Salesology® - Conversations with Sales Leaders

Wendy Weiss

When you are ready to transform your sales for today's transforming market, this is the show for you. In the Salesology®️ podcast, you're going to be getting the real scoop, the inside story from sales leaders who will deliver the goods on how to grow sales faster, more easily and more profitably. With your host, The Queen of Cold Calling®️ and Founder of Salesology®️, award winning author, speaker, sales trainer and coach, Wendy Weiss.

  1. 157: Tom Poland – The Science of Being in Demand

    2D AGO

    157: Tom Poland – The Science of Being in Demand

    Tom Poland is a multiple best-selling marketing author and has clients in 151 cities around the world. He works just two days a week in seclusion from his private resort on the sub-tropical Sunshine Coast of Australia. Key Points: Sales Led to Marketing Insight After 20 years in sales, the speaker realized selling is much easier when prospects are already interested or qualified. The Sales Spectrum Prospects fall between two ends: ·        Convincing: uninterested prospects you must persuade ·        Confirming: highly qualified prospects ready to buy Good marketing moves prospects closer to the confirming side. Demonstrations Increase Engagement Offering a demo or webinar works better than simply describing a product because people enjoy watching and learning. Use Other People's Networks (OPM) Partner with people who already have audiences, email lists, or communities that match your ideal customers. Choose Partners with Aligned Interests Both demographics and interests (psychographics) need to match for partnerships to work. Craft stronger marketing messages Effective messages include: ·        Benefits ·        Differentiation ·        Specific details  Build Relationships First Before proposing partnerships, establish rapport and reciprocity (e.g., promote their content or interview them). Bottom Line: Sales become easier when you focus on qualified prospects, strong messaging, and leveraging other people's audiences.    Guest Links:  tom@leadsology.guru +61404885553 www.GetTomsFreeBook.com www.FiveHourChallenge.com    About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let's talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://podcast.gosalesology.com/ and connect on LinkedIn and follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and check out our website at https://gosalesology.com/.

    33 min
  2. 156: Ivana Taylor – Building Prospect Lists with AI (Part 2)

    FEB 25

    156: Ivana Taylor – Building Prospect Lists with AI (Part 2)

    Guest Bio: Ivana Taylor has spent 35 years translating complex marketing into simple, executable strategies. She's the founder of DIYMarketers.com, where she helps entrepreneurs compete without enterprise budgets. She's a self-described AI power user who tests tools for six hours a day. And she's built follow-up systems for everyone from manufacturing companies to consultants. Key Points: 1. Cold Outreach Requires Far More "Touches" Than It Used To A "touch" is no longer just a phone call or email. Every interaction counts. It includes: ·        Social media posts ·        Website visits ·        Content consumption ·        LinkedIn engagement ·        Webinars ·        Direct mail ·        Comments and DMs 2. Most Small Businesses Skip the Foundational Steps Before worrying about sequences, automation, or buying lists, you must clearly define your ideal customer, understand the problem you solve, identify the desired outcome your buyer wants and know how your buyer makes decisions. Without this groundwork, marketing becomes expensive guesswork. 3. Cold Email Alone Is Weak (and Often an Avoidance Strategy) Response rates to pure cold email are extremely low. Buying lists and blasting emails often feels productive, is easy to automate and produces poor results. Cold email works best as a second step, not a first step. 4. Start Manual Before You Automate The recommendation: ·        Begin with real conversations ·        Aim for consistent outreach (calls or personal messages) ·        Learn from live interactions ·        Identify patterns in objections, desired outcomes, and buying triggers Only after recognizing patterns should you build automated sequences. 5. The Phone Is Still the Fastest Path to Revenue Despite all the marketing tools available, the most consistent answer to "What's working?" was picking up the phone and having conversations. Why? ·        Immediate feedback ·        Faster learning curve ·        Real-time objection handling ·        Faster path to booked appointments 6. Mindset Matters: Service, Not Persuasion Cold outreach works best when: ·        You see yourself as helping, not convincing ·        "No" is viewed as clarity (not rejection) ·        Your goal is conversation, not immediate conversion A clear "no" frees you to pursue someone who will say yes. 7. Specific Targeting Beats Big Lists Instead of buying 10,000 names: ·        Define clear parameters (industry, role, company size, revenue, keywords) ·        Start with a focused segment ·        Refine messaging based on real conversations ·        Build segmented sequences based on actual buying motivations Broad targeting = poor response. Specific targeting = stronger engagement. 8. Automation Is Powerful — But Only After Strategy Automation should amplify a proven message, a clearly defined audience, validated buying patterns. It cannot replace foundational work. 9. Marketing Is Not Magic — It's Consistent Work There is no shortcut. Successful outreach requires: ·        Repetition ·        Iteration ·        Conversations ·        Testing ·        Refinement The "eat your vegetables" truth: the people succeeding are doing the work. Bottom Line Cold outreach still works — but not as a blast-and-hope strategy. What works: ·        Clear targeting ·        Strong positioning ·        Multi-channel touches ·        Real conversations ·        Strategic follow-up And above all, start with the fundamentals before scaling with tools.   Guest Links: Free Gift:  An AI Outreach Ebook IMPORTANT – You must Double Opt-in and confirm your email to receive this free gift.   Learn More Visit DIYMarketers.com – Simple, actionable marketing strategies for small business owners who want to do marketing on less than $17 a day. Fix Your Marketing Problem in Less Than 24 Hours – Fill out the form, tell me your marketing challenge, and I'll send personalized recommendations in less than 24 hours.   About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let's talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://podcast.gosalesology.com/ and connect on LinkedIn and follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and check out our website at https://gosalesology.com/.

