The Big Exit Show

Peak
The Big Exit Show

Are you a founder looking to sell your company, or already in the process of doing so? In The Big Exit Show by Peak and NP-Hard with our hosts Johan van Mil and Anke Huiskes talk to entrepreneurs about scaling their companies and the route to making a successful exit. They bring you real stories, valuable insights, and expert advice from entrepreneurs who have successfully exited their business. Learn what to expect, avoid common pitfalls, and get inspired to achieve your own big exit! 🔥 Subscribe now to stay ahead in your journey and get actionable tips from those who’ve been there before.

  1. Navigating Acquisition and Growth Hurdles: Ferdinand Goetzen's Reveall Journey

    12/19/2024

    Navigating Acquisition and Growth Hurdles: Ferdinand Goetzen's Reveall Journey

    In this episode, hosts Johan and Anke dive into the intriguing journey of Ferdinand Goetzen and his company Reveall. Ferdinand discusses the rapid growth, acquisition challenges, and strategic pivots that shaped the company over a short two-year period. From acquiring initial technology to adapting amid market volatility and eventually securing an acquisition, Ferdinand shares valuable insights on the dynamics of startup growth, fundraising difficulties, and the critical role of transparency and team morale in navigating these challenges. This episode offers a comprehensive look at the complexities of entrepreneurship and the importance of strategic decision-making in the path to a successful exit. This is where we talk about: 00:00 Introduction and Key Takeaways 01:34 Starting Reveall: The Unique Journey 02:48 Building the Customer Insights Platform 05:27 Challenges and Realizations 14:40 Fundraising and Market Dynamics 18:45 Lessons Learned and Future Recommendations 26:37 Reflecting on Early Decisions 27:48 Facing Financial Realities 28:47 Pivots and Market Challenges 31:25 The AI Insight Generation Pivot 33:11 Exploring Acquisition Options 34:49 Negotiating the Deal 37:05 Team Transparency and Transition 45:39 Launching a New Venture 48:20 Final Thoughts and Farewell  Want to know Ferdinand Goetzen better:Ferdinand Goetzen is a Founding Partner of The Growth Syndicate where he’s aiming to build the go-to brand for b2b rounds and professional looking to unlock scalable growth. He is the former CEO and Co-Founder of Reveall (acquired by NEXT) - a platform that allowed product teams to better prioritize what to build next with the help of customer insights. Previously, he was the Director of Growth at (3D) Hubs and the Chief Growth Officer at Recruitee (both exited in 2021). He is passionate about customer-led products and growth and is regularly featured at leading events and podcasts. He has helped countless companies, from the likes of PipeDrive to KLM, develop and implement strategies for growth. Connect with him on LinkedIn The Big Exit Show is an initiative by Peak and NP-Hard. Want to know more about Peak and the ventures we back? Check out our website. Want to know more about NP-Hard? Have a look at our website. Please follow our podcast page on LinkedIn, you will now first when a new episode is coming. Feedback for our podcast or want to be featured on our show? Please reach out at podcast@peak.capital.

    50 min
  2. Navigating Highs and Lows: Manoj Adithya's Journey to a $55 Million Acquisition Offer

    11/28/2024

    Navigating Highs and Lows: Manoj Adithya's Journey to a $55 Million Acquisition Offer

