Secret Sonics

Ben Wallick and Carl Bahner
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Join mix engineers Ben Wallick and Carl Bahner as they team up to discuss the real-world trials and triumphs of music production. Tactical advice on skill development, mixing mindsets, personal branding, and achieving work-life rhythm in an evolving industry. The motivation and strategic insights you need to build your dream creative career in music and audio. Fresh episodes every week.

  1. 5 AUG

    #256 - The Subtle Art of Layering Percussion

    Ben and Carl share some of the techniques they use to add percussive depth without cluttering your mix. Learn why texture beats rhythm, how to stretch samples for supernatural groove, and the specific workflow for making percussion serve your song instead of competing with it. Discover: Why Carl’s orchestral training taught him to add texture instead of rhythm to modern pop mixesHow time-stretching a sample creates unique transient effects you can’t get any other wayHow adding one extra rhythmic element can destroy the unison power of an entire mixThe Middle Eastern groove Ben constructed sample by sample because no loop existed for what he neededWhen to mute it and boot it if your percussion isn’t making the song better Ben and Carl's Weekly Inspiration Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IpnxDVoTY44JBV1j19H4h?si=0f80e020d8ae497e LA Wildfire Relief: Musicares - https://donor.musicares.org/page/lafirerelief WAMTN - https://give.wearemovingtheneedle.org/campaign/654724/donate Learn more about StudioLand - https://www.welcometostudioland.com/a/2147995182/bmyFf8p5 Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing Connect with us: Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/ Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/ Learn more: https://www.benwallick.com/ https://www.carlbahner.com/ This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

    26 min

  2. 22 JUL

    #255 - Energy Vampires Are Killing Your Career

    What happens when a successful music producer realizes he’s been working with the wrong people for years? Carl reveals the moment everything changed after his first child was born, and why he now prioritizes client personalities over everything else. The conversation gets deep about energy vampires, family priorities, and a surprising truth about word-of-mouth referrals. Discover: Why Carl went from doing 150 shows a year to being extremely picky about clients after having kidsThe exact moment he realized $50 bar gigs weren’t worth his time or energy anymoreWhy that ridiculously talented Berkeley guitarist everyone knows is actually bad for businessThe surprising reason word-of-mouth referrals can trap you with similar low-quality clientsHow to recognize if you’re being a pushover with difficult clients who love unlimited revisions Ben and Carl's Weekly Inspiration Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IpnxDVoTY44JBV1j19H4h?si=0f80e020d8ae497e LA Wildfire Relief: Musicares - https://donor.musicares.org/page/lafirerelief WAMTN - https://give.wearemovingtheneedle.org/campaign/654724/donate Learn more about StudioLand - https://www.welcometostudioland.com/a/2147995182/bmyFf8p5 Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing Connect with us: Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/ Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/ Learn more: https://www.benwallick.com/ https://www.carlbahner.com/ This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

    29 min

  3. 8 JUL

    #254 - The Shelf-Life of Major Credits

    Learn the three essential principles that turn your biggest credits into sustainable income, why Grammy winners still struggle to find work, and how to position yourself so clients see your rate as a steal instead of an expense. Carl shares real strategies from working with 15+ Grammy-winning students who came to him for business help. Discover: The uncomfortable reality that major awards have expiration dates for client attractionHow the music industry shifted from 4,000 annual albums in 1970 to 100,000 daily uploadsWhy high-end mixing engineers charge based on peace of mind rather than sound qualityThe four client decision levels from price-shopping to relationship-based hiringHow major label timelines create cascading risks worth paying premium rates to avoidWhy existing clients resist rate increases but new clients accept higher starting prices Ben and Carl's Weekly Inspiration Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IpnxDVoTY44JBV1j19H4h?si=0f80e020d8ae497e LA Wildfire Relief: Musicares - https://donor.musicares.org/page/lafirerelief WAMTN - https://give.wearemovingtheneedle.org/campaign/654724/donate Learn more about StudioLand - https://www.welcometostudioland.com/a/2147995182/bmyFf8p5 Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing Connect with us: Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/ Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/ Learn more: https://www.benwallick.com/ https://www.carlbahner.com/ This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

    44 min

  4. 24 JUN

    #253 - Dave Stagl: Leaving Artists Speechless with Dolby Atmos

    Learn why one of the most experienced immersive audio engineers believes most people are approaching Dolby Atmos completely wrong, and discover the emotional framework that’s helping artists create deeper connections with their fans. Plus, find out what producers should actually look for when hiring an Atmos engineer and why checking mixes in multiple formats could transform your workflow. Discover: The exact moment in a House of Blues monitor setup that shaped how he thinks about immersive audioWhy he now derives every stereo mix from an Atmos version instead of working the other way aroundThe technical reason Atmos mixes have more dynamic range and why that creates stronger emotional impactWhat happens when artists flip between stereo and Atmos versions on Apple devices and why that changes everythingThe calibration approach that lets him mix without looking at meters for the first time in 20 yearsThe difference between engineers who got into Atmos for work versus those who got into it for the experienceHow he sends preview files to remote artists without requiring them to read instruction manualsWhy he believes car audio will be the thing that separates real Atmos engineers from headphone-only mixersLearn more about Dave: https://staglsound.com/ Follow Dave: http://instagram.com/davidstagl Ben and Carl's Weekly Inspiration Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IpnxDVoTY44JBV1j19H4h?si=0f80e020d8ae497e LA Wildfire Relief: Musicares - https://donor.musicares.org/page/lafirerelief WAMTN - https://give.wearemovingtheneedle.org/campaign/654724/donate Learn more about StudioLand - https://www.welcometostudioland.com/a/2147995182/bmyFf8p5 Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing Connect with us: Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/ Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/ Learn more: https://www.benwallick.com/ https://www.carlbahner.com/ This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

