Ungovernable Misfits Max BBB

Welcome to the The Confab, the term derives from "confidential talk", which was commonly used in the Prohibition Era for meetings and conversations that took place in the smoky, rule-breaking speakeasies of that time.

The informal, privacy focused and clandestine nature of Ungovernable Misfits lends itself to these discussions.  So, grab a seat and a stiff drink from the concealed bar, listen and revel in the conversation.

On this episode, Urban Hacker drops-in to speak with Max

Show Discussion

I. The Importance of Privacy in Bitcoin
   A. Explanation of Bitcoin's transparent nature and UTXO model
   B. Risks of public transaction history
      1. Physical security risks from revealing wealth
      2. Liability for others' misuse of your Bitcoin
   C. Comparison to privacy in traditional financial systems

II. The Loss of Privacy Tools
   A. The shutdown of Samourai Wallet, Whirlpool, and Wasabi
   B. Expressing concern over the lack of pushback and people cheering the loss of these tools
   C. Acknowledging the bravery of the developers who were arrested

III. Advice for Users Affected by the Loss of Privacy Tools
   A. Recommendations for users with funds in Samourai Wallet
      1. Do not panic, funds are safe
      2. Disable auto-update, consider restoring to a new device
      3. Prioritize using your own Dojo or setting up a new node
   B. Discussing the privacy implications of using Wasabi going forward
      1. Technical limitations and centralization concerns
      2. Potential for further shutdowns

IV. Exploring Alternative Privacy Solutions
   A. JoinMarket
      1. How it works, maker-taker model
      2. Challenges around liquidity and fixed denominations
      3. Potential for collaborative setups
   B. Using Monero
      1. Benefits of Monero's privacy-by-default approach
      2. Considerations around KYC, exchange interactions, and node operation
      3. Recommendations for using Monero as a spending tool

V. Call to Action and Closing
   A. Encouraging people to take privacy seriously and not give up
   B. Highlighting the importance of running your own node
   C. Offering help and consulting services from the guest, Urban Hacker
   D. Wrap-up and appreciation for the guest's time and insights


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IMPORTANT LINKS 
https://freesamourai.comhttps://p2prights.org/donate.htmlhttps://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68467223/united-states-v-rodriguez/https://x.com/frankcorva/status/1795509090946363682
SHOW SPONSORS

FOUNDATION (https://foundationdevices.com/ungovernable)

Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.

As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil,”

Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show.

Use code: Ungovernable at check out for 3 months free VPN usage with IVPN.


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(00:00:00) INTRO 🔥
(00:01:56) DONATE TO THE SAMOURAI LEGAL FUND 💰
(00:02:44) ⚡ BOOSTS ⚡
(00:04:59) THANK YOU FOUNDATION D

Welcome to the The Confab, the term derives from "confidential talk", which was commonly used in the Prohibition Era for meetings and conversations that took place in the smoky, rule-breaking speakeasies of that time.

The informal, privacy focused and clandestine nature of Ungovernable Misfits lends itself to these discussions.  So, grab a seat and a stiff drink from the concealed bar, listen and revel in the conversation.

On this episode, Diverter and Zelko drop-in to speak with Max about what happened to Samourai Wallet and TDevD, the broader implications and where do we go from here...

Show Discussion

The Aftermath and Emotional Rollercoaster

- Discussing the initial reaction and shock to the news about the Samourai Wallet team
- Exploring the feelings of disbelief, worry, and determination

Understanding the Gravity of the Situation

- Analyzing the broader implications and the attack on self-custody and privacy
- Explaining how this goes beyond just Samourai Wallet and is a wider assault on Bitcoin principles

The Chilling Effect and Uncertain Future

- Discussing the fear and hesitation developers may have in building privacy tools
- Exploring the potential domino effect on other privacy-focused projects like Monero

The Fight Ahead and the Need to Rally

- Emphasizing that the legal battle is not lost yet and the importance of supporting Samourai
- Highlighting the role of the community in donating, spreading awareness, and not giving up

The Power of Open Source and Decentralization

- Discussing how the open-source nature of Samourai's work can enable forks and continuity
- Exploring the potential for anonymous or older cypherpunk developers to step up

Cautious Optimism and the Path Forward

- Ending on a note of determination and belief that the fight is not over
- Encouraging the community to stay focused, engaged, and ready to support the ongoing efforts



IMPORTANT LINKS




https://freesamourai.comhttps://p2prights.org/donate.htmlhttps://ronindojo.io/always-rise-after-a-fall/https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68467223/united-states-v-rodriguez/https://x.com/frankcorva/status/1795509090946363682
SHOW SPONSORS

FOUNDATION (https://foundationdevices.com/ungovernable)

Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.