    In today's episode, hosts Anke and Johan engage in a deeply reflective conversation with Manoj Adithya, the founder who sold his company, Roam AI, last December. Manoj walks us through a journey characterized by high-stakes decisions, ethical dilemmas, and the immense pressure of aligning his team and maintaining investor relations. He reveals the painstaking process of pivoting a location-based messaging app into a sophisticated location tracking enterprise, and the significant challenges faced during acquisition negotiations — including offers that fell through at the eleventh hour and the ethical stance he took in rejecting dubious deals that sidelined investors. This episode provides a sobering look into the strategic and emotional complexities of startup life, highlighting the importance of maintaining a moral compass, leveraging mentorship, and the transformative potential of rebranding. Manoj’s story is one of resilience, offering valuable insights on navigating the unpredictable landscape of acquisitions, transparency during due diligence, and fostering investor trust. Join us for an episode that delves into the profound lessons learned from Manoj’s entrepreneurial journey, the essential role of ethical decision-making, and the critical preparation needed for successful exits. This is The Big Exit Show. This is what you will hear: 00:00 Excited to discuss Roam AI's beginnings and acquisition. 04:10 Location tracking tech pivoted into GeoSpark platform. 09:52 Launched platform, gained 5,600 signups, proved success. 11:09 Persistence secured investment after regular progress updates. 16:36 Rebranding due to lawsuit improved business perception. 17:20 Increased interest led to partnerships and decisions. 22:24 Wanted proof of funds; they couldn't provide. 23:38 Avoid distractions; maintain balance and focus. 28:32 Walking away was difficult but necessary decision. 30:16 Talk to mentors and walk to de-stress. 34:39 Extensive due diligence required detailed document preparation. 37:45 Echo analytics acquired Roam AI, a startup. 42:11 Deal with Echo almost failed; signed rollercoaster. 44:05 Stay prepared; research companies; highlight synergistic potential. 46:42 Starting company; expanding podcast operations and studio. Want to know more about Manoj Adithya: Manoj launched his entrepreneurial journey with the inception of a company originally named Holo. The innovative idea behind Holo was to create a location-based messaging app, allowing users to leave messages for friends and family at specific locations, which would get triggered and notified upon arrival. The concept gained considerable traction, amassing around 20,000 users at its peak. As the company evolved, it was rebranded as Roam AI, showcasing Manoj's knack for adapting and innovating within the tech landscape. His story is one of creative vision and strategic growth, marking him as a notable figure in the entrepreneurial space. Connect with him on LinkedIn The Big Exit Show is an initiative by Peak and NP-Hard. Want to know more about Peak and the ventures we back? Check out our website. Want to know more about NP-Hard? Have a look at our website. Feedback for our podcast or want to be featured on our show? Please reach out at podcast@peak.capital.

    45 min
  3. Building Legacies: Successful Exits and Ethical Conduct in Business with Josef Brunner

    11/07/2024

    Building Legacies: Successful Exits and Ethical Conduct in Business with Josef Brunner

    Today we have a special guest – the dynamic entrepreneur, Josef Brunner. Josef, who founded his first company at 16, has since sold multiple businesses for over $400 million. In this episode, we delve into the emotional rollercoaster of selling a business, emphasizing the essential support mentors can provide. Josef shares wisdom on personal and ethical conduct, the value of work ethics, and how to protect intellectual property during acquisitions. We’ll explore his stoic philosophy, the importance of transparency and trust in acquisition processes, and the delicate balance of control and delegation in managing a company. Josef also highlights the significance of meaningful legacy over financial gain, his approach to maintaining relationships post-acquisition, and how he prepares his organizations for seamless leadership transitions. Tune in for invaluable insights on dealing with acquisition challenges, the pitfalls of relying too heavily on bankers, and the importance of direct, personal engagement throughout the exit journey. Whether you're gearing up for an exit or just curious about the highs and lows of entrepreneurial success, this episode is packed with lessons that resonate far beyond the boardroom. Let's dive in! This is what you get to hear: 00:00 Josef Brunner discusses entrepreneurial journey on podcast.09:03 Embrace curiosity; avoid thoughts of failure.15:15 Stable networks indicate success; prioritizing relationships matters.19:32 Institutionalized entrepreneurship and supported former employees' ventures.23:05 Build strong relationships for successful deal-making.26:55 Clearly define goals and build a sustainable organization.34:48 Rumors impact productivity; transparency risks misinterpretation.39:07 Decision based on legacy, gut feel, offers.42:49 Big risks in venture capital yield results.50:25 Regret selling them too early for money.53:52 Be the person you want others to be.01:03:41 Relentless resilience eventually overcomes opposition.01:06:27 Invest in employees who innovate externally.01:11:00 Engage cross-organization for effective leadership succession.Want to know more about Joseph Brunner:Josef Brunner's life took a dramatic turn at 15 when his parents' bakery went bankrupt, rendering his family homeless as they lived in the bakery. Faced with these harsh circumstances, Josef made the difficult decision to drop out of school, despite his passion for studying physics and love for numbers. Determined to support his family, he channelled his entrepreneurial spirit into starting a company, which he successfully sold by the time he was 18. With the earnings, he was able to buy a new house for his parents, where they continue to live to this day. The Big Exit Show is an initiative by Peak and NP-Hard. Want to know more about Peak and the ventures we back? Check out our website. Want to know more about NP-Hard? Have a look at our website. Feedback for our podcast or want to be featured on our show? Please reach out at podcast@peak.capital.

