Two Plus Two: The Swinger Podcast for Couples

Zack, Josie, Brad, Brittany
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Step into a candid, fun, and enlightening conversation with two full-swap couples as they share intimate details about their journey as swingers. Raw and vulnerable, Josie, Zack, Brad and Brittany share their own insecurities, boundaries, and relationship dynamics. They offer practical tips for connecting with others and understanding lifestyle etiquette. This podcast is designed to feel like a close, candid chat among friends. With playful storytelling and real-life advice, it promises to be both entertaining and informative for anyone curious about the swinging lifestyle.

  1. 1 DAY AGO

    Ep 39: Swinging Isn’t Judgment-Free (And That’s a Good Thing)

    In this episode, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany break down why judgment isn’t always a dirty word—it’s simply part of deciding what (and who) makes you tingle. These playful vampires of the mic aren’t here to drain the fun—they’re teasing apart why “judgment-free” might be more fantasy than fact. From judging to being judged, they share stories of decisions (not damnations), kinks that don’t quite fit, and the delicate dance of acceptance versus attraction. Whether you’re an introvert, extrovert, or somewhere in between, this conversation proves that a little judgment can be just as sexy as it is honest. JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (00:00:00) Is the lifestyle really judgment free (00:04:10) Judgment defined (00:05:39) An example of judgment (00:06:16) Why the topic of judgment came up(00:09:12) Digging on use of the word and why we use it (00:11:06) Politics and other musings (00:13:27) Not less judgmental just more accepting (00:14:58) Salted Caramel Cookie and Swappertunity69 (00:16:08) Tell me more about that (00:18:13) Replace ‘judgment’ with ‘decisions’ (00:19:54) Kinks and preferences that aren’t our own (00:21:35) Kink vs lifestyle vs swingers (00:24:02) Judgment and the feelings judgment creates (00:28:14) Ways to handle feeling judged (00:31:43) Being accepting doesn’t auto translate to fucking (00:33:12) Introverts and extroverts experience the lifestyle differently (00:38:05) Common perceptions of introverts vs extroverts (00:41:36) A potential strategy for introverts (00:42:37) Judgments we’ve each made (00:49:57) Trust and transparency is valuable to us (00:54:17) Share your opinions with us on Peaches’nCream We'd love to connect with you! Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle! Available on the App Store and on Google Play. INVITE CODE: 2plus2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany. Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

    56 min

  2. 10 SEPT

    Ep 38: Swinger Etiquette: Red Flags, Green Flags & Rabbit Holes

    This week, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany sink their teeth into one of the most talked-about topics in the lifestyle: red flags. And this time, it’s not just their own perspectives—they’re debating the warning signs shared by listeners on Peaches’nCream. From couples who feel like “fresh meat,” to partners who aren’t on the same page, to those misleading photos (or no photos at all), the crew unpacks the signals that can make or break a connection. But it’s not all caution tape—there are plenty of green flags, too, from inclusivity to empowerment and stretching comfort zones. With playful banter, candid stories, and just enough bite, this episode will leave you laughing, nodding along, and maybe rethinking your own approach to the lifestyle. JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (00:00:00) We asked our listeners (00:02:29) Red Flag 1: We are new and feel like ‘fresh meat’ (00:04:41) Being inclusive is more fun for everyone (00:07:00) Red Flag 2: Disrespecting their own partner (00:08:48) When one partner isn’t ‘into it’ and needs to drink to play (00:10:46) Red Flag 3: Too much attention can be a turn off (00:12:10) Red Flag 4: Name dropping (00:15:54) Red Flag 5: Misleading or just missing photos…of him  (00:17:17) Meeting virtually before an in-person meeting (00:21:04) Sunday night booty call (00:24:16) Everyone gets to do it their way (00:25:00) Green flags! (00:30:16) Expanding your comfort zone boundaries (00:33:00) Sexual liberation and empowerment (00:35:30) Talking about erections before a play session (00:40:29) When the dick shot doesn’t work (00:43:50) Sexual liberation and penis evolution (00:45:18) Red Flag 6: When couples or singles start messaging outside the group chat (00:45:42) Hooking up with someone of the same sex without your partner’s consent   (00:48:29) Red Flag 6 may not a red flag for everyone (00:54:06) Join the conversation on Peaches’nCream! We'd love to connect with you! Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle! Available on the App Store and on Google Play. INVITE CODE: 2plus2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany. Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