As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil,”

Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show.

Use code: Ungovernable at check out for 3 months free VPN usage with IVPN.


Thanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.

You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.

TIME:

- create fountain clips for the show
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TALENT:

- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music
- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better
- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!

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- BOOST IT on the Podcasting 2.0 apps (https://podcastapps.com)
- STREAM SATS
- DONATE via Paynym @ https://paynym.is/+maxbuybit
- BUY SOME CLOTHING @ https://ungovernablemisfits.com/store/


(00:00:00) INTRO 🔥
(00:02:38) BOOSTS ⚡️
(00:06:40) THANK YOU FOUNDATION 🤝
(00:07:49) Please Wait While We Connect Your Call...
(00:10:02) From High in the Sky to Low on Landing
(00:12:48) The Only Ones Holding the Line
(00:15:11) Compartmentalized to ☠️
(00:18:58) How Do You Get People to Care!?
(00:28:17) What's Left in the Wake?
(00:41:35) Following the "Guidance" of the Law
(00:47:26) The Path is Clear
(00:53:57) Support in Any Way You Can
(00:58:27) You Don't Jaywalk, When You're Committing Other Crimes
(01:02:43) Samourai Still Works, Use It
(01:04:21) Ronin Dojo Announcement
(01:07:23) Validation of Open

WHAT'S THIS SHOW ALL ABOUT?

Bitcoin monthly is a show hosted by Max, Bitcoin QnA and Antomous Brother Rabbit. We cover important updates in the world of bitcoin and open source software. It is our imperative to provide some education along the way too, so that the misfits can expand their knowledge base and become more sovereign as a result.

We do this monthly to keep listeners informed without having to dedicate hours every day to keep on top of developments. We break things down in a simple and fun way and we welcome questions or topic suggestions via Podcasting 2.0 boosts.


Thanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.

You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.

TIME:

- create fountain clips for the show
- create a meetup
- help boost the signal on social media

TALENT:

- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music
- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better
- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!

TREASURE:

- BOOST IT on the Podcasting 2.0 apps (https://podcastapps.com)
- STREAM SATS
- DONATE via Paynym @ https://paynym.is/+maxbuybit
- BUY SOME CLOTHING @ https://ungovernablemisfits.com/store/


NEWS



https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/tornado-cash-developer-alexey-pertsev-sentenced-to-64-months-in-prison-in-the-netherlands/https://freedom.tech/tornado-cash-developer-convicted/https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/fbi-warns-americans-against-using-no-kyc-services/https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/phoenix-wallet-to-be-removed-from-us-app-stores-on-may-3/https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/zksnacks-to-suspend-its-coinjoin-coordination-service-on-june-1st/https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/agoradesk-localmonero-shutting-down/https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/ibex-pay-quits-us/

SOFTWARE & UPDATES



https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/samourai-dojo-v1-25-0/https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/hodl-hodl-introduces-new-interface/https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/mutiny-wallet-v1-7-0/https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/robosats-v0-6-1-alpha/https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/zeus-v0-8-4/https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/bitcoin-keeper-v1-2-6/https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/blockstream-green-desktop-v2-0-5/https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/bluewallet-v6-6-5/https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/sentrum-v0-1-8/https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/utreexod-v0-3-1/https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/sparrow-wallet-v1-9-1/https://twitter.com/stack_wallet/status/1790792348638515586https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/ocean-pool-integrates-bolt12-lightning-payouts/https://silentpayments.xyz/docs/explained/


SHOW SPONSORS


FOUNDATION (https://foundationdevices.com/ungovernable)

Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.

As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil,”

Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show.