    1h 8m
  4. Selling Eshgro: How Anton Loeffen Transformed Eshgro into a Cloud Industry Leader

    09/19/2024

    Selling Eshgro: How Anton Loeffen Transformed Eshgro into a Cloud Industry Leader

    Anton’s journey is remarkable; from writing his first software at age 14 and becoming a programming finalist at 17, to founding his first company at 21 and successfully selling it. This episode delves into his business development strategies, the significance of recurring revenue, and crucial financial metrics like EBITDA. We will also explore Anton's personal development, his experience with venture capital and private equity, and the lessons learned from managing partnerships and preparing for an exit. Additionally, Anton shares insights on balancing professional and personal life and offers advice for aspiring entrepreneurs. Tune in for a comprehensive look into Anton Loeffen’s entrepreneurial journey, filled with valuable insights and lessons. Don’t forget to subscribe and provide feedback.  We are discussing: 00:00 Founder shows dedication, passion, and deep involvement.03:35 Interest in programming sparked by TV series.06:38 Learning communication, marketing, sales; consulting banks successfully.10:06 Split company; hired co-founder; later separated.12:43 Learn from mistakes; trust and value your team.15:55 Respected feedback prompted management improvement through learning.19:27 Bootstrapped initially, funded by software earnings and consulting.24:15 Angels were hands-off but sometimes frustratingly repetitive.27:40 Exited investors, considered growth or personal exit strategy.30:45 41 interested parties narrowed to 3 finalists, negotiated exit.34:25 EBITDA is crucial for venture capital success.37:59 McKinsey and Holland Capital managed preparation process.40:47 Escrow valued at $330 million via SaaS multiple.45:26 Hire top talent; ensure strong, buyable strategy.47:29 Regretted work-life balance, improved, now more relaxed.50:28 Subscribe, feedback welcomed, join next episode.More about Anton Loeffen:Anton Loeffen's interest in programming began during his school years, sparked by the TV series "Wizkids," which dealt with artificial intelligence. Intrigued by the idea of creating virtual reality friends, he asked his parents for a computer and began learning to code. This newfound passion allowed him to see the potential of software in creating something from nothing. Anton went on to develop software for various companies and even sold his first software to banks, marking the start of a successful tech career.You can connect with him though LinkedIn The Big Exit Show is an initiative by Peak and NP-Hard. Want to know more about Peak and the ventures we back? Check out our website. Want to know more about NP-Hard? Have a look at our website. Feedback for our podcast or want to be featured on our show? Please reach out at podcast@peak.capital.