    56 min

  3. 3 SEPT

    Ep 37: From Forgettable to Fang-tastic: Crafting Your Swinger Brand

    This week, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany sink their fangs into a topic every lifestyle couple needs to hear—how to step up your game in and out of the bedroom. From first impressions that make her decide “yes” or “no” in ten seconds flat, to why looking like you “phoned it in” could cost you more than a date, the hosts share playful but practical advice for both husbands and wives on standing out for all the right reasons. With cheeky metaphors and plenty of flirty banter, they remind vampires that authenticity, effort, and a little polish go a long way toward making connections—and earning repeat invitations. Whether you’re new to the scene or a seasoned swinger, this episode proves that with a few tweaks, you can go from being a commodity to an unforgettable brand… and maybe even become the one everyone wants to sink their teeth into. JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (00:00:00) Top Tips for Lifestyle Husbands (00:02:33) It feels like some men just phone it in (00:04:42) A thought experiment (00:06:33) Lack of care in appearance may carry into the bedroom (00:08:05) It only takes 10 seconds for her to decide it’s a ‘no’ (00:10:25) You may develop a reputation…make it a good one! (00:11:26) Being a product vs a commodity (00:14:02) Spider monkey (00:15:21) What is a brand and where do you convey (explain, portray) (00:18:35) First impressions and attractions (00:20:56) Attracting attention and being authentic  (00:23:48) Authenticity can be scary (00:26:21) Real people make the lifestyle more rewarding (00:28:40) Showing your authentic self can take time for various reasons (00:32:15) Performance and improving your skills (00:36:33) Being responsive is a skill and is easier with an expressive partner (00:42:50) Why we created Two Plus Two (00:48:29) Your ticket to having more fun (00:50:13) The homework assignment (00:52:34) Small tweaks may produce better results (00:54:00) Join us on PnC, on the journey and on a trip! We'd love to connect with you! Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle! Available on the App Store and on Google Play. INVITE CODE: 2plus2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany. Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

    55 min

  4. 27 AUG

    Ep 36: Fangs vs. Fiction: Myths, Mischief & the Truth About Swingers

    In this episode, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany sink their teeth into nine of the most common myths about the swinging lifestyle. From the idea that swingers are just “sex-obsessed commitment-phobes” to the belief that every event is one giant orgy, the hosts pull back the velvet curtain and reveal what really happens when vampires come out to play. With humor, honesty, and a few cheeky double takes, they bust misconceptions that scare off the curious and confuse the vanillas. Whether you’re a newbie, considering the lifestyle, or just love a good myth-busting session, this episode proves that swinging isn’t all about sex—it’s about connection, communication, and maybe just a little bit of delicious mischief. JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (00:00:00) Swingers and baby oil (00:02:05) Myth One: Swingers are just sex obsessed people who can’t commit (00:03:45) Maybe we’re just more open about sex (00:05:54) We commit to exploring our sexuality (00:08:52) We can see why vanillas believe this myth (00:10:32) Myth Two: Swinging is just cheating with permission (00:14:26) Myth Three: Swinger events are just wild sex orgies (00:17:04) The image vs the reality (00:20:56) Playroom etiquette and orgies (00:22:50) Myth Four: Once you swing your relationship is doomed (00:24:43) You can try the lifestyle and later change your mind (00:26:41) The lifestyle can mean different things to different people (00:28:59) Myth Five: Women are pressured into the lifestyle to please their husbands (00:31:42) Men may be more likely to bring the topic up (00:34:52) It gave the women permission to explore the idea (00:37:25) Success in the lifestyle is all about your  resources (00:39:47) Myth Six: Swingers will hit on you anywhere (00:41:11) Every swinger needs a ‘how we met’ cover story (00:45:48) How vanillas react when they find out you’re swingers (00:46:23) Myth Seven: Swinging is only for couples (00:47:57) Myth Eight: Swingers are never jealous or insecure (00:51:36) What we’re thinking as we look around in a group of swingers (00:53:36) Missed opportunities occur with lack of communication (00:54:32) Why this misconception may exist (00:55:12) Myth Nine: The lifestyle is all about sex (00:57:41) If it’s not all about sex, what is it about? We'd love to connect with you! Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle! Available on the App Store and on Google Play. INVITE CODE: 2plus2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany. Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