Use code: Ungovernable at check out for 3 months free VPN usage with IVPN.

(00:00:00) INTRO 🔥
(00:01:42) THANK YOU UNGOVERNABLE MISFITS
(00:02:30) THANKS TO FOUNDATION
(00:03:51) Burning the Midnight Oil
(00:05:04) Bitcoin Monthly Boosters
(00:15:59) CLOSING TIME: Wasabi, Agora Desk/Localmonero, Phoenix & Ibex
(00:21:11) Put Some Respect On Their Names
(00:25:42) Tornado Cash Dev Sentenced to 5 Years in Prison
(00:33:35) Robosats on Android Update
(00:34:49) Sparrow Wallet Ditches the Old Testnet
(00:37:40) "Fiddley F*****g C**t"
(00:40:15) Stack Wallet Gets FROSTY
(00:43:28) The "Dumb" Question Before the Questions
(00:47:16) Q1: Samourai Alternatives
(00:51:19) Q2: Release the Code
(00:52:42) Q3: What's Up W/ Wasabi?
(00:52:52) Q4: Lightning Tradeoffs
(00:57:36) Q5: Privacy on Lightning
(00:57:49) Q6: What are Silent Payments?
(01:05:41) Q7: Is My Face Scanning Lifestyle Risky?
(01:06:17) Q8: Silent Payments VS. Paynym
(01:06:24) Q9: Greedy Jacky
(01:08:42) Q10: Side-e

**NEW EDIT - THIS ONE WORKS**

ACTION NEWS!!! Is your source for news on the #Bitcoin mining scene! Statistics, #Bitcoinmining news, energy market alpha, comedy relief and as always, witty banter between Jon and Max.

Gear Up!! Ungovernable Misfits style! Sun’s Out! Guns Out! Get you FAFO T-Shirt here.

Intro Music: Husker Du - Divide and Conquer

In this episode we deep dive into Statistics, particularly cost to mine statistics, read another excellent Bitcoin Bugle Article, get an energy lesson from Bassload, and get skinny on the mining industry from Altair. We also cover self-appointed Bitcoin saviors who no one wants or asked for. BIP-47 is alive and well, PayNyms still work! Powerful forces of seek to divide and conquer, not just factions within the Bitcoin and Sovereignty communities, but humanity. Resist these physical and spiritual attacks with knowledge!


We begin this episode as we do all shows, by communicating with all of you via podcasting 2.0 boosts. Be sure to Boost on the podcasting 2.0 app of your choice. At Ungovernable Misfits we offer a feature rich podcasting 2.0 experience.


Lincoin Mining brings you Statistics like: global hashrate, hash price, hash value, tx fees, and more. Lincoin has made some changes to their payout structures. Minimum payout is now .0001 for lightning and .005 for on chain, make changes as necessary.


The statistics section of this episode of intense, best to listen with a pencil, paper, and calculator in hand. Operating a 1PH bitcoin mining setup, focusing solely on electricity costs at a rate of $0.07 per kWh, requires 20 kW of power, resulting in a daily electricity expense of $33. This generates $50 in Bitcoin daily, leading to a profit of $16.40 per day or approximately $500 per month, excluding significant additional costs for equipment and containers. Listen for even more cost to mine breakdown. We also breakdown an off-grid solar mining setup with data received from a Pleb who is trying it, $8,500, including panels, control box, batteries, a tracker, and mining hardware. Despite these investments, the system, with limited 33% uptime, generates approximately $100 per month in Bitcoin, with 2-year monthly loan expenses of $350 at best. Mining has its challenges, and we feature this cost to mine breakdown in order to give listeners a better understanding of the operational costs of various scale and type of mining operations.


ACTION NEWS!!! Has ACTION PACKED Sponsors
Bifrost ManufacturingAltair Bitcoin Mining Solutions use promo code: UNGOVERNABLELake Satoshi Bitcoin Beach Retreat

Jon reviews an article by Richard Greaser of the Bitcoin Bugle Mass Non-Compliance Erupts Wait Until the People Who Just Want to Comply and Be Left Alone Get Involved.

This Bugle article has been brought to you by your friends at PODCONF.