    34 min
  3. FEB 11

    155: Louise McDonnell - Sell On Social

    Guest Bio: Louise is an award-winning social media strategist, coach, four-time best-selling author, and the founder of SellOnSocial.Media Digital Marketing Agency & Academy. For the past 20 years, I've helped coaches and consultants grow their businesses with fresh perspectives and innovative AI-powered tools. Key Points: Social media is marketing, not a separate skill Louise didn't "get into social media" randomly; her foundation is traditional marketing. Social media is simply a modern channel for applying timeless marketing principles. The problem isn't social media itself; it's treating it as something different from marketing strategy. You don't need to like social media to use it well  Many business owners dislike social media or don't want to spend hours online and that's okay. Social media is not about becoming an influencer or going viral. For business owners, it's about using social platforms efficiently and intentionally to generate leads and opportunities. Followers ≠ business growth Having thousands of followers means nothing if you don't know how to convert attention into revenue. A person with zero followers and someone with 15,000 followers can have the same problem: no system to turn visibility into sales. Social media success is not about features, hacks, or trends, it's about strategy. The 5-step framework for using social media effectively 1.     Clarify your core offer 2.     Nail your messaging 3.     Show up with intent. 4.     Build a lead generation system 5.     Use AI as a co-pilot, not the driver  Expectations depend on your starting point Results vary based on size of your existing audience, email list strength and consistency of organic activity. Someone with a warm audience will see faster results than someone starting from scratch. Organic activity makes paid ads dramatically more effective. Organic activity + paid ads = leverage Ads work best when layered on top of consistent organic engagement. Cold ad accounts cost more and convert less. Platforms reward businesses that show up consistently before running ads. What a "lead" really means in social media A lead is someone who opts in; joins your list, attends a session, downloads something. Leads can be cold (just joined), warm (engaging) or hot (ready to buy). Most people don't buy immediately, social media supports direct, indirect, and future sales. Social media doesn't sell high-ticket services, conversations do Low-cost products can sell directly on social platforms. High-ticket services require lead generation, nurturing and sales conversations. You market online, but you sell offline. The real outcome of social media The goal isn't instant sales; it's building a pipeline of qualified prospects. Social media creates visibility, trust, and opportunity over time. Done right, it feeds a steady flow of future business. Bottom line: Social media works when it's treated as a strategic marketing system, not a content treadmill. Clear offers, strong messaging, intentional activity, and lead generation, not virality, drive real business results.   Guest Links: AI Powered Online 2026 Social Media Content Planner To help you create impactful content week in, week out! 1.     The 2026 content calendar with 950+ searchable dates and holidays 2.     An AI post generator for Story, Advice and Testimonial posts in your own voice (2 posts per month, free forever) 3.     High-converting post formats powered by smart prompts, so you can create content that works, in your own voice and tone 4.     Simple tools to plan and organize your content 5.     This smart tool helps you embrace AI as your co-pilot, so you create content easily in your voice and tone.     About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let's talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://podcast.gosalesology.com/ and connect on LinkedIn and follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and check out our website at https://gosalesology.com/.

