Orange Business Radio

Frank de Jong and Kerem Arsal
Orange Business Radio

Imagine a world without our smartphones and tablets. Surrounded by so many devices and apps, we have grown to appreciate the technology that makes our lives easier. At the same time, we know we are faced with constant change as we try to adapt to the rapid heartbeat of innovation. Technology companies are in a relentless pursuit to provide new services based on the latest technologies. In every episode of this podcast, Frank de Jong and Kerem Arsal will invite one or more guests to talk about not only the obvious, but try to "look behind the curtain" as well.

Episodes

  1. 12/10/2024

    #8 AI: from Greek to Geek

    Episode 8: AI: from Greek fo Geek This episode was recorded at NetworkX 2024 in Paris. Our guest is Israel Madiedo, Innovation and Technology Director at izzi. Welcome to Episode 8! In "AI: From Greek to Geek" is the last one we recorded at #NetworkX 2024 in Paris. Our guest is Israel Madiedo, Innovation and Technology Director at izzi. AI is a very hot topic this year and this is why we invited Israel (Izzy! Yes, he works at a company that has the same name and yes, that is a coincidence, but, how cool?!) to talk to us about AI. Izzy takes us to what he believes is the start of AI, which dates back to the ancient Greek. What follows is a journey across dreaming machines and the possibility of an AI winter. Not sure if that will happen, but an AI climate change seems inevitable.  Guest: Israel Madiedo - Innovation and Technology Director at izzi Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/israel-madiedo-571476/ More information: Yellow Medusa on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@yellowmedusa About the hosts: Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/ Email: frank.dejong@orange.com    Kerem Arsal Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently. Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sports commentator.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/ Email: kerem.arsal@omdia.com Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast. Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    35 min
  2. 11/25/2024

    #7 Analysts do not like hypes

    Episode 7: Analysts do not like hypes This episode was recorded at NetworkX 2024 in Paris. Our guest is Ronan de Renesse, VP Telecoms Research at Omdia With him, we talk about the daily life of an analyst. How do they build and grow their expertise. What does it take to become and remain a credible advisor. Ronan also discusses the importance of independence and how feedback loops affect the quality of their work. According to Ronan, everyone is a junior analyst. You should always question your beliefs and your data. This is the only way to get to better analysis Guest: Ronan de Renesse - VP Telecoms Research at Omdia https://www.linkedin.com/in/derenesser/ About the hosts: Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/ Email: frank.dejong@orange.com     Kerem Arsal Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently. Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sports commentator.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/ Email: kerem.arsal@omdia.com Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast. Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    40 min
  3. 11/11/2024

    #6 In Quantum, everything is complex

    Episode 6: In Quantum, everything is complex This episode was recorded at NetworkX 2024 in Paris. Our guest is Jean-Luc Vuillemin, Executive Vice President International Network, at Orange Quantum technology is counter-intuitive for many people. Kerem is no exception to that. In this podcast we can hear how Jean-Luc explains Quantum computing and Quantum Internet to Kerem (and you) and how Kerem is becoming increasingly enthusiastic about it. Jean-Luc covers use cases of Quantum Computing, the technological challenge of creating Qubits of a sufficient quality and the Quantum Threat of Store-Now-Decrypt-Later attacks. He also explains the hybrid environment of Quantum and Non-Quantum technologies and the current and (near) future developments Guest: Jean-Luc Vuillemin - Executive Vice President International Network, Technology Advisor - Orange Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jean-luc-vuillemin/ More information: https://www.oezratty.net/wordpress/2024/understanding-quantum-technologies-2024/ About the hosts: Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/ Email: frank.dejong@orange.com     Kerem Arsal Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently. Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sports commentator.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/ Email: kerem.arsal@omdia.com Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast. Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    42 min
  4. 10/28/2024

    #5 private 5G : Things Take Time

    Episode 5: private 5G : Things Take Time This episode was recorded at NetworkX 2024 in Paris. Our guest is Terje Jensen, Senior Vice President, Global Business Security Officer and Head of Network and Cloud technology strategy at Telenor. Terje explains that it is important to focus on use cases instead of on technology and shares a number of use cases where (private) 5G really makes sense. A conversation about what problems we are actually trying to solve, fiddling with operational environments, and whether Private 5G will make anyone rich ;) Guest: Terje Jensen - Senior Vice President, Global Business Security Officer and Head of Network and Cloud technology strategy - Telenor Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terje-jensen-48b0939/ About the hosts: Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/ Email: frank.dejong@orange.com     Kerem Arsal Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently. Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sports commentator.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/ Email: kerem.arsal@omdia.com Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast. Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    36 min
  5. 10/14/2024

    #4 There's money in the back of the sofa

    Episode 4: There's money in the back of the sofa This episode was recorded at NetworkX 2024 in Paris. Our guest is Camille Mendler, Chief Analyst at Omdia. With her, we discuss the state of the telecoms industry today and the untapped potential that is still there. Camille explains how, according to her, there is plenty of opportunity for telecom operators to make money when they can make up their mind whether they want to go for world domination or incremental revenue. Do we really need to build balloons and send rockets to space and are we really going to send each other holograms for Christmas? Guest: Camille Mendler - Chief Analyst - Omdia Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/camillemendler/ Reference material: https://www.amazon.com/End-Telecoms-History-William-Webb-ebook/dp/B0D83W23CB      About the hosts: Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/ Email: frank.dejong@orange.com     Kerem Arsal Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently. Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sports commentator.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/ Email: kerem.arsal@omdia.com         Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast. Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    31 min
  6. 09/16/2024

