The TreppWire Podcast: A Commercial Real Estate Show

The TreppWire Podcast, A CRE Show
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Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking. Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants. Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.

  1. 1d ago

    422. From the Fed to FedEx: Warsh’s First Rate Hike, $6.6B in Amazon/FedEx Exposure, and Three Paths for Office

    In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we break down the Fed's unanimous 25-basis-point hike, its first increase in three years, and what a 10-year Treasury above 5% means for CRE when oil, not demand, is driving inflation. We cover a robust retail sales report, businesses struggling to set prices, and new termination risk in GSA leases from anti-DEI provisions. We dig into new Trepp research on $6.6 billion of industrial CMBS exposure tied to Amazon and FedEx, including FedEx lease rollover ahead of loan maturity. We also discuss Hines and Rialto's $1.1 billion office credit fund, a partial office-to-residential conversion in Lower Manhattan, a major LA office extension, a Manhattan office transfer to special servicing, and new data center and retail deals. Tune in now. Episode notes: (00:00) Intro & Economic Update(22:38) Federal Government Lease Risk(27:37) Hines & Rialto $1.1B Office Fund(30:22) Amazon & FedEx Industrial Exposure(41:04) Office: Conversion, Extension & Transfer(49:10) Data Center & Retail Deals(54:25) Programming Notes(56:27) Shoutouts Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: X: www.x.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

  2. Sep 11

    421. Beyond the Headlines: Office Distress, a $30.6B Multifamily Maturity Test, & Western CRE’s Mixed Signals | LIVE at California MBA's WSCREF

    In a special live edition of The TreppWire Podcast recorded at the California MBA Western States CREF conference, we dig into why today’s CRE market can seem so contradictory and what the data says when you look beyond the national headlines. We break down the three clocks driving CRE today: property performance, capital markets, and credit. We examine the uneven Western office recovery, life sciences distress, why Western multifamily is outperforming the Sun Belt despite a $30.6 billion maturity test, and whether self-storage is flashing an early warning for housing. Plus, we follow two properties through very different cycles to show how performance, value, and credit can tell completely different stories. Tune in now. Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: X: www.x.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

  3. Sep 8

    420. The Art of Storytelling in Commercial Real Estate with Spencer Levy, Host of CBRE’s The Weekly Take

    In this special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we are joined by Spencer Levy, Global Client Strategist and Senior Economic Advisor at CBRE and host of CBRE's podcast, The Weekly Take. Spencer shares how his diverse career spanning law, investment banking, and capital markets shapes his perspective on the commercial real estate industry and the trends influencing today's market. Throughout the conversation, Spencer emphasizes the value of relationships, communication, and strategic thinking, particularly in landlord-tenant dynamics and business decision-making. He offers insights into the current commercial real estate environment, discussing the impact of sustained high interest rates and the industry's growing focus on NOI growth and revenue generation over exit cap rates. Spencer also explores the power of storytelling, drawing on his experience hosting The Weekly Take, and explains how podcasting has expanded his network, credibility, and reach across the industry. Tune in now. Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: X: www.x.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

    420. The Art of Storytelling in Commercial Real Estate with Spencer Levy, Host of CBRE’s The Weekly Take

  4. Sep 4

    419. Back to School, Back to Price Discovery: The 5% Treasury Test, College Football’s $6.1B Student Housing Connection

    In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we break down the latest moves in rates and capital markets as the 10-year Treasury approaches 5%. We discuss what higher long-term yields mean for CRE and why capital continues to move despite the higher-rate environment. In Digging Through the Data, we kick off college football season with a surprising look at $6.1 billion of securitized student housing debt near AP Top 25 schools and debate the long-term outlook for student versus senior housing. We also cover Ares and Scion's $435 million student housing acquisition, a Houston multifamily loan in special servicing despite 93% occupancy, two very different office stories, major industrial portfolio activity, and a surprise mall payoff despite a nearly 50% drop in appraised value. Tune in now. Episode notes: (00:00) Economic Update(13:00) College Football & Student Housing(25:30) Student Housing Deals & Outlook(35:35) Multifamily & Office Stories(44:43) Industrial & Retail Stories(51:06) Programming Notes(53:11) Shoutouts Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: X: www.x.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

  5. Sep 1

    418. How CRE Lending is Changing: Bigger Deals, Data Center Capital, & AI with Catherine Sierakowski, BMO Capital Markets

    In this special guest episode of the TreppWire Podcast, we sit down with Catherine Sierakowski, Managing Director & Group Head of Corporate Banking, North American Real Estate at BMO Capital Markets. Catherine reflects on her nearly 20-year career at BMO, from starting in banking during the Global Financial Crisis to helping build the firm's institutional real estate platform and now leading its North American real estate corporate banking business. We discuss how CRE lending has evolved from traditional balance sheet lending to more strategic capital solutions, along with where Catherine sees opportunity in today’s CRE market. We explore the explosive growth of the data center sector and the unique challenges of financing assets that sit at the intersection of real estate, technology, power, and corporate credit. Catherine shares her perspective on relationship-driven lending, effective client engagement, and the importance of balancing AI-driven insights with experienced human judgment. Tune in now. Episode Notes • Start at BMO (0:00) • Real Estate Cycles (4:20) • BMO Banking Strategy (8:23) • Massive Data Center Deals Pricing (15:56) • Where to Find Opportunity in CRE (24:54) • How Transforms Lending (28:32) • Shoutouts & Closing (33:40) Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: X: www.x.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