    33 min
  4. 154: Ivana Taylor – Building Prospect Lists with AI (Part 1)

    JAN 28

    154: Ivana Taylor – Building Prospect Lists with AI (Part 1)

    Guest Bio: Ivana Taylor has spent 35 years translating complex marketing into simple, executable strategies. She's the founder of DIYMarketers.com, where she helps entrepreneurs compete without enterprise budgets. She's a self-described AI power user who tests tools for six hours a day. And she's built follow-up systems for everyone from manufacturing companies to consultants.   Key Points: AI has fundamentally changed prospecting and outreach—making it faster, cheaper, and more targeted—but only when combined with clear strategy and direct sales fundamentals. The Old Way Is Broken Cold outreach traditionally means endless spreadsheets, bad or outdated contact data, spray-and-pray marketing (webinars, lead magnets, mass email blasts), and huge time investment with little guarantee of ROI. Buying lists or relying solely on inbound marketing is increasingly ineffective. What Still Works Direct sales and direct outreach remain the most reliable growth strategy. Success starts with absolute clarity on your Ideal Prospect; industry, role/title, geography and specific expertise or problem area. Without this clarity, AI just produces faster garbage. How AI Changes Prospect List Building AI dramatically reduces the manual labor of prospect research. Instead of hours of Googling and data entry AI can find names, companies, websites, social profiles, and sometimes contact info and AI can organize data into usable spreadsheets. AI works best in small-to-medium batches (10–50 at a time). Tools Mentioned for Prospecting & Enrichment General AI platforms (for defining criteria and searching): ChatGPT, Claude and Gemini. Spreadsheet & research automation: GenSpark (noted for strong spreadsheet creation) Data enrichment & contact info (especially B2B): Apollo.io, Hunter.io, Clay.com Outreach & CRM tools: Nimble.com (emails sent directly through Gmail for 1:1 feel) Deal-finding for tools: AppSumo (one-time purchase tools) What AI Can (and Can't) Do AI can build targeted prospect lists faster. Find websites, LinkedIn profiles, phone numbers, and some emails. Segment prospects by expertise or role. Reduce human error in outreach sequences. Ai can't guarantee perfect data (bounces still happen). Replace human judgment. Eliminate the need to review and understand each prospect. Best Practices for AI-Powered Prospecting Always review and "get your hands dirty" with the data. Read prospect websites and make personal notes. Expect some bad data—scrubbing is still required. B2B data is far easier to find than consumer data. Free versions of tools are sufficient to test and validate workflows. Outreach Strategy Matters Use AI to support structured outreach sequences, not spam. Follow a 3–5 touch email sequence. Personalization improves responses. Segment based on expertise, role, or interest. Automation reduces mistakes while preserving a personal tone.    Guest Links: FREE GIFT Business by Referral Course: https://diymarketers.trainercentralsite.com/course/business-by-referral  Promo Code "WENDY25"   AI + Sales Tools from the Podcast ChatGPT – Use it to write outreach emails, brainstorm follow-ups, or summarize client notes quickly and naturally. Genspark – Great for researching topics and generating accurate, human-like marketing or sales content fast. Perplexity – Ideal for researching prospects, finding their websites, social links, and key insights before reaching out. Hunter.io – Find and verify professional email addresses so you always reach the right person. Apollo.io – Combines verified contact data with built-in email outreach and engagement tracking in one platform.   Learn More Visit DIYMarketers.com – Simple, actionable marketing strategies for small business owners who want to do marketing on less than $17 a day. Fix Your Marketing Problem in Less Than 24 Hours – Fill out the form, tell me your marketing challenge, and I'll send personalized recommendations in less than 24 hours.   About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let's talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://podcast.gosalesology.com/ and connect on LinkedIn and follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and check out our website at https://gosalesology.com/.

    27 min
  5. JAN 14

    153: Samantha Phillips – What is Sales Enablement?