    51 min
  5. Selling Flow Pilots Dewi's Exit Strategy, Finding the Right Partner for Growth

    08/15/2024

    Selling Flow Pilots Dewi's Exit Strategy, Finding the Right Partner for Growth

    We sit down with Dewi, the former CEO and co-founder of Flow Pilots, to discuss her remarkable entrepreneurial journey and the invaluable lessons she learned with her exit. Dewi's story begins in 2011 when she and her then-husband established Flow Pilots, driven by a shared vision to revolutionize the user experience of computer programs. By focusing on mobile strategy, business applications, change management, and enterprise architecture, Flow Pilots differentiated itself in a competitive market. Throughout the episode, Dewi candidly shares the challenges she faced as a founder, from navigating the complexities of running a business with her spouse to overcoming cash flow issues caused by delayed customer payments. She also discusses her transition to the CEO role in 2018 and the strategic decisions that followed. One of the most significant moments in Dewi's journey was the decision to sell Flow Pilots in 2022. In this episode, she provides an honest account of the factors that led to this choice, the importance of finding the ideal customer profile, and the emotional and professional challenges that accompanied the transition period. This episode offers a wealth of insights for entrepreneurs, including the art of negotiation, the value of transparent communication during mergers and acquisitions, and the importance of resilience in the face of adversity. Join us as we learn from Dewi's experiences and gain a deeper understanding of what it takes to build, grow, and eventually exit a successful company. This is what we discuss: 00:00 Introduction to the Big Exit Show00:33 Interview with Davy van de Vijver: The Beginning06:09 Challenges of Running a Business with a Spouse14:26 Navigating Financial Struggles and Growth19:07 Transition to CEO and Company Evolution20:43 Partnership with Sipal Schouwbroek28:58 Strategizing the Future29:27 Presenting to the Board30:17 Engaging Potential Buyers31:17 Team Involvement and Transition36:58 Valuation and Exit Details39:18 Post-Exit Reflections42:29 New Beginnings49:26 Final Thoughts and Advice52:46 Closing Remarks More about Dewi Van De Vyver:I plead for ethics in tech, sustainable business and more diversity in tech. You can find me on the panel of the podcast Tech45, with the event The Ada Talks, in several boards of directors, and in the government’s advisory group for technology education. I am all in, for as long as it takes. Want to connect? You can do that through LinkedIn The Big Exit Show is an initiative by Peak and NP-Hard. Want to know more about Peak and the ventures we back? Check out our website. Want to know more about NP-Hard? Have a look at our website. Feedback for our podcast or want to be featured on our show? Please reach out at podcast@peak.capital.

    48 min
  6. Selling Usabilla navigating the Big Exit Marc van Agteren's Insights

    07/11/2024

    Selling Usabilla navigating the Big Exit Marc van Agteren's Insights

    In this episode of The Big Exit Show, Marc gives details about Usabilla's significant pivot in 2012, which involved shifting focus to enterprise clients, phasing out less profitable products, and instituting annual contracts. This strategic move led to exceptional revenue growth and helped the company achieve breakeven within nine months. The conversation sheds light on the intricate process of preparing for and executing an acquisition. Marc also emphasizes the importance of aligning shareholder interests, exploring various exit strategies, and ultimately partnering with SurveyMonkey—a decision influenced by their people-focused approach and solid valuation. And finally Marc discusses his post-acquisition experience, including the challenges of adjusting to a new corporate environment and the personal toll during the COVID era. He reflects on his tenure, shares his activities post-exit, and offers advice on the significance of calculated risks and the benefits of bootstrapping in the initial phases of a startup. This episode provides valuable insights into the nuanced journey of managing a tech startup through transformational change and a successful acquisition. This is what we will talk about this episode: 00:00 Learning from late founder about company management.07:11 Determining founder type, admitting limitations, and startup challenges.09:45 Podcast discussed Paul's companies, including Usabilla.12:32 Creating technology for website screenshots, monetization struggles.14:51 Transitioned from 11 to 2, did everything.20:34 Early feedback led to successful product pivot.23:44 Cap table, cash flow, invoicing, healthy organization.27:29 Explored investment with advisors and experienced investors.29:43 Selected boutique firm understood global market, sealed  deal.32:03 European company considers exit amid market uncertainty.38:38 Running two businesses with a solid partner.39:43 CFO managed finances, kept sale quiet. Cultural fit.45:24 Celebrated with team, had dinner, partied.47:58 Separation beneficial after company integration, typically within 2-3 years.50:25 Yusabila's public acquisition for 80 million USD.54:30 Business, family, running, and a new company.56:13 Successful journey with ups and downs. Great outcome.Get to know Marc van Agteren a little better:Marc van Agteren, a former Ernst & Young employee with a deep passion for web development, is a co-founder and key figure at Usabilla. A long-time friend of Paul Veugen, the original founder of Usabilla and fellow member of their student rowing club, Marc was witness to the company's inception in 2008. Despite being entrenched in a secure role at Ernst & Young, Marc's interest in innovative tools and web development grew. By 2010, the same year his girlfriend, now wife, relocated from Estonia to the Netherlands, Marc made the pivotal decision to join Paul at Usabilla, embracing his entrepreneurial spirit and technical expertise.Contact him on LinkedIn. Want to listen to the episode from Paul:  The Big Exit Show | Selling Usabilla and Human.co - Paul Veugen on his multiple startup exits (transistor.fm) The Big Exit Show is an initiative by Peak and NP-Hard. Want to know more about Peak and the ventures we back? Check out our website. Want to know more about NP-Hard? Have a look at our website. Feedback for our podcast or want to be featured on our show? Please reach out at podcast@peak.capital.