    418. How CRE Lending is Changing: Bigger Deals, Data Center Capital, & AI with Catherine Sierakowski, BMO Capital Markets

  6. Aug 28

    417. Who Writes the Next Check? Fund Redemptions, Cash-Out Refinancing Trends, & CRE Workouts

    In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we break down the latest PCE inflation data and what the fine print could mean for rates, plus new Canadian tariffs and another potential hit to construction costs. We also cover Dick’s Sporting Goods’ record stock drop and continued struggles at Foot Locker, Google’s unusual $10 million purchase of Spirit Airlines’ internal corporate data, and the $2.2 billion redemption queue testing liquidity at Invesco’s real estate fund. We dig into the return of cash-out refinancing, and why today’s borrowers are taking less equity off the table than they did at the market peak. We close with five CRE distress stories that trace the spectrum of outcomes for impaired assets, from successful modifications and fresh equity buying time to sponsor liquidity shortfalls, foreclosure, and a staggering 98% valuation cut. Tune in now. Episode notes: () Macro Update: PCE Inflation, Rounding & Rate Outlook () Canadian Tariffs Add to Construction Cost Pressures () Dick's Sporting Goods' Record Drop & Foot Locker Weakness () Google's $10M Purchase of Spirit Airlines' Data () Invesco's $2.2B Redemption Queue ()Cash-In vs. Cash-Out Refinancing () Five CRE Distress Stories: Who Writes the Next Check? () Programming Notes () Shoutouts Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: X: www.x.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

  7. Aug 21

    416. The Bond Market Bites Back: Treasury Intervention, AI’s $3 Trillion Bet, Office Loans Below Breakeven, & Forced CRE Sales

    In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we unpack a volatile week in the bond market as the 30-year Treasury yield climbed above 5.3%, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent stepped in with expanded long-term buybacks, and much of the initial market reaction quickly reversed. We discuss what the move says about the battle over long-term rates, growing capital demands, and whether the Fed's next move could actually be a hike. In AI, increasingly complex financing structures and roughly $3 trillion in off-balance-sheet commitments are raising new questions about leverage, interconnected risk, and just how much has to go right for the infrastructure boom to pay off. We then examine $12.1 billion of performing securitized office loans with DSCRs below 1.0x, including surprisingly well-occupied properties, and the maturity wall that could force borrowers to confront those cash-flow shortfalls. We close with major CRE transactions, including Rexford Industrial's $1.2 billion portfolio sale and a wave of maturity- and distress-driven hotel sales in California. Tune in now. Episode notes: (00:00) Macro Update: Yields, Buybacks & Fed Hike Talk (11:28) Goldman Sachs Buys LCN Capital (16:54) Data Center Deals & $3T Commitments (28:07) Office Loans Below Breakeven (37:19) Rexford's $1.2B Sale & Hotel Distress (42:50) Programming Notes (44:31) Shoutouts Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com.      Follow Trepp:   X: www.x.com/TreppWire  LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

  8. Aug 18

    415. The Retail Story Everyone Gets Wrong with Jim Dillavou, Paragon Commercial Group

    In this special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we are joined by Jim Dillavou, co-founder and principal at Paragon Commercial Group, a retail investment and development firm. Jim left a career as a real estate and finance attorney to launch Paragon after the global financial crisis, betting on necessity retail when almost no one else wanted the asset class. He explains why treating retail as one asset class is misleading, and how grocery-anchored centers built on daily trips deliver durable cashflow across cycles. Jim also walks us through why institutional capital is lining up for the sector and still struggling to get in. We cover the value-add work most investors avoid, from repositioning drugstore boxes and out parcels to vetting mom-and-pop tenants with no credit behind them. Jim closes with what COVID revealed about tenant quality and why he believes this is not a guesswork business. Tune in now. Episode notes: • From Big Law to Buying Retail in the GFC (1:17) • Defining Necessity Retail & Why Nuance Matters (3:23) • Why Capital Cannot Easily Get Into the Sector (7:00) • Fixed Rent Bumps & the Shift to Risk-Off Capital (9:34) • Retailer Failures, Mark-to-Market Upside & an Operator's Market (14:44) • Value-Add Playbook: Demising Boxes, Drugstores & Out Parcels (20:28) • Tenant Mix, Cross-Shopping & the Mom-and-Pop Surprise (25:41) • Vetting Non-Credit Tenants, Elbow Space & Final Take (31:24) Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com.      Follow Trepp:   X: www.x.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

    415. The Retail Story Everyone Gets Wrong with Jim Dillavou, Paragon Commercial Group
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Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking. Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants. Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.

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