    Guest: Samantha Phillips Guest Bio:  Samantha Phillips is the Sales Enablement Manager at SHI International, leading strategic initiatives across Commercial and Public Sector divisions. With over five years of enablement experience in high-volume IT sales, she builds scalable onboarding programs, develops impactful training, and drives process improvements that boost sales performance. Samantha partners with sales and technical leadership to coach enablement teams, ensuring sellers are equipped for success. Her programs have achieved high satisfaction scores and retention rates, reflecting her commitment to results and culture. Samantha is passionate about creating engaging learning experiences and fostering professional growth. She is recognized for her collaborative approach, problem-solving skills, and dedication to elevating sales teams. Connect with her on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/phillips-samantha   Key Points: Background & Career Path Samantha Phillips started her career in sales at SHI, not enablement. She transitioned into sales enablement after networking with the enablement team and being encouraged to apply. Her enablement experience includes Sales enablement trainer (onboarding & workshops), Program manager, and Sales enablement manager (for the past 3 years). She values continuous learning and has worked across nearly all aspects of sales enablement.   Why Sales? Samantha entered sales after moving to Austin and being drawn to the energy and culture of sales, the competitive environment, the ability to build her own book of business, the people and fast-paced atmosphere were the biggest drivers.   What Sales Enablement Is (and Is Not) Sales enablement has evolved beyond traditional L&D (Learning & Development). It is no longer just training or professional development. Modern sales enablement focuses on driving the sales process, helping sellers close deals faster, improving sales productivity and developing the right mindsets and behaviors. L&D serves the whole organization; sales enablement is specific to the sales org.   What Sellers Need to Be Equipped for Success The most critical focus is a customer-centric approach. Relationship-building is more important than just "getting the meeting." Sellers should aim to become a trusted resource, not just a vendor, build long-term customer relationships and short-term wins are easy; long-term relationships drive sustainable success.   Cold Calling & Prospecting Philosophy Samantha agrees that meetings matter—but they should be pursued with strategy and value, not just metrics. Effective prospecting requires researching what matters to the customer, understanding why it matters, and clearly articulating value. Cold calling without value is just "throwing things at the wall."   Role of Sales Enablement Tools Tools include CRM, internal systems, data resources, and content. Sellers must first be exposed to tools early (despite information overload). Enablement focuses on high-level understanding of frameworks and strategies and application, especially through role play. Role playing helps sellers sound natural and authentic, avoid reading scripts and build conversational confidence. AI is increasingly used to support practice and application. Skill retention requires ongoing practice—like muscle memory or sports.   Research & Preparation Sellers should deeply research their customer and the customer's customers. Understanding the full ecosystem helps sellers communicate broader value. This approach resembles a modern, automated version of a sales readiness checklist.   Driving Tool Adoption (Especially CRM) Tool adoption fails when middle managers aren't bought in. Success requires buy-in at all levels: Executives, Sales enablement, Middle managers and Sellers. Managers must reinforce tools during one-on-ones and team meetings. Enablement should test tools with pilot groups, gather feedback and adjust based on real usage. Sometimes tools don't fail—they're just being used differently than expected. "Fail forward" and pivot based on how sellers actually work.   CRM Challenges & the Future CRM resistance is common across sales organizations. Current problems include complexity, too many fields/tabs and poor usability. Samantha believes CRM is entering a new phase, driven by AI with more automation, less manual input and more "behind-the-scenes" functionality. The future of CRM should reduce friction for sellers.   What Samantha Loves About Sales Enablement Creativity in approaches and problem-solving Different strengths across sellers, managers, and trainers Freedom to experiment, test, and learn A "fail forward" mindset   What Drives Her Crazy People who don't try or limit themselves Sellers and leaders who stay stuck in their comfort zones Seeing people underestimate their potential Belief that even 1% improvement per day can be transformational   Final Takeaway Growth—in sales and enablement—comes from stepping outside your comfort zone, practicing consistently and being open to feedback and change. Sales enablement succeeds when it blends strategy, application, mindset, and leadership buy-in.   Guest Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phillips-samantha/     About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let's talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://podcast.gosalesology.com/ and connect on LinkedIn and follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and check out our website at https://gosalesology.com/.