    56 min

  5. 17 JUN

    #252 - The NEW Business of Mixing

    What happens when a mixing engineer accidentally builds clients in 30 countries while living in Pennsylvania? Carl discovered that global currency differences and economic crashes might be the secret weapon most audio professionals are completely ignoring. Discover: Why COVID permanently shifted the industry away from big city studiosHow global economic instability can actually stabilize a mixing engineer’s incomeHow mixing engineers became accidental project managers for self-produced artistsThe math behind why international diversification beats local word-of-mouthWhen Carl recommends other engineers to look like a hero to their clients Ben and Carl's Weekly Inspiration Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IpnxDVoTY44JBV1j19H4h?si=0f80e020d8ae497e LA Wildfire Relief: Musicares - https://donor.musicares.org/page/lafirerelief WAMTN - https://give.wearemovingtheneedle.org/campaign/654724/donate Learn more about StudioLand - https://www.welcometostudioland.com/a/2147995182/bmyFf8p5 Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing Connect with us: Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/ Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/ Learn more: https://www.benwallick.com/ https://www.carlbahner.com/ This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

    39 min

  6. 10 JUN

    #251 - Context Context Context (Vocals Pt2)

    What makes a vocal feel perfectly placed… or totally disconnected? This week, we’re getting way past plugin chains and diving into the real work of vocal mixing: context. We’re talking about how to make vocals live in a mix, not just sit on top of it. Because getting a vocal to shine isn’t just about EQ moves - it’s about storytelling, space, and knowing who gets the spotlight in each moment. We explore how we mix vocals completely differently - yet still aim for the same emotional clarity - and even find ourselves (gasp) passionately disagreeing about Vampire Weekend. Discover: Why the instrumental is the first thing we fix when vocals don’t feel rightThe “lead vocal vs. background vocal” question we think is kind of a trapThe one question Carl asks in every section of every songWhen to make vocals felt not heard (and how that changes your mix decisions)Why we don’t always high-pass vocals—and what we do insteadThe subtle sidechain trick that helps your vocals breathe without boosting themWhen sharing reverbs between vocals and instruments makes your mix snap togetherThe difference between using reverb for space vs. characterCarl’s favorite compressor to kill backing vocal transients (in a good way)What mixing has to do with stage plays, ransom letters, and emotional punch Ben and Carl's Weekly Inspiration Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IpnxDVoTY44JBV1j19H4h?si=0f80e020d8ae497e LA Wildfire Relief: Musicares - https://donor.musicares.org/page/lafirerelief WAMTN - https://give.wearemovingtheneedle.org/campaign/654724/donate Learn more about StudioLand - https://www.welcometostudioland.com/a/2147995182/bmyFf8p5 Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing Connect with us: Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/ Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/ Learn more: https://www.benwallick.com/ https://www.carlbahner.com/ This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

    44 min

  7. 3 JUN

    Quick Announcement: Taking a Week Off to Celebrate 6 Years and 250 Episodes

    Quick Announcement: Taking a Week Off to Celebrate 6 Years and 250 Episodes - because we deserve it!

    1 min

  8. 27 MAY

    #250 - Are We Making Vocals Too Perfect? (Pt1)

    Two cranky engineers accidentally reveal why your technically perfect vocals sound emotionally dead In this episode, Ben and Carl dive into why the "mistakes" you're fixing might be the only thing keeping your vocals human. From pre-production psychology to multi-de-esser philosophy, they challenge everything you think you know about processing vocals. Discover: How over-rehearsed bands sabotage their own records (and why pop artists need completely different rules)Reading the room and matching your approach to the artist's psychologyWhy perfect tuning kills emotion and when to leave the "mistakes" inWhy using multiple light processors beats one heavy one (and Carl's controversial multi-de-esser approach)How deliberately bad cuts make choruses hit like trucks Ben and Carl's Weekly Inspiration Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IpnxDVoTY44JBV1j19H4h?si=0f80e020d8ae497e LA Wildfire Relief: Musicares - https://donor.musicares.org/page/lafirerelief WAMTN - https://give.wearemovingtheneedle.org/campaign/654724/donate Learn more about StudioLand - https://www.welcometostudioland.com/a/2147995182/bmyFf8p5 Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing Connect with us: Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/ Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/ Learn more: https://www.benwallick.com/ https://www.carlbahner.com/ This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

    24 min
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Join mix engineers Ben Wallick and Carl Bahner as they team up to discuss the real-world trials and triumphs of music production. Tactical advice on skill development, mixing mindsets, personal branding, and achieving work-life rhythm in an evolving industry. The motivation and strategic insights you need to build your dream creative career in music and audio. Fresh episodes every week.

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  • Creator
    Ben Wallick and Carl Bahner
  • Years Active
    2019 - 2025
  • Episodes
    285
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Copyright Ben Wallick
  • Show Website
    Secret Sonics

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