee experiences. This episode is packed with practical advice for HR professionals, talent leaders, and anyone looking to amplify the value of their talent organization. Key Takeaways: Identify Your Org’s People Function Priorities: The reporting structure and allocated budget reveal how much a company values its talent function. Evolve from Admin to Strategic: Focus on aligning talent initiatives with broader business goals and automate routine tasks to free up time for strategy. Build a Business Case for Talent Investments: Use data and ROI-driven arguments to gain leadership buy-in for new tools and initiatives. Set Boundaries Without People-Pleasing: Clarity and transparency in career development discussions create trust and empower employees without over-promising. Measure Talent Impact: Post-hiring surveys and bar-raiser metrics help show the business value of talent initiatives. Timestamped Highlights: [00:00:30] Introduction to the role of people and talent functions in organizations. [00:03:00] Key indicators of whether an organization views HR as strategic or process-driven. [00:05:14] Shifting the people function from admin-heavy to strategically aligned. [00:07:54] Building a business case for HR investments and gaining buy-in from leadership. [00:11:54] The importance of transparency and clarity in employee development conversations. [00:18:00] How talent leaders can demonstrate business value by engaging with stakeholders. [00:23:00] Questions to ask during the interview process to assess a company’s strategic outlook on talent. [00:24:55] Matching organizational challenges to your personal career goals. If you’re looking for actionable insights to elevate your talent organization, this episode is a must-listen.  Share it with your network to inspire more strategic thinking in the HR and talent space. Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe to stay updated with the latest discussions in talent leadership! Jim Conti: https://www.linkedin.com/in/contijc/ Jim Conti is the Talent Partner at Hyde Park Venture Partners and has been with the firm since 2021. In this role, Jim provides strategic talent support and consulting to the firm's portfolio of companies. Prior to Hyde Park Venture Partners, Jim served as head of people at dscout and Sprout Social — both Chicago-based software startups. In these roles, Jim built, grew, and oversaw teams across recruitment, talent management, DEI, culture, HR, and benefits strategy. The impact of this work is seen in awards from Glassdoor, Chicago Tribune, Crain’s Chicago, and Built in Chicago.

    27 min
  6. Founders, Hiring, and Navigating the Unknown

    12/04/2024

    Founders, Hiring, and Navigating the Unknown

    In this insightful episode, host Amir speaks with Tanaz Mody, Head of People Operations and Talent at Lerer Hippeau, to explore the unique challenges founders face in hiring and leadership. The conversation highlights the complexities of transitioning from founder to CEO, building trust, and making strategic hiring decisions in early-stage startups. Tanaz provides practical advice on delegation, setting expectations, and the evolving role of People Operations in supporting business growth. Episode Highlights Founders and Hiring Challenges The emotional attachment founders have to their business often makes hiring decisions difficult. Common pitfalls in hiring due to lack of alignment on company needs. Delegation and Trust The importance of founders learning to delegate effectively and trust their teams. Building safe spaces for transparent communication and collaboration. Strategic Decision-Making Setting milestones and frameworks to align hiring with business goals. How People Operations can facilitate smoother transitions during early-stage growth. From Founder to CEO The mindset shift required to evolve from a hands-on founder to a strategic CEO. Overcoming the challenges of scaling leadership and adapting to new roles. VC Talent Partners’ Role Unique insights from VC-backed talent advisors to help startups scale efficiently. Support for founders in aligning business strategy with leadership growth. Key Takeaways Trust and Delegation are Non-Negotiable Founders must embrace delegation and trust their team to scale the business effectively. Strategic Hiring Requires Milestones Establish clear benchmarks to ensure hires align with the company’s current and future needs. Transitioning to CEO Requires a Mindset Shift Founders need to focus on big-picture strategy rather than micromanaging daily tasks. People Operations is Key to Scaling A well-defined People Ops strategy ensures smoother transitions and long-term growth. Listen now for actionable insights on building a stronger team, scaling leadership, and navigating the founder-to-CEO journey! Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe for more engaging conversations with industry leaders. Guest:  Tanaz Mody is the Head of People Operations and Talent at Lerer Hippeau, where she drives strategic hiring and fosters high-performing teams. With extensive experience across industries, she specializes in innovative recruitment strategies, inclusive work environments, and aligning talent with organizational goals. LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanazmody/ ---- Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Talent Tango. We would appreciate it if you would take a minute to rate and review us on your favorite podcast player. Want to learn more about us? Head over at https://www.elevano.com Have questions or want to cover specific topics with our future guests? Please message me at https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand)

    24 min
  7. Empowering Women in the Workplace: Navigating Health, Advocacy, and Balance