    27 min
  6. 10/27/2025

    152: Tom Dee – The Unexpected Sales Manager

    Guest: Tom Dee   Guest Bio: Tom began his sales management career over eight years ago, and he is passionate about turning underperforming teams into high-performing, revenue-generating ones. Tom loves using tools like AI-driven sales insights to stay sharp and ahead of the game. His approach to leadership is all about mentorship, making smart decisions, and keeping the focus on the customer, building relationships that last.   Key Points: Career Journey Started in sales by accident. Studied TV and radio production at the University of Dayton, but couldn't find work in that field. While waiting tables, he met the president of a copier company who was impressed by his "sales pitch" and hired him. Learned cold calling and sales fundamentals in copier sales. Connected through the Chamber of Commerce to Ryden, where he started as a sales account representative. After two successful years, he was promoted to sales manager despite having no prior management experience. His boss recognized his leadership potential and sales acumen. Has been with Ryden for nine years, discovering his true calling in leadership, mentorship, and sales management.   Music and Sales Tom is also a musician and band singer. Believes music and sales share core similarities: both require creativity, persistence, and appreciation of the process, not just the outcome. Says the best salespeople, like musicians, hone their craft over time — success isn't innate; it's developed through discipline and practice. Comparing recording music ("you don't see how many takes it took") to the sales process, the journey matters as much as the final result.   Sales Philosophy Rejects the myth of the "born salesperson." Emphasizes that sales success comes from process, practice, and consistency, not innate talent. Says the best reps "get out what they put in". Hard work and repetition pay off. Values creativity, resilience, and self-belief in sales performance.   Leadership & Coaching Approach Focuses on individualized coaching to help each rep become "the best version of themselves." Builds on strengths and raises the floor on weaknesses, progress can mean moving from a D to a B, not perfection. Believes in incremental improvement - small, consistent gains lead to big results. Encourages trust-based coaching by explaining the "why" behind feedback. Promotes two team types: · Business Development Reps: Need direction, creativity, and fresh energy. · Account Reps: Need structure, process optimization, and focus on managing existing clients.   Overcoming Sales Call Fear Recognizes fear of cold calling as common, "there's no magic wand." The only real solution is repetition and desensitization: pick up the phone, make calls, and learn from experience. Sales managers often act like psychologists, helping reps shift their mindset from "I'm bothering people" to "I'm helping people." Acknowledges that sales isn't for everyone, and that's okay.   The Power of Process Process brings structure and rhythm to an unpredictable job. Encourages reps to block time and eliminate distractions during call sessions. Teaches that routine builds confidence and consistency, helping overcome discomfort. Note the moment of breakthrough when reps see results from their effort; that's when confidence clicks.   Use of Scripts Provides scripts to new reps, especially since Ryden is in the print industry with its own terminology. Scripts help reps learn the "language" of their customers. Encourages reps to act as if, use scripts as training wheels until they internalize the message and make it their own. "Fake it till you make it… But eventually, you have to make it."   Management Philosophy Believes in meeting people where they are, not forcing everyone into one mold. Success comes from helping each rep develop in their own authentic way. Leadership is about guidance, empathy, and helping others grow, not control.   Guest Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-deee/       About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let's talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://podcast.gosalesology.com/ and connect on LinkedIn and follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and check out our website at https://gosalesology.com/.

    28 min
  7. 10/20/2025

    151: Matt Gregory – Fast Tracking Future Leaders

    Guest: Matt Gregory   Guest Bio: Matt Gregory's story is one of quiet transformation, shaping the brokerage division from within while never losing the drive to help clients. A strategist and mentor, he co-founded the Office Brokerage Group, launched the firm's Fast Track training program, and has closed 1,200-plus deals worth more than $810 million. Clients value his mix of precision, urgency, and clear foresight; colleagues value his commitment to developing future leaders. Having recently earned his broker's license, Matt now serves NAI Ohio Equities in an official Management-Level Broker capacity, bringing even greater authority to the guidance he provides.   Education: BA Communication - The Ohio State University Professional Affiliations: SIOR, CCIM   Matt continues to pair strategic vision with hands-on coaching, ensuring both clients and the next generation of brokers achieve their full potential.   Key Points: Career Background & Path into Real Estate While studying at The Ohio State University, he interned at Ohio Equities, helping modernize their marketing and tech systems. After graduation, he became Director of Information Technology for the firm. Over time, he was drawn into sales after assisting agents with listing presentations and realizing he enjoyed the client-facing, persuasive side of the business. Encouraged by the company's owner, Sandy Simpson, he got his real estate license and transitioned into brokerage.   View on Selling Matt prefers to think of sales as education, advising, and consulting rather than traditional selling. His philosophy: "Educate clients so they can make confident, informed decisions." He defines selling as persuading someone of value, aligning with the dictionary meaning of "to sell." He believes in consultative selling—building trust through information, not pressure.   Fast Track Program (Training for New Agents) Originally created in 2006, revived and redesigned in 2023 under his leadership. Matt discusses in depth the structure of the Fast Track Program he designed and uses to train new agents. The Goal: give three years of experience in one year to reduce new-agent failure and speed up success.   Hiring & Recruiting Philosophy Matt looks for candidates who are confident but not arrogant, emotionally intelligent and adaptable, self-motivated and resilient, and realistic about the long sales cycle in commercial real estate. The recruitment process he uses is multiple conversations (3–4 meetings), both formal and informal, emphasis on intuition and relationship-building, not just testing, considers diversity in career stages and backgrounds (new grads, mid-career switchers, experienced professionals), and avoids personality assessments; it relies on observation and cultural fit.   Leadership & Management Style Matt's biggest management challenge is balancing autonomy and oversight. He wants agents to feel empowered but not reckless. Some agents over-communicate; others under-communicate—he strives for a healthy middle ground. He focuses on mentorship, working directly on deals with new agents to model behaviors and decision-making. Matt encourages agents to become future leaders, not just team players.   Outcomes & Culture Strong retention and development culture—agents tend to stay long-term. Emphasis on learning, collaboration, and shared success. Fast Track alumni are performing well and contributing to the firm's growth. The company's local reputation attracts new candidates organically.   Guest Links: Website: https://www.ohioequities.com/brokers/mgregory.html LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mgregoryohioequities/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mjgreg Twitter: http://www.x.com/officegrp Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/officegrp     About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let's talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://podcast.gosalesology.com/ and connect on LinkedIn and follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and check out our website at https://gosalesology.com/.