    1h 2m

  5. 20 AUG

    Ep 35: The Swinger’s Guide to Flirting & Creating Connections

    In this episode, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany sink their teeth into the playful, pulse-quickening art of flirting in the lifestyle. From subtle glances to sizzling banter, the foursome shares their favorite ways to spark interest—whether one-on-one or as a perfectly in-sync team. They explore the idea of a “flirt language” and how it compares to love languages, all while keeping that all-important four-way chemistry alive. With tips on mirroring your partner, striking while the iron’s hot, and blending business-savvy confidence with bedroom charm, these sexy vampires prove that flirting isn’t just foreplay—it’s a skill worth mastering. Plus, they bite into the pros and cons of teasing over text versus turning up the heat in person. JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (00:00:00) Anticipation of what may cum (00:04:01) Flirting ‘techniques’ (00:07:10) Giving compliments without an agenda (00:12:24) Flirting in your love language…that wasn’t the question (00:15:33) Being flirted with in the way you flirt with others (00:18:59) Flirting is tedious to a degree (00:20:07) Flirting as an individual while keeping the four way connection in mind (00:21:47) Dynamics of flirting in the lifestyle as couples (00:23:55) When the women start things it’s easier for the men (00:26:06) Mirror your partner’s actions (00:28:19) Girls are flirting, but your partner’s not interested (00:30:11) Tag team flirting…it’s an art (00:33:49) The lifestyle is very similar to business (00:36:32) There are lots of ways to approach the lifestyle (00:39:57) Playing to our strengths to create opportunities (00:44:08) Assertiveness plays a role and is situational (00:49:34) Striking while the iron is hot (00:52:08) Flirting over text vs in person (00:56:00) Takeaways   We'd love to connect with you! Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle! Available on the App Store and on Google Play. INVITE CODE: 2plus2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany. Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

    1 hr

  6. 13 AUG

    Ep 34: Drinking in the Swinging Lifestyle: Highs, Lows and the Social Flow

    In this week’s steamy episode, your favorite sexy vampires — Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany — sink their teeth into a spirited conversation about booze, buzzes, and bedroom bites. From liquid courage to THC-tinged tingles, they bare all about how their drinking and indulging habits have evolved over time. The coven shares tales of blurry playdates they wish they could sink their fangs into again (if only they could remember them), the shame hangovers that bite harder than any hickey, and the sweet spot between loosening up and losing control.  They debate the seductive dangers of “beer goggles,” sip on their differences over whether next-morning regrets are really regrets at all, and dish out bite-sized tips for keeping your pleasure high without going off the deep end. Whether you’re a teetotaler or a tipsy temptress, this episode is a potent cocktail of honesty, humor, and just enough bite to leave you thirsty for more. Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (00:00:00) It’s just social lubrication (00:01:46) Our alcohol consumption has ebbed and flowe d (00:04:28) Relying on a substance to enjoy the lifestyle (00:05:13) It can help slow racing thoughts (00:05:59) Not remembering things due to consumption (00:07:24) No one wants to be ‘that guy’ (00:09:16) Guilt and shame associated with drinking too much (00:12:46) There is a place for alcohol in the lifestyle (00:14:24) Brad’s dance juice (00:17:05) Is ‘needing’ alcohol okay? (00:18:17) Personal boundaries for consumption (00:21:28) Using CBD and THC for social anxiety (00:23:31) Some our best sex has been on THC (00:27:03) How much is too much? (00:31:12) Stopping yourself when you start to feel it (00:35:01) Consent can be tricky when alcohol is involved (00:37:46) Interacting with people who are under the influence (00:40:54) Getting out of Mommy Mode (00:42:00) Keeping sex top of mind may keep consumption low (00:44:25) Image and opinions when you drink too much or don’t drink at all (00:46:30) Strategies for staying hydrated and drinking less (00:47:43) Picking play partners with your beer goggles on (00:51:22) To regret or not to regret? (00:54:49) Takeaways We'd love to connect with you! Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle! Available on the App Store and on Google Play. INVITE CODE: 2plus2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany. Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