    11/20/2024

    Empowering Women in the Workplace: Navigating Health, Advocacy, and Balance

    In this powerful episode, Amir Bormand speaks with Dena Singleton, Chief HR Officer at Kajabi, about the challenges women face throughout their careers. They explore key issues like balancing personal and professional life, navigating health-related workplace returns, and addressing menopause—a topic often overlooked in organizational conversations. Dena shares personal stories and actionable advice on creating inclusive environments, advocating for oneself, and fostering open communication. This episode offers valuable insights for HR leaders, managers, and anyone looking to create more equitable and supportive workplaces. Key Takeaways: Recognize and Address Unique Challenges: Understand how career interruptions due to health or family leave impact women's careers and what organizations can do to support them. Foster Open Communication: Create environments where employees feel empowered to share challenges without fear of judgment. Support Career Growth: Help women future-proof their careers by advocating for fair policies, promoting leadership development, and addressing workplace biases. Prioritize Self-Advocacy and Allyship: Encourage women to advocate for themselves while fostering a culture of mutual support and inclusion. Episode Highlights: 01:16 – Challenges Women Face in the Workplace 01:54 – Finding Your Voice and Addressing Performance Issues 06:00 – Personal Story: Navigating Health Issues at Work 09:59 – Return to Work and Remote Work Challenges 13:24 – Navigating Work During COVID-19 14:35 – Family Leave and Career Impact 17:13 – Future-Proofing Your Career 18:47 – Addressing Anxiety and Self-Improvement 19:56 – Challenges of Menopause in the Workplace 25:00 – Advocating for Yourself and Others Guest: Dena Singleton is the Chief People Officer at Kajabi, a leading platform empowering creators to build, market, and sell online courses and content. With a career spanning over two decades in human resources and organizational leadership, Dena excels in driving people-first strategies that align with business goals. Her expertise includes scaling teams, fostering inclusive cultures, and leading through transformational change. Dena is passionate about creating environments where employees thrive and businesses succeed, leveraging her deep knowledge of talent development, DEI initiatives, and strategic workforce planning. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hellofromdena/ ---- Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Talent Tango. We would appreciate it if you would take a minute to rate and review us on your favorite podcast player. Want to learn more about us? Head over at https://www.elevano.com Have questions or want to cover specific topics with our future guests? Please message me at https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand)

    28 min
  8. Mastering Storytelling in Talent Acquisition

    11/13/2024

    Mastering Storytelling in Talent Acquisition

    In this episode, Amir Bormand sits down with Loren Boyce, VP of Talent Acquisition at M13, to dive into the art of storytelling in recruiting. They explore how effective storytelling can transform hiring processes, align teams, and attract top talent. Whether you’re a founder, a hiring manager, or in the talent space, this episode is packed with actionable insights on bridging the gap between job descriptions and the human experience. Key Takeaways: Start the Story at the Beginning: Great storytelling begins when you first conceptualize the role, helping align hiring managers and candidates with the mission. Job Descriptions Need Magic: Avoid sterile, bullet-heavy job descriptions. Infuse them with the company’s passion, challenges, and goals to attract the right fit. Recruiting is Marketing: Treat the hiring process as a marketing effort, focusing on authenticity and alignment rather than a transactional approach. Understand Candidate Motivations: By engaging in meaningful conversations about what excites and drains candidates, you create authentic connections. Context Over Credentials: Instead of focusing solely on qualifications, highlight the impact and opportunities the role provides. Timestamped Highlights: [00:00:00] Introduction to Loren Boyce and the theme of storytelling in recruiting. [00:02:07] Why storytelling aligns teams and creates better hiring processes. [00:04:36] Metrics-driven recruiting vs. holistic approaches to finding the right fit. [00:06:35] The pitfalls of sterile job descriptions and the power of narrative-driven roles. [00:09:53] How to weave expectations and growth opportunities into the job story. [00:12:44] Addressing challenges and being transparent during the recruiting process. [00:16:15] Insights from tech recruiting: Context over technical jargon. [00:18:25] How to connect with Loren for more tips on impactful hiring practices. Quote of the Episode: "Great storytelling in recruiting is about aligning the role’s mission with the candidate’s aspirations, creating a shared vision for success." – Loren Boyce Connect with Loren Boyce: Loren Boyce is a recruiter and talent acquisition leader who has helped companies like VMware, DigitalOcean, and Toast build and scale their teams in preparation for their IPOs. In 2020, she joined M13, an LA + NY-based venture capital firm, as VP of Talent Acquisition. Loren works with M13 portfolio company founders and their teams to help them build their dream teams. Her approach offers a simple structure and a customizable process for driving alignment and making better hiring decisions. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorenboyce/ Action Items: Share this episode with fellow recruiters or hiring managers passionate about improving storytelling in talent acquisition. Like, subscribe, and comment to keep the conversation going. Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Talent Tango. We would appreciate it if you would take a minute to rate and review us on your favorite podcast player.

    20 min
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