Orange Business Radio

Frank de Jong and Kerem Arsal

Imagine a world without our smartphones and tablets. Surrounded by so many devices and apps, we have grown to appreciate the technology that makes our lives easier. At the same time, we know we are faced with constant change as we try to adapt to the rapid heartbeat of innovation. Technology companies are in a relentless pursuit to provide new services based on the latest technologies. In every episode of this podcast, Frank de Jong and Kerem Arsal will invite one or more guests to talk about not only the obvious, but try to "look behind the curtain" as well.

  1. 5D AGO

    #18: What if work would be good for your mental health

    Episode 18: What if work would be good for your mental health? In this episode we talk with Petra Velzeboer about Digital Wellbeing, at work and at home. Petra is the author of two books on mental health and a Global Keynote and TEDx speaker. We discuss the impact of social media, AI and other digital tools on our daily lives and Petra provides valuable insights and some good tips Guest: Petra Velzeboer, Global Keynote and TEDx speaker, author of Begin With You and Digital Wellbeing Useful links: Petra's website with her books and lots more Disrupting Wellbeing, Petra's own podcast. The offline-club Center For Humane Technology About the hosts: Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠⁠frank.dejong@orange.com⁠⁠⁠ Francine Linzell "The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her mom LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinelinzell/ Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast. Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    52 min
  2. NOV 20

    #17: Do we REALLY need all those datacenters?

    Episode 17: Do we REALLY need all those datacenters? In this episode we talk with Vlad Galabov about the ever growing demand for data center capacity worldwide. We talk about the impact of AI on that demand and how the data center providers are trying to address environmental challenges. Guest: Vlad Galabov, Senior Director Enterprise Infrastructure Research at ⁠Omdia⁠ ⁠LinkedIn⁠ About the hosts: Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠frank.dejong@orange.com⁠⁠ Kerem Arsal Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator. LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠kerem.arsal@omdia.com⁠⁠ Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast. Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    46 min
  3. NOV 5

    #16: Fiber To The Home is (finally) picking up

    Episode 16: Fiber To The Home is (finally) picking up In this episode we talk with Stephen Wilson about how and why FttX (Fiber to the Premise) is finally becoming a big success for operators after being a promise for more than 20 years. We discuss how the technology works and what the pros (and some cons) are, compared to other (old and new) technologies. Guest: Stephen Wilson, senior principal analyst at Omdia LinkedIn About the hosts: Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠ Email: ⁠frank.dejong@orange.com⁠ Kerem Arsal Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator. LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/⁠ Email: ⁠kerem.arsal@omdia.com⁠ Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast. Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    53 min
  4. AUG 7

    #15: A (slightly) deeper dive into Quantum

    Episode 15: A (slightIy) deeper dive into Quantum In this episode we talk with Dr. Andrew Shields about Quantum Technology, Quantum Computers and Quantum (Safe) Networks. We learn more about the current state of technology and what the future has in store for us. Guest: Andrew Shields, Vice President and General Manager of the Quantum Technology Division at Toshiba Europe Ltd LinkedIn Lee Johnson, Business Development Manager at Toshiba Europe Ltd LinkedIn About the hosts: Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/ Email: frank.dejong@orange.com Kerem Arsal Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/ Email: kerem.arsal@omdia.com Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast. Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    35 min
  5. AUG 1

    #14: How to successfully transform an enterprise into a digital native enterprise

    Episode 14: How to successfully transform an enterprise into a digital native enterprise.This episode is recorded at #Insights2025, the yearly analyst event of Orange Business. Our guests are Hriday Ravindranath, CDIO at Orange Business and Emma Buckland, Principal Analyst at STL partnersIn this episode we discuss what it takes to transform an enterprise from legacy to a digital company. Hriday describes how building a completely new IT stack will help organizations provide next-generation-products to their customers. Emma explains what she see happening in the market and how this transformation not only is technical but also has a large impact on how people need to be educated and that it requires a fundamental change in the way we look at work. Guests: Hriday Ravindranath, Chief Digital and Information Officer at Orange Business LinkedIn Emma Buckland, Principal Analyst - Telco Cloud & Networks at STL Partners LinkedIn About the hosts: Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠ Email: ⁠frank.dejong@orange.com⁠ Kerem Arsal Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator. LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/⁠ Email: ⁠kerem.arsal@omdia.com⁠ Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    43 min
  6. #13: Is 5G (still) a technology looking for a use case?

    JUL 16

    #13: Is 5G (still) a technology looking for a use case?

    Episode 13: Is 5G (still) a technology looking for a use case? Welcome to Episode 13! This episode is recorded at #Insights2025, the yearly analyst event of Orange Business. Our guest is Pablo Tomasi, Principal Analyst - Private Networks at Omdia 5G has been around for a while and at the time of launch of this "new G", there were many promises around this next iteration of the mobile network. What has become reality sofar and what can we expect in the future? Pablo shares his views with us, and we share our views with him. Guest: Pablo Tomasi, Principal Analyst - Private Networks at Omdia https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablo-tomasi-2a808b94/ More information: Telco Drift Podcast About the hosts: Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/ Email: frank.dejong@orange.com Kerem Arsal Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/ Email: kerem.arsal@omdia.com Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast. Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    46 min
  7. #12: The struggle for digital (and some analog) inclusion

    JUL 16

    #12: The struggle for digital (and some analog) inclusion

    Episode 12: AI: The struggle for digital inclusion Welcome to Episode 12! This episode is recorded at #Insights2025, the yearly analyst event of Orange Business. Our guest is Chris Lewis, Telecoms Industry and Accessibility Analyst, Strategic Advisor, Public Speaker and Founder of The Great Telco Debate. Chris is registered blind and is doing a lot of research on digital inclusion. We discuss the challenges for disabled people and also how modern tools help him perform his job and navigate through life (at least, when they are implemented correctly)  Guest: Chris Lewis, Telecoms Industry and Accessibility Analyst, Strategic Advisor, Public Speaker and Founder of The Great Telco Debate. https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-lewis-3b01593/ More information: Lewis Insight Be My Eyes Inclusively Telecom Podcast About the hosts: Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/ Email: frank.dejong@orange.com    Kerem Arsal Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/ Email: kerem.arsal@omdia.com Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast. Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    45 min
  8. #11: Transformation is all about the people

    JUL 14

    #11: Transformation is all about the people

    Episode 11: Transformation is all about the people Guest: Laurent Aufils: Chief People Officer at Orange Business LinkedIn About the hosts: Frank de Jong Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/ Email: frank.dejong@orange.com    Kerem Arsal Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/ Email: kerem.arsal@omdia.com Disclaimer: This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast. Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

    45 min

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Imagine a world without our smartphones and tablets. Surrounded by so many devices and apps, we have grown to appreciate the technology that makes our lives easier. At the same time, we know we are faced with constant change as we try to adapt to the rapid heartbeat of innovation. Technology companies are in a relentless pursuit to provide new services based on the latest technologies. In every episode of this podcast, Frank de Jong and Kerem Arsal will invite one or more guests to talk about not only the obvious, but try to "look behind the curtain" as well.