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This podcast seeks to learn what war teaches. There has been a steady decline in the study of military history and its associated theoretical discipline, strategy.This podcast seeks to fill that gap through in-depth interviews on military and diplomatic history.  Our guests have included former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, the Cold War historian John Lewis Gaddis, and China Select Committee chairman Mike Gallagher. We discuss the battlefield commanders, diplomats, strategists, policymakers, and statesmen who have had to make wartime decisions in the ancient and modern eras.The subject of an episode may be an historical battle, campaign, or conflict; the conduct of policy in the course of a major international incident; the work of a famous strategist; the nature of a famous weapon; or the legacy of an important military commander or political leader.  

Aaron MacLean is a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps.

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This podcast seeks to learn what war teaches. There has been a steady decline in the study of military history and its associated theoretical discipline, strategy.This podcast seeks to fill that gap through in-depth interviews on military and diplomatic history.  Our guests have included former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, the Cold War historian John Lewis Gaddis, and China Select Committee chairman Mike Gallagher. We discuss the battlefield commanders, diplomats, strategists, policymakers, and statesmen who have had to make wartime decisions in the ancient and modern eras.The subject of an episode may be an historical battle, campaign, or conflict; the conduct of policy in the course of a major international incident; the work of a famous strategist; the nature of a famous weapon; or the legacy of an important military commander or political leader.  

Aaron MacLean is a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps.

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    Ep 120: Iskander Rehman on the Emperor Tiberius and American Primacy

    Ep 120: Iskander Rehman on the Emperor Tiberius and American Primacy

    Iskander Rehman, Ax:son Johnson Fellow at the Johns Hopkins SAIS Kissinger Center and author of Iron Imperator: Roman Grand Strategy Under Tiberius, joins the show to talk about the military career and statecraft of Tiberius and what his career has to teach us today.
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        •      02:32 Introduction 
        •      03:29 The Pentagon and Rome
        •      07:29 Why Tiberius?
        •      15:04 Parallels 
        •      18:26 Germania
        •      22:38 Roman criticism 
        •      28:03 Auxiliaries and proxies 
        •      32:09 Diplomacy and a recruitment crisis
        •      34:00 A brilliant military career
        •      37:17 Force structure
        •      41:18 Parthian Cold War

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    • 44 min
    Ep 119: Yaroslav Trofimov on the War in Ukraine

    Ep 119: Yaroslav Trofimov on the War in Ukraine

    Yaroslav Trofimov, chief foreign-affairs correspondent at The Wall Street Journal and author of Our Enemies Will Vanish: The Russian Invasion and Ukraine's War of Independence, joins the show to talk about the early days of Russia’s war in Ukraine, how the battlefield has evolved, and where the war may be headed.
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        •      01:48 Introduction 
        •      02:06 Growing up Ukranian
        •      05:03 The collapse of Kabul
        •      07:40 Leadership counts 
        •      10:14 Zelensky
        •      16:20 How did Putin get Ukraine so wrong? 
        •      19:49 Touch and go
        •      22:45 Draft confusion
        •      26:09 Battlefield evolution
        •      30:42 Countermeasures
        •      34:33 Washington’s tepid support
        •      38:11 Possible futures 
        •      40:26 Trump

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    • 45 min
    Ep 118: Michael Doran on Is Hamas Winning?

    Ep 118: Michael Doran on Is Hamas Winning?

    Michael Doran, Senior Fellow and Director of the Center for Peace and Security in the Middle East at the Hudson Institute and co-host of the podcast Counterbalance, joins the show to talk about the Israel-Hamas war and the broader regional competition with Iran.
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        •      02:04 Introduction 
        •      04:01 Is Hamas winning?
        •      10:29 Fighting the clocks
        •      13:10 Defeat from the jaws of victory 
        •      18:24 An Iranian-American conflict
        •      22:44 Managing decline 
        •      26:40 Lessons not learned
        •      33:00 The Iranian nuclear umbrella

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    • 36 min
    Ep 117: Shlomo Brody on the Ethics of War

    Ep 117: Shlomo Brody on the Ethics of War

    Rabbi Shlomo Brody, executive director of Ematai and author of Ethics of Our Fighters: A Jewish View on War and Morality, joins the show to talk about the ongoing war between Israel and Hamas and the Jewish tradition of military ethics.
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        •      01:28 Introduction 
        •      04:04 Just war
        •      07:27 The Bible as a framework
        •      13:34 International service 
        •      18:33 Reprisals
        •      21:37 Purity of arms 
        •      27:09 Collateral damage
        •      33:41 International law
        •      35:48 Proportionality 
        •      39:40 A dangerous ideology  

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    • 45 min
    Ep 116: David Stahel on Guderian and Hitler’s Panzer Generals

    Ep 116: David Stahel on Guderian and Hitler’s Panzer Generals

    David Stahel, associate professor of history at the University of New South Wales and author of Hitler's Panzer Generals: Guderian, Hoepner, Reinhardt and Schmidt Unguarded, joins the show to talk about Heinz Guderian, the myth and the man.
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        •      01:38 Introduction 
        •      02:57 Diving into the letters
        •      08:43 Debunking
        •      15:30 A sinister figure  
        •      19:39 Achtung - Panzer!  
        •      27:37 Guderian the Nazi 
        •      33:42 Poland and France 
        •      45:49 Russia  
        •      50:50 Barbarossa bound to fail?
        •      54:48 Guderian the chameleon   

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    Ep 115: Stephen Robinson on the Case against John Boyd

    Ep 115: Stephen Robinson on the Case against John Boyd

    Stephen Robinson, author of The Blind Strategist: John Boyd and the American Art of War, joins the show to talk about Boyd, the man who developed the concept of “maneuver warfare,” and what Boyd may have gotten wrong.
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        •      01:21 Introduction 
        •      02:24 “A genuine polymath”
        •      04:20 The OODA Loop
        •      07:39 J.F.C. Fuller and B.H. Liddell Hart  
        •      13:28 The conventional blitzkrieg  
        •      19:26 Maneuver warfare 
        •      25:01 Cannae 
        •      29:07 Tactical success to operational failure  
        •      34:07 Post-Vietnam U.S. military woes
        •      37:24 Active defense   
        •      43:31 Skeptical of technology
        •      48:07 The Defense Reform Movement   
        •      53:50 Iraqi Freedom

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    • 56 min

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