The Rest is Education

David Marshall, Ross Borthwick and Isabel Rich
The Rest is Education

What should parents look for in a school? Why are so many teachers leaving the profession? Is homework really necessary? Join three teachers Ross, Isabel and David on The Rest is Education as they explore some of the big (and small) questions in the world of education. The views expressed on this podcast are those of the individuals presenting and not the organisations that they may represent. The Rest is Education was founded by teachers Aaron Huber, Ross Borthwick and David Marshall in 2022.

  1. How do we kindle curiosity in children?

    4 DAYS AGO

    How do we kindle curiosity in children?

    How do we make space for the curious child? In a society where we are eroding subjects such as music, art and dance from the curriculum, where knowledge and achievement are valued above play and creativity, how do we encourage curiosity in children and allow it to thrive inside and outside the classroom? Ross Borthwick, Isabel Rich and David Marshall approach the question of curiosity in Episode 5 of Season 3 with...well, curiosity. It's something all schools want to promote - or say they want to promote - but what exactly is it, and how do we keep the spark alive in the children we teach, particularly in an age of instant access knowledge? Episode Links & Other Things Article from The Atlantic: How the Ivy League Broke America, a thought-provoking look at the way exclusivity in education has increased the divide in the States. Essential reading for anyone involved in education, with lots of relevance to the UK system: https://bit.ly/4iibPOwMichael Rosen's Book of Play is wonderful, not just because of all the creative ideas but because of Rosen's own commentary on the ideas behind play, referencing Jean Piaget among others: https://wellcomecollection.org/books/michael-rosen-s-book-of-playFrancis Alÿs' study of different children's games around the world explores play across different countries. Following the exhibition at The Barbican Centre earlier this year, you can find videos on this site showing different games in different countries, a window into the ingenuity of children everywhere: https://francisalys.com/category/childrens-games/How to Develop Curiosity in Kids: 9 engaging ideas from the International School in Ho Chi Minh City: https://bit.ly/3BAxcddFor anyone alive in the 90s, Dorling Kindersley (DK) were the go-to for information and fact-based learning, especially their cross-section books: https://www.dk.com/uk/book/9780241379783-stephen-biestys-incredible-cross-sections/ We also love the range of non-fiction books you can get today. Flying Eye is one of the best around, with plenty to inspire curiosity: https://flyingeyebooks.com/Dunkeld Cathedral in Perthshire can be visited all year round: https://www.historicenvironment.scot/visit-a-place/places/dunkeld-cathedral/ The Rest is Education is a podcast created by teachers for teachers, parents and anyone interested in education. Please follow, share and recommend whenever you can. You can email us at therestiseducation@gmail.com or find us on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening!

    48 min
  2. What makes an excellent primary curriculum?

    NOV 20

    What makes an excellent primary curriculum?

    In this episode, David Marshall welcomes guests James Page and Dr Cindy Gause-Vega to discuss the question: What makes an excellent primary curriculum? James Page is Chief Executive of Haringey Education Partnership (HEP) which has 120 member schools and supports 35,000 school-age children. Dr Cindy Gause-Vega is an educational consultant based in Prague focused on professional learning and collaborative inquiry-based learning. She is former elementary school principal in the Czech Republic with experience working across three countries and two continents. This episode is part 1 of 2 looking at the value of curriculum, with a focus this week on the primary sector. The word curriculum stems from the Latin verb currere, meaning 'to run'. The noun translates as 'racecourse' an apt metaphor for all the things curriculum has come to mean for schools today. Early in this episode, the idea of a road map is mentioned as another metaphor for a curriculum, something which can both define and limit what a it is and can be. What is not in question, is the value of curriculum design to excellent education and the importance of a well-thought-through curriculum to children everywhere. Mentioned or linked to the episode: Haringey Education Partnership website can be found here: https://haringeyeducationpartnership.co.uk/HEP has recently been working with Christine Counsell and Steve Mastin to develop the Opening Worlds curriculum. https://openingworlds.uk/what-is-opening-worlds/Jerome Bruner was an influential psychologist who has set the groundwork for thinking about inquiry-based education: https://www.structural-learning.com/post/jerome-bruners-theoriesMichael Young developed the term 'powerful knowledge' and expanded the concept as a foundation for curriculum design: https://my.chartered.college/impact_article/applying-the-powerful-knowledge-principle-to-curriculum-development-in-disadvantaged-contexts/The ResearchEd Guide to the Curriculum, edited by Clare Sealy and published by John Catt educational is a great collection of articles on curriculum development and can be found here: https://www.johncattbookshop.com/products/the-researched-guide-to-the-curriculum-an-evidence-informed-guide-for-teachersHEP runs its own podcast 'HEP Talks' which can be found here (and on all podcast providers: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/hep-talks/id1608692574The Rest is Education is a podcast founded by Ross Borthwick, David Marshall and Aaron Huber, now with Isabel Rich as a co-host. Email any questions or comments to therestiseducation@gmail.com. We hope you enjoy the podcast. Please do follow us, wherever you get your pods and, if you liked it, please give us five stars and recommend us to friends and colleagues.