    #3 Being invisible is hard work actually

    Episode 3: Being invisible is hard work actually This episode was recorded at the Orange Business "Insights 2024" analyst event in Amsterdam. Our guest is Wassila Zitoune, Chief Operating Officer at Orange Business. With her, we discuss how the ultimate goal of an infrastructure operator is to be invisible to the end-user. Wassila explains how being professionally paranoid helps delivering a great experience on large events like the Olympic Games, whilst continuing the daily work for all existing customers. We cover the good and bad of regulation in telecoms and the balance between innovation and execution. Guest: Wassila Zitoune - Chief Operating Officer - Orange Business https://www.linkedin.com/in/wassila-zitoune-00a38818/      About the hosts: Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/ Email: frank.dejong@orange.com     Kerem Arsal Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently. Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sports commentator.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/ Email: kerem.arsal@omdia.com         Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast. Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    36 min
  7. 09/02/2024

    #2 GenAI doesn't make everyone a Genius

    Episode 2: GenAI doesn't make everyone a Genius This episode was recorded at the Orange Business "Insights 2024" analyst event in Amsterdam. Our guest is Michael Deheneffe, Director Marketing & Innovation at Orange Business Services, Digital & Data. Michael has degrees in Data Science, Economics and Ethics and has been working in Data Science for many years. Together with him, we try to separate fact from fiction in the area of (Gen)AI. We also try to find an answer to questions like: Is GenAI a hype? How can we best leverage GenAI? How do we avoid Bias in GenAI? What about Intellectual Property? Is (Gen)AI scary or not?   Guest: Michael Deheneffe - Director Marketing & Innovation at Orange Business Services, Digital & Data Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeldeheneffe/    About the hosts: Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of Telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/ Email: frank.dejong@orange.com   Kerem Arsal Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently. Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sports commentator. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/ Email: kerem.arsal@omdia.com   Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast. Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    50 min
  8. 08/15/2024

    #1 Internet is the Flux Capacitor of our time

    Episode 1: Internet is the Flux Capacitor of our time In this episode, which was recorded at the Orange Business "Insights 2024" analyst event in Amsterdam, we discuss the role of Technology, Science and Discovery. Our guest is Usman Javaid, Chief Products & Marketing Officer at Orange Business. He outlines the importance of researching the societal impact of technology and shares his first-hand experience with how the different generations deal with the seismic shifts in the technology landscape.   Guest: Usman Javaid - Chief Products & Marketing Officer at Orange Business LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/usmanjavaid/   About the hosts: Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of Telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠ Email: ⁠frank.dejong@orange.com⁠   Kerem Arsal Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently. Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sports commentator. LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/⁠ Email: ⁠kerem.arsal@omdia.com⁠   Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast. Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    35 min
  9. SEASON 1, EPISODE 1 TRAILER

    #0 Passionately curious about the impact of technology

    Orange Business Radio Passionately curious about the impact of technology Introduction: It is almost impossible to imagine a world without our smartphones, tablets, smart gadgets, and always-on communication. Surrounded by and dependent on so many devices, applications, and constant connectivity, we have grown to appreciate the many ways that technology makes our lives easier and better. At the same time, we know we are faced with constant change as we try to adapt to the rapid heartbeat of tech-led innovation. Technology companies, ranging from hardware vendors and telecom operators to cloud service providers and application developers, are in a relentless pursuit to develop and market new products and services based on the latest technologies. Some of these innovations immediately enter our lives whether we like it or not, some are never embraced at scale, and some need a lot of time to make it from their initial hype to a phase where they impact the day-to-day operations of our businesses or our everyday lives as consumers and citizens.   It is in this context that Frank de Jong, a tech evangelist and program director at Orange Business, got into a conversation with Kerem Arsal, a seasoned tech analyst at Omdia. Their conversation became a heated discussion on the impact of technology on today's society and what the intended and unintended consequences of certain technologies could be. They may not agree on everything, but they both firmly believe in the importance of thinking critically about how technologies affect our societies and how societies influence the adoption of technologies.   Orange Business recognizes the value of this type of conversations and provides Frank and Kerem with the possibility to produce this podcast. In every episode, Frank and Kerem will invite one or more guests to talk about one aspect of today's technology and share their expertise with us. Being the passionately curious guys that they are, Frank and Kerem do not only ask the obvious questions but try to "look behind the curtain", as well.    If you believe you have an interesting topic to discuss in this podcast, feel free to reach out to us. About Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of Telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/ Email: frank.dejong@orange.com About Kerem Arsal Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently. Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sports commentator. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/ Email: kerem.arsal@omdia.com   Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast. Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    8 min

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Imagine a world without our smartphones and tablets. Surrounded by so many devices and apps, we have grown to appreciate the technology that makes our lives easier. At the same time, we know we are faced with constant change as we try to adapt to the rapid heartbeat of innovation. Technology companies are in a relentless pursuit to provide new services based on the latest technologies. In every episode of this podcast, Frank de Jong and Kerem Arsal will invite one or more guests to talk about not only the obvious, but try to "look behind the curtain" as well.

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