    57 min
  7. Selling The Wonder weeks the sale story of Xaviera Plooij's Strategic Exit

    05/09/2024

    Selling The Wonder weeks the sale story of Xaviera Plooij's Strategic Exit

    Welcome to another episode of The Big Exit Show, where we delve deep into the heart-stopping world of entrepreneurship and the bittersweet symphony of company sales. We have an absolutely thrilled to have an exceptional entrepreneur, a visionary who turned a family legacy into an international sensation—Xaviera Plooij, the force behind The Wonder Weeks. Xaviera's journey is nothing short of a rollercoaster, from rebranding her parents' book to creating a cutting-edge app that revolutionized parenting support worldwide. She's faced the challenges of a growing business head-on, learning to manage everything from print-on-demand hurdles to realizing when it was time to let go for the company to reach new heights. Xaviera will share the emotionally charged story of how her personal circumstances nudged her towards considering an acquisition and the swift, determined steps she took towards sealing the deal—all on her terms. From understanding the value of pain in the growth process to embracing her competitive and intuitive edge, Xaviera's narrative is a remarkable testimony to the entrepreneurial spirit. So, listeners, buckle up as we dive into the high-stakes game of business acquisitions, uncovering the strategies, the emotional rollercoaster, and the wisdom that comes with selling your life's work. This is Selling The Wonder Weeks with Xaviera Plooij.   We will talk about:  00:00 Innovative, competitive, and intuitive businesswoman excels.06:24 Rebranded, inspired by TED, launched early App.07:32 Early success with first phones, app's global impact.12:09 Navigating between global perspectives and scientific evidence.15:56 Pain is the start of growth opportunity.20:14 Rebuilding Sevira, embracing femininity after exit.22:05 Early struggles shaped dream of better life.24:08 Dispute over collaboration and management decision-making.30:21 Competition over European author rights and publication.32:13 Success in print on demand and distribution.34:44 Surprising, but you create your destiny actively.38:29 Confidently pursuing my unique business vision and terms.41:12 Mobile app revenue estimated at 24 million.43:53 Assess carefully before selling your company.Get to know Xaviera Plooij better: Xaviera is a bestselling author, serial entrepreneur and professional bon vivant. Her big break was the app 'The Wonder Weeks' which was the world's best-selling app for 10 years in a row. As a strategy, she was on the advisory board of several multinationals. Her two P's: that of Pijn (it's nice, that's where you grow!) and Pipi (never lose the little child in you, that's where the creativity lies!) are her mottos. Nowadays she is committed to making the world more beautiful… with a sparkle of life! Connect on LinkedInThe Wonder Weeks The Big Exit Show is an initiative by Peak and NP-Hard. Want to know more about Peak and the ventures we back? Check out our website. Want to know more about NP-Hard? Have a look at our website. Feedback for our podcast or want to be featured on our show? Please reach out at podcast@peak.capital.