    46 min
  3. Are the best lessons taught outside of the classroom?

    OCT 9

    Are the best lessons taught outside of the classroom?

    In Scotland, the government states that all children will have the opportunity to experience a four-night residential trip at some point during their time at school. With at least two-thirds of our educational experts based in Scotland, we took this opportunity to examine the role of education outside the classroom. This week co-hosts Ross Borthwick and Isabel Rich are joined by Tom Mason, Head of Outdoor Learning, to discuss the value and impact of learning outside. Together, they look at the origins of outdoor education and its transition from the periphery of the education world to its central role in our understanding of wellbeing and child development. Some of the resources mentioned in the episode or linked to it are listed below: Learning Through Landscapes https://ltl.org.uk/ The Field Studies Council, UK https://www.field-studies-council.org/ The John Muir Trust https://www.johnmuirtrust.org/ The Royal Geographical Society https://www.rgs.org/ The Duke of Edinburgh Award Scheme https://www.dofe.org/ The Outward Bound Trust, UK https://www.outwardbound.org.uk/ The Adventure Society, UK http://www.adventuresociety.co.uk/ PGL, UK https://schoolsandgroups.pgl.co.uk/ Oppidan Education, UK https://culdenfawestate.com/oppidan-camps-2/ Salem School, BadenWürrtemberg, Germany. https://www.schule-schloss-salem.de/en/ Glenalmond College, Pertshire, Scotland. https://www.glenalmondcollege.co.uk/ Gordonstoun School, Morayshire, Scotland. https://www.gordonstoun.org.uk/ Kurt Hahn: Inspirational, Visionary, Outdoor and Experiential Educator https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kurt-Hahn-Inspirational-Visionary-Experiential/dp/9460914675?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A2D6DCNETSBBFU

    52 min
  4. What does a child centred education look like?

    SEP 25

    What does a child centred education look like?

    Since the age of smart phones, navigating friendship, safety and self-esteem is ever more perilous and challenging for young people. Parents are seeing their children grow up in a world increasingly different from their own, while schools are having to adapt to a blurring of home life, school life and the online world. In Episode 1 of Season 3 of The Rest is Education, we ask what an education centred around the child and seen through the eyes of a child might look like. In this episode, David and Isabel are joined by Ramita Anand, educational consultant and founder of Elevate RA. Ramita has worked in many educational settings as a teacher and SENCO. She is the author of Girl Elevated and presents the podcast Elevate, which can be found wherever you get your pods and here: https://www.elevate-ra.com/podcast/ Books or websites recommended or mentioned in the episode: · The UN Convention on the Rights of the Child: https://www.unicef.org.uk/what-we-do/un-convention-child-rights/ · OECD (2024), What Does Child Empowerment Mean Today?: Implications for Education and Well-being, Educational Research and Innovation, OECD Publishing, Paris, https://doi.org/10.1787/8f80ce38-en. · Girl Elevated https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60712996-girl-elevated · Elevate RA https://www.elevate-ra.com/ book · Jonathan Haidt https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-new-yorker-interview/jonathan-haidt-wants-you-to-take-away-your-kids-phone · Marc Brackett – Permission to Feel & The Ruler Programme https://marcbrackett.com/permission-to-feel/ · Michael Ungar – I Still Love You https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24792938-i-still-love-you · Lisa Demour – Untangled https://drlisadamour.com/books/untangled/ podcast Ask Lisa · Becky Kennedy – Good Inside https://www.goodinside.com/ · Big Feelings – Mollie West Duffy & Liz Fosslien https://www.lizandmollie.com/big-feelings · The School of Life https://www.theschooloflife.com/ · Elizabeth Day – Friendaholic https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/67353385-friendaholic Email us: therestiseducation@gmail.com

    48 min
  5. How can we help support wellbeing in schools?