    25 min
  8. 10/13/2025

    150: Jon Ostenson – Non-Food Franchising

    Guest: Jon Ostenson Guest Bio: Jon Ostenson is the Founder and CEO of FranBridge Consulting, a 2-time Inc. 5000 company, and he is a top 1% franchise consultant. Jon is also the author of the bestselling book, 'Non-Food Franchising'. Jon draws on his experience as a former Inc. 500 Franchise President and Multi-Brand Franchisee in helping his clients select their franchise investments. Jon is a frequent contributor on franchising for publications such as Forbes, Inc., and Bloomberg. Do you have a free gift or landing page that you would like to share?   Key Points: Background and Experience Jon never planned to be in franchising, but transitioned from corporate sales leadership. He became president of Shelf Genie, a national non-food franchise (custom pull-out shelving for kitchens/pantries), managing support for all franchisees in North America. Jon fell in love with franchising due to the diversity of industries and supportive business model, and has personally invested in multiple franchises and now helps others identify opportunities.   Why Non-Food Franchising Many think "franchise = fast food," but non-food franchises often offer easier paths to profitability: o   Fewer employees needed o   Lower operating hours o   Lower CapEx investment o   Higher margins, less waste, less susceptible to consumer whims   Jon focused industries: home/property services, health/wellness, kids, pets, seniors, B2B services, and takes a contrarian approach by cutting out food franchises to go deeper into other industries.   Why Choose a Franchise Over Starting Your Own Business Not all entrepreneurs thrive on full autonomy; some benefit from a proven system. Franchising is easier, not easy; it still requires work, but with structured support. Advantages of franchising: o   Training wheels and guidance o   Higher success rates than solo businesses o   Proven playbook and marketing already optimized o   Support from other franchisees – a built-in mastermind o   Step-by-step framework helps shortcut growth and profitability   How to Start in Franchising Doing independent research can be noisy and inefficient; many top 100 franchise lists are paid PR placements. FranBridge Consulting acts like a broker for franchises: o   Free to work with clients o   Access to over 600 non-food franchise opportunities o   Matches clients to opportunities in their market o   Helps narrow options from 10–12 down to 3–4 for deeper exploration o   Provides funding resources, franchise attorneys, and support through the process   Key Considerations Before Buying a Franchise Buying a franchise is like a business partnership or marriage. It's important to "date around" – talk to multiple franchises before committing.  Success comes from following the system, not trying to reinvent it. Common mistakes: o   Not following the franchise system o   Thinking you can do everything your own way Territory exclusivity protects franchisees from competition within the same system. Franchises allow you to build your own team and avoid inheriting issues from an existing business.   Advice for Potential Entrepreneurs Explore all options: buying a franchise, an existing business, or starting your own. Franchises offer proven models and support, making them ideal for most would-be business owners. Understanding your own style: Some are too entrepreneurial to follow a system, which may make franchising a poor fit.   Guest Links: Sign up for a complimentary copy of our book, 'Non-Food Franchising' Schedule an intro call with Jon to discuss opportunities further (no cost)   About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let's talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://podcast.gosalesology.com/ and connect on LinkedIn and follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and check out our website at https://gosalesology.com/.

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