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Ep. 356
Did you know Lovable is the fastest-growing AI app on the planet—scaling faster than ChatGPT?
Kieran dives into what it takes to succeed in today’s AI-native startup world, with growth leader Elena Verna revealing how Lovable is changing the game for building and scaling tech companies. Learn more on why traditional management roles are disappearing, how end-to-end ownership and autonomy are driving insane speed at Lovable, and how the growth playbook is transforming for a generation of AI-powered products.
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Elena Verna https://www.linkedin.com/in/elenaverna/
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Lovable https://lovable.dev/
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Cursor https://cursor.com/
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Miro https://miro.com/
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SurveyMonkey https://www.surveymonkey.com/
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- FrequencyUpdated twice weekly
- Published26 August 2025 at 05:00 UTC
- Length45 min
- Season1
- Episode356
- RatingClean