    45 min
  8. Selling TAPPwater, TAPPing into Success Magnus' Journey from Start-up to Big Exit

    03/28/2024

    Selling TAPPwater, TAPPing into Success Magnus' Journey from Start-up to Big Exit

    Today’s episode, is a fascinating tale of ambition, strategy, and the significance of timing in the business world. With us are our insightful guest, Magnus Jern from TAPP Water. Magnus, a serial entrepreneur with a tech and human-centric design background, took the challenge of changing consumer behaviour head-on with the creation of TAPP Water. A company dedicated to reducing plastic waste by providing a convenient solution to tap water filtration. Our conversation with Magnus reveals his journey from celebrating Tap Water’s first online sale to the eventual acquisition by Blue Water Group. With a deep dive into the strategies that led to 80% of their sales being organic and 20-30% of new customers coming through referrals.We'll discuss the pivotal moments like launching on Amazon, emphasizing convenience over sustainability, and the importance of hiring adaptable problem-solvers for a mission-oriented startup. Beyond the numbers, Magnus shares with us the intricacies of leading a company to be acquisition-ready. From raising funds and facing rejections to choosing the right moment to sell, informed by a past experience that taught him the cost of greed.So don't miss out as we uncover the mix of timing, luck, and the critical role of preparation when navigating the sales process. We will talk about: 00:00 Experience makes talent attraction and acquisition easier.04:23 Successful tech entrepreneur transitions to impact space.07:39 Challenging journey to live eco-friendly lives.11:43 Building a sustainable, valuable business is key.13:51 Overcoming challenges in hardware, hiring struggles.18:53 Tech space easy to raise money, hardware challenges.19:50 Investment criteria limited, importance of right questions.23:56 Reluctantly took over business due to challenges.26:55 Seeking opportunities by keeping communication channels open.29:32 Buyer role during pitch calls essential preparation.35:21 Having clear goals can be life-changing.36:23 Embracing career change, learning from diverse experiences.Get to know Magnus Jern: Founder/co-founder of 7 companies, including 4 successful exits. Pioneer and thought leader in mobile apps, clean water technology, innovation and human centric design. Currently, fully involved in the mission of TAPP Water to reduce human impact on the planet by providing clean, tasty tap water to everyone in affordable and sustainable ways. My previous startup Golden Gekko became the leading mobile app developer in the world within 5 years from its inception. We continue to drive the mobile transformation journey at DMI (new owner) combining human-centric design with modern IT. Infrequent speaker at conferences around the world, including Mobile World Congress. Like: Understanding problems and working with experts to solve, implement and see the resultsDon't like: Talk without actionMotto: Let's get things done! https://www.linkedin.com/in/magnusjern/ The Big Exit Show is an initiative by Peak and NP-Hard. Want to know more about Peak and the ventures we back? Check out our website. Want to know more about NP-Hard? Have a look at our website. Feedback for our podcast or want to be featured on our show? Please reach out at podcast@peak.capital.

    40 min

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Are you a founder looking to sell your company, or already in the process of doing so? In The Big Exit Show by Peak and NP-Hard with our hosts Johan van Mil and Anke Huiskes talk to entrepreneurs about scaling their companies and the route to making a successful exit. They bring you real stories, valuable insights, and expert advice from entrepreneurs who have successfully exited their business. Learn what to expect, avoid common pitfalls, and get inspired to achieve your own big exit! 🔥 Subscribe now to stay ahead in your journey and get actionable tips from those who’ve been there before.

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