Uplifted by sexy dragons (with Bishop Rose Hudson-Wilkin)

Happy Thursday! Jane and Fi ponder the genre of romantasy, the satisfaction of doing laundry and the word 'uncouth'.

Plus, Rt Revd Rose Hudson-Wilkin, Bishop of Dover, discusses her book 'The Girl from Montego Bay: The Autobiography of Britain's First Black Woman Bishop'.

The next book club pick has been announced! 'Eight Months on Ghazzah Street' is by Hilary Mantel.

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Podcast Producer: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler

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