PSA Ungovernable Misfits is NOT PODCONF approved, we encourage you to tune into PODCONF approved podcasts like “What the Bitcoins do” “Why We are B******t” and the “Swan News Happy Hour” We at PODCONF boast a growing list of PODCONF approved and trained journalists like Natalie Brunells, Stephan Librara, and Pete Rizzler, who are guaranteed to provide accurate, peer reviewed, and compliant Bitcoin content, free of disinformation.


Continued listening to non PODCONF approved pods like Ungovernable Misfits may cause the following side effects: restlessness, curiosity, skepticism, autonomy, sovereignty, defiance, kinship, competence, proficiency, enlightenment, wisdom, self-determination, and overall…nonconformity.


At PODCONF, we only want the best for you, and the Children, as we believe, they are the future.


Altair gives us the skinny on the mining industry: Square is entering the Bitcoin mining ASIC space, challenging industry leaders like Bitmain and Whatsminer by announcing their own ASIC chip designs, potentially increasing competition as well-capitalized players like Sealminer and Block enter the market.


Bitcoin Bassload

What does this episode of P.M.M. stand for?
Parallel-Economies Meshtadels and Micro-Communities
Picturesque vs Modern architectural Monstrosities.
Psychological Warfare, Maintaining Morale, and Mental Resilience.


What’s been going on with the Meshtadel?
Karl from Karl’s Korner posed the question in the Meshtadel, "What do you say to someone who claims they're happy to pay their fair share of taxes?" Is participating in the fiat system moral, especially considering taxes fund wars and are used punitively by the forces of evil to control and regulate? Is gaming the system moral while dismantling it, or should one opt out entirely? These same little tyrants who use taxes as a system of control also use religion used as a system of control, such as "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's."


Springtime planting brings gardening and new life, particularly lambs and chicks.


How did you spend the HalFinning? For me (Jon), it was with the Noderunners, Meshtadel, and the Pleb Miner Mafia groups. We watched as the transactions rolled in


Parallel-Economies Meshtadels and Micro-Communities (Bert and Gurtis conversation)

Bert and Gurtis discuss building parallel economies on Bitcoin and trading within Meshtadels as crucial strategies for establishing resilient, independent networks or intentiaonal communities. fostering strong, small communities centered on family values and emphasizes sourcing healthy, sustainable food all while trading on a Bitcoin standard. While countries like the Netherlands produce large quantities of food, the intensive farming cycle dependent on petro-chemicals is depleting the soil, highlighting the need for more permaculture and regenerative agriculture-based practices. Gurtis makes the point that during societal collapse, it's impractical to attempt to save everyone; instead, it's important to prepare for people arriving at these parallel economies, whether they bring positive or negative intentions.


Picturesque vs Modern architectural Monstrosities.

Urban Hacker examines modern architecture from the lens that it is demoralizing, lacking the engagement that video games and movies create as movies and video games must please their audiences to make a profit. Art should reflect the people, and both art and architecture should align with the area, rather than erecting edifices to the state or the designer, without considering the local context. The Dune movie, for instance, offers architecture that thoughtfully integrates into its setting. In contrast, Le Corbusier's designs were criticized as large, unattractive structures that disregard local nuances.


Psychological Warfare, Maintaining Morale, and Mental Resilience.
The People Aren't As Retarded As They Seem by Charles-François-Bienvenu Myriel

Continuing in the spirit of his previous articles on demoralization - Ungovernable Misfits staff writer Charles Myriel presents a compelling argument that Misfits as well as normies are engaged in a battle between good and evil. We must be aware of narratives controlled by global elite and facilitated by their lap-dog media goonie, religious cults of personality, and pseudo-intellectuals. These forces attempt to shape, control, or ‘nudge’ society's thinking, particularly in the context of mUhCoViDNaruTive, where censorship and manipulation were used to control dissent. Despite these challenges, there is a call to recognize the victories of resisting oppressive control and maintaining a positive outlook. Charles equips us with resolve to resist demoralization and offering alternatives that uplift our spirit. Our should inherently desire freedom. This article is a rallying cry to stay optimistic, find like-minded Meshtadelians, and avoid surrendering to despair, as each person has the potential to influence positive change in the resistance movement to global slavery.



Thanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.

You can support

WHAT'S THIS SHOW ALL ABOUT?


Bitcoin monthly is a show hosted by Max, Bitcoin QnA and Antomous Brother Rabbit. We cover important updates in the world of bitcoin and open source software. It is our imperative to provide some education along the way too, so that the misfits can expand their knowledge base and become more sovereign as a result.

We do this monthly to keep listeners informed without having to dedicate hours every day to keep on top of developments. We break things down in a simple and fun way and we welcome questions or topic suggestions via Podcasting 2.0 boosts.


NEWS



#FREESAMOURAI https://episodes.fm/1491067458/episode/ZWRhN2EzN2MtYTk5ZC00ODY2LTg5NjctZGE3MWY2YzUzZmM4
SOFTWARE & UPDATES



BlueWallet https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/bluewallet-v6-6-2/
Bitcoin Core https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/bitcoin-core-v0-27/
Umbrel 1.0 https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/umbrelos-v1-0/)
WHACK A MOLE - SAMOURAI https://blog.samourai.is/decentralized-whirlpool-stage-1/?ref=nobsbitcoin.com
Phoenixd - https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/phoenixd-released/
BTCPay 1.13.0 - https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/btcpay-server-v1-13-0/
Bitcoin Keeper v1.2.3 - https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/bitcoin-keeper-v1-2-3/
Nunchuk - https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/nunchuk-desktop-v1-9-31-android-v1-9-43-ios-v1-9-41/
Sparrow 1.8.5 - https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/sparrow-wallet-v1-8-5/
Bisq 2 is in Beta - https://bisq.network/blog/bisq-2-now-in-beta/)
ZEUS v0.8.3 - https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/zeus-v0-8-3/
BOOSTS



Apemithrandir (17777)

Bisq Easy protocol is purely reputation based. The buyer sends fiat first and seller releases BTC. Sellers can import aged Bisq 1 accounts, burn or bond BSQ to gain reputation. Min 30k seller reputation score is recommended to buy from a seller. You can get a max of 15k from importing aged Bisq acc. You get 100 per BSQ burned, 10 per BSQ bonded for a year.

Expatriotic (10000)

Haven't gotten through them all of yours yet because I've added a few mining podcasts and now autistically going through all of their episodes start to finish.

LonelyPumpkins (2500 x 3)

great rip gents
great rip gents
great rip gents

BaaaaarnMiner (5493)

Oh Jesus you put a McCuck sample in UM rip. If I could take sats from you I would. & pay BR cuz 4 you're cunty ignorance

Wartime (3333)

🔥🍻

Chadf (3333)

Great episode and pure signal as always. 🤘

Bon (2222)

Thanks for another one guys. see you next month.

Soulex (2100)

great work guys ❤️‍🔥 thanks for all you do

Piez (420 x 2)

🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Hola you bloody cunts!!!!!!!

Maxwood (100)

Antomous Antomous Antomous what's going wrong

SHOW SPONSORS


FOUNDATION (https://foundationdevices.com/ungovernable)

Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.

As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil,”

Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show.

Use code: Ungovernable at check out for 3 months free VPN usage with IVPN.



Ronindojo (https://shop.ronindojo.io/?coupon=ungovernable)

Want the best opensource node in the world? Here’s some money off and you can help support the show at the same time.

 Use code: Ungovernable

(00:00:00) INTRO 🔥
(00:02:29) THANK YOU FOUNDATION 🤝
(00:03:53) 🎵 Just the Two of Us 🎵
(00:06:08) Have Fun Staying Hungover 🍻
(00:09:04) Sometimes There's a Reason to Update Core
(00:13:35) Bless Saylor as He Watcheth O'er the Protocol
(00:16:46) Bluewallet Housekeeping
(00:17:03) Umbrel Overhauls UI in 1.0 Release
(00:19:35) BOOSTS: Where's the Professionalism?! 🤷
(00:22:25) QnA is a True 2.0 Podcaster
(00:25:37) WHACK A MOLE: Decentralized Whirlpool (Stage 1)
(00:29:04) SPARROW: Max's First Feature Request
(00:34:24) Phoenixd: A Possible Node Pac