    57 min

  7. 6 AUG

    Ep 33: Swinger Communication: Flirty, Thirsty & Respectful

    Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany bare their feelings and share their experiences in this episode all about the fine art of letting your partner know you’d like a taste—without sinking your teeth in too deep. They tackle the tricky balance of sharing just how interested you are in a potential play partner, while keeping things sweet, sexy, and respectful for your life partner. Is it better to spill your level of thirst up front, or does that just stir up trouble? Should you play it cool or let your excitement show? And how does that honesty land differently for him versus her? The Two Plus Two Crew unwraps how they navigate these sticky moments—where sharing can build trust or accidentally bruise an ego. They get vulnerable as they discuss: Do you even know how much you’re into someone if you’ve only sized them up from across the bar? Does your partner’s vibe turn your heat up—or cool you down? And what happens when someone’s just a little too eager to pounce? Pour a drink, sharpen those fangs, and join your favorite vampires as they reveal how they keep communication flowing, the jealousy at bay, and the spark alive—without ever crossing the line from flirty to fatal. Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (00:00:00) Fuckable or not (00:02:42) It’s just a code word (00:04:35) Brad considers Brittany’s potential interest first (00:06:16) What is an appropriate level of interest to communicate to your partner? (00:09:01) Being too excited can turn your partner off (00:12:29) Does your partner’s interest influence your personal choice?  (00:15:25) Does your partner’s interest in someone turn you on or off? (00:18:37) Why don’t we have more transparency? (00:21:58) Creating comparisons and feeling insecure (00:24:29) Expressing a high level of interest can be a positive (00:27:57) Never say, ‘hell yes’ (00:30:26) A new strategy! (00:32:39) We continue to evolve (00:38:14) Does sharing your level of interest matter? (00:40:45) ‘Rating’ scales can be useful (00:43:21) Connect with us online and in person (00:45:44) This conversation has been illuminating We'd love to connect with you! Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle! Available on the App Store and on Google Play. INVITE CODE: 2plus2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany. Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

    47 min

  8. 30 JUL

    Ep 32: Swinger Confessions: When the Fangs Came Out… and So Did Josie

    Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany bare it all—again—in this deliciously unexpected tale of how one round of Yay, Nay, May or Oh, I’ve Played turned into Josie’s first taste of girl-on-girl fun. Your favorite vampires spill every juicy detail about how a couple of espresso martinis, a few lemon drops, and four best friends in a flirtatious mood brewed up the perfect concoction for a night of naughtiness no one saw coming—especially Josie, who’s always been adamant she was only into men. When the fangs came out and the clothes came off, everyone found themselves feasting on the moment, savoring a completely surreal play session so organic and electric it rocketed straight to the top of their all-time naughty list. For once, even Zack’s mind stopped spinning long enough for him to soak it all in—every moan, every bite, every surprise twist. So pour yourself a martini (or three) and listen in as the Two Plus Two Crew relives the night Josie discovered how fun a little girl-on-girl action —with the right woman can be. After all, when vampires mix martinis with mischief, no one’s safe from temptation. Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (00:00:00) A little teaser… (00:01:29) Flashback to a conversation we had before we recorded our last episode (00:03:03) Back to the present… (00:04:32) Espresso and lemon drop martinis…the magic combo for naughtiness (00:06:09) That’s when her clothes came off (00:08:30) It turned into a M.A.S.H. unit triage (00:09:19) It just felt organic (00:10:18) We were like the Three Stooges running around setting things up (00:12:39) Brittany goes down on Josie (00:15:06) Sunday Fun Day (00:17:17) Zack’s role in Josie’s experience was very surreal (00:19:39) Why it worked even though it was not a decision we made together (00:20:53) What just happened? (00:21:45) I was almost as surprised as you! (00:23:19) Best foursome by definition I’ve ever had (00:25:34) It was all gas, no brakes (00:28:11) I know what to do with this (00:29:20) There’s one more thing (00:30:32) What does this mean for me? (00:31:53) Vampire evolution (00:33:59) There doesn’t have to be a label on it (00:35:06) What the lifestyle is all about [for Zack and Josie] (00:37:11) When your motives for getting in may be selfish (00:39:13) A different kind of growth (00:42:25) Breaking the seal (00:45:22) I made you squeal (00:46:19) Zack’s big ‘O’ and Brittany’s booty (00:48:46) Sometimes we get in our own way(00:50:13) Being structured vs go with the flow (00:55:32) What makes going ‘off script’ work (00:56:25) From our listeners (00:57:28) Join the conversation on PnC…Invite Code 2plus2 (00:58:46) Parting thoughts on our impromptu play session  We'd love to connect with you! Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle! Available on the App Store and on Google Play. INVITE CODE: 2plus2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany. Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

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Step into a candid, fun, and enlightening conversation with two full-swap couples as they share intimate details about their journey as swingers. Raw and vulnerable, Josie, Zack, Brad and Brittany share their own insecurities, boundaries, and relationship dynamics. They offer practical tips for connecting with others and understanding lifestyle etiquette. This podcast is designed to feel like a close, candid chat among friends. With playful storytelling and real-life advice, it promises to be both entertaining and informative for anyone curious about the swinging lifestyle.

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