    JUN 5

    How can we help support wellbeing in schools?

    In this week's episode, we discuss the mental health crisis affecting staff in schools and look at some of the best ways to help develop a supportive wellbeing culture in schools. David talks with Hilary Plant and John Ansell, both experts in their own fields and experienced at providing support for schools in this area. Hilary is a local authority governor at a North London primary school. In addition to being the vice chair, link governor for SEND and inclusion and wellbeing governor, she is also a practising psychotherapist and has worked for many years in public health as a cancer nurse, researcher and senior manager. John is an expert trainer specialising in data machine learning and data science and a leadership coach, who has worked for numerous schools and education groups on one-to-one coaching with leaders, mostly in the independent sector. Some of the resources and websites mentioned in this episode include: The Education Staff Wellbeing Charter can be found here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/education-staff-wellbeing-charter On The Key, you can find a series of articles on workload and staff wellbeing, including a toolkit for line managers, You can sign up for a trial to access 3 free articles: https://schoolleaders.thekeysupport.com/staff/managing-school-staff/staff-wellbeing/ The Anna Freud Institute: https://www.annafreud.org/resources/schools-and-colleges/ten-ways-to-support-school-staff-wellbeing/ You can find John Ansell's coaching website here: https://www.johnansellcoaching.com/my-story If you are concerned about your welfare or the welfare of someone else, please reach out to speak to a trusted friend or colleague. You can also contact the Samaritans for free at any time day or night on 116 123: https://www.samaritans.org/?nation=scotland You can find out about the NEU (National Education Union) mental health charter here: https://neu.org.uk/latest/library/mental-health-charter If you have any questions for the team, want to clarify anything we misunderstood or add further details to the discussion, you can email us at therestiseducation@gmail.com Thank you, as always, for listening and supporting this podcast. The Rest is Education

    47 min
  6. The Best is History: Is history the best subject?

    FEB 28

    The Best is History: Is history the best subject?

    In episode 5 of season 2, David and Ross are joined by Rebecca Kennedy de Lorenzini to discuss the question, 'Is history the best subject?' Our working title 'The best is history' riffs off the popular UK-based podcast The Rest is History, a far grander and more established purveyor of fine historical discussion than us: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-rest-is-history/id1537788786 However, we think you'll agree, once you've listened to this 47-minute episode, that the historical discussion on offer here is as good as any you'll find. We have educational thinking, historical philosophy and a few grisly anecdotes thrown in for good measure! Rebecca is a history teacher at an independent day and boarding school in California, a former history and interdisciplinary humanities professor, and an expert on the cultural history of the African Diaspora. Ross is a housemaster at a leading independent boarding school in Scotland. He is also a former Head of History with over a decade’s experience teaching the subject to Common Entrance and Scholarship. Whilst he is currently in the Geography department, perhaps once a history teacher always a history teacher is as true a saying as any? You can find out more about Adam Frost's work, mapping and digitally documenting sites and collections here: https://www.engineshed.scot/about-us/teams/digital-documentation-and-innovation/ If you liked this episode, please leave us a review on Apple, Spotify, Audible or wherever you get your pods. You can email us at therestiseducation@gmail.com and also find us on LinkedIn and (sometimes) Instagram. The Rest is Education is a small, not-for-profit podcast run by three teachers. Thank you for listening and for supporting us with your time. We appreciate it so much and each download is an encouragement to us to keep recording and making episodes.

    46 min

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What should parents look for in a school? Why are so many teachers leaving the profession? Is homework really necessary? Join three teachers Ross, Isabel and David on The Rest is Education as they explore some of the big (and small) questions in the world of education. The views expressed on this podcast are those of the individuals presenting and not the organisations that they may represent. The Rest is Education was founded by teachers Aaron Huber, Ross Borthwick and David Marshall in 2022.

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