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These are the stories of 45 men and women interviewed as part of an oral history archive documenting the development and evolution of public policies to advance sustainable and organic agriculture going back to the 1970s.

These are among the key leaders and advocates who played significant roles in devising and promoting the laws and government programs that continue to undergird efforts to achieve a sustainable farming and food system in the U.S.

Episodes of this limited podcast series are also available as video recordings and transcripts at http://www.cfra.org/SustainableAgPodcast.

Sustainable Agriculture Policy with Ron Kroese Center for Rural Affairs

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These are the stories of 45 men and women interviewed as part of an oral history archive documenting the development and evolution of public policies to advance sustainable and organic agriculture going back to the 1970s.

These are among the key leaders and advocates who played significant roles in devising and promoting the laws and government programs that continue to undergird efforts to achieve a sustainable farming and food system in the U.S.

Episodes of this limited podcast series are also available as video recordings and transcripts at http://www.cfra.org/SustainableAgPodcast.

    38. 1980s Farm Crisis, Roundtable #3

    38. 1980s Farm Crisis, Roundtable #3

    In the final episode of our limited series podcast, our host Ron Kroese moderates a discussion on the 1980s farm crisis.

    This is a continuation of the roundtable discussion from the last two episodes. Each individual played an important role in the work of National Sustainable Agriculture Coalition (NSAC) and its predecessor efforts.

    During the first week, we focused on the formation, development, and accomplishments of NSAC over the past three decades, through 5 farm bills and 27 appropriation bills. Last week, we focused on successes, challenges, and took a deeper look at the organization. This week, participants also share stories about those who made an impact on sustainable agriculture policy along the way.

    Discussion participants and their positions and locations at the time of the interview include:


    Fred Kirschenmann: affiliated with the Leopold Center for Sustainable Agriculture at Iowa State University, and also the Stone Barn Center for Food and Agriculture in New York. Lives in Ames, Iowa.
    Ann Robinson: Midwest regional office director for the National Center for Appropriate Technology. Located in Des Moines, Iowa.
    Michael Sligh: with the Rural Advancement Foundation International in Pittsboro, North Carolina.
    Chuck Hassebrook: Formerly with the Center for Rural Affairs in Nebraska.
    Mary Fund: with the Kansas Rural Center and also a certified organic farmer.
    Ferd Hoefner: policy director for the National Sustainable Agriculture Coalition in Washington, D.C.
    Margaret Krome: policy director for the Michael Fields Agricultural Institute in East Troy, Wisconsin.
    Frances Thicke: farmer from southeast Iowa. Owns and operates an organic dairy farm, processes milk on the farm and markets it all locally.
    Amy Little: policy director for the Northeast Sustainable Agriculture Working Group.
    Duane Sand: on the staff of Iowa Natural Heritage Foundation, Des Moines, Iowa.
    Teresa Opheim: with Practical Farmers of Iowa. Located in Ames, Iowa.
    Duane Havorka: executive director of the Nebraska Wildlife Federation. Lives near Elmwood, Nebraska.

    The roundtable was conducted on Aug. 2, 2015.

    Link this episode:

    National Sustainable Agriculture Oral History Archive (video link)

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    37. Successes and Challenges, Roundtable #2

    37. Successes and Challenges, Roundtable #2

    This week, we focus on successes, challenges, and take a deeper look at the National Sustainable Agriculture Coalition (NSAC). This is the second of three episodes of a roundtable discussion moderated by host Ron Kroese.

    Next week, we’ll talk about the 1980s farm crisis and share stories about those who made an impact on sustainable agriculture policy along the way. Last week, we focused on the formation, development, and accomplishments of NSAC over the past three decades, through 5 farm bills and 27 appropriation bills.

    Each individual played an important role in the work of NSAC and its predecessor efforts. Discussion participants and their positions and locations at the time of the interview include:


    Fred Kirschenmann: affiliated with the Leopold Center for Sustainable Agriculture at Iowa State University, and also the Stone Barn Center for Food and Agriculture in New York. Lives in Ames, Iowa.
    Ann Robinson: Midwest regional office director for the National Center for Appropriate Technology. Located in Des Moines, Iowa.
    Michael Sligh: with the Rural Advancement Foundation International in Pittsboro, North Carolina.
    Chuck Hassebrook: Formerly with the Center for Rural Affairs in Nebraska.
    Mary Fund: with the Kansas Rural Center and also a certified organic farmer.
    Ferd Hoefner: policy director for the National Sustainable Agriculture Coalition in Washington, D.C.
    Margaret Krome: policy director for the Michael Fields Agricultural Institute in East Troy, Wisconsin.
    Frances Thicke: farmer from southeast Iowa. Owns and operates an organic dairy farm, processes milk on the farm and markets it all locally.
    Amy Little: policy director for the Northeast Sustainable Agriculture Working Group.
    Duane Sand: on the staff of Iowa Natural Heritage Foundation, Des Moines, Iowa.
    Teresa Opheim: with Practical Farmers of Iowa. Located in Ames, Iowa.
    Duane Havorka: executive director of the Nebraska Wildlife Federation. Lives near Elmwood, Nebraska.

    The roundtable was conducted on Aug. 2, 2015.

    Link this episode:

    National Sustainable Agriculture Oral History Archive (video link)

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    36. Formation of NSAC, Roundtable #1

    36. Formation of NSAC, Roundtable #1

    In the final three episodes of our limited series podcast, our host Ron Kroese moderates a discussion. Each individual played an important role in the work of National Sustainable Agriculture Coalition (NSAC) and its predecessor efforts.

    This week, we focus on the formation, development, and accomplishments of NSAC over the past three decades, through 5 farm bills and 27 appropriation bills. Next week, we’ll focus on successes, challenges, and take a deeper look at the organization. In the final week, we’ll talk about the 1980s farm crisis and share stories about those who made an impact on sustainable agriculture policy along the way.

    Discussion participants and their positions and locations at the time of the interview include:


    Fred Kirschenmann: affiliated with the Leopold Center for Sustainable Agriculture at Iowa State University, and also the Stone Barn Center for Food and Agriculture in New York. Lives in Ames, Iowa.
    Ann Robinson: Midwest regional office director for the National Center for Appropriate Technology. Located in Des Moines, Iowa.
    Michael Sligh: with the Rural Advancement Foundation International in Pittsboro, North Carolina.
    Chuck Hassebrook: Formerly with the Center for Rural Affairs in Nebraska.
    Mary Fund: with the Kansas Rural Center and also a certified organic farmer.
    Ferd Hoefner: policy director for the National Sustainable Agriculture Coalition in Washington, D.C.
    Margaret Krome: policy director for the Michael Fields Agricultural Institute in East Troy, Wisconsin.
    Frances Thicke: farmer from southeast Iowa. Owns and operates an organic dairy farm, processes milk on the farm and markets it all locally.
    Amy Little: policy director for the Northeast Sustainable Agriculture Working Group.
    Duane Sand: on the staff of Iowa Natural Heritage Foundation, Des Moines, Iowa.
    Teresa Opheim: with Practical Farmers of Iowa. Located in Ames, Iowa.
    Duane Havorka: executive director of the Nebraska Wildlife Federation. Lives near Elmwood, Nebraska.

    The roundtable was conducted on Aug. 2, 2015.

    Links this episode:

    National Sustainable Agriculture Oral History Archive (video link)

    “A Time to Choose: Summary Report on the Structure of Agriculture”

    "Report and Recommendations on Organic Farming"

    “The Unsettling of America: Culture and Agriculture” by Wendell Berry

    “Who Will Sit Up With the Corporate Sow?”

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    35. Joyce Ford & Jim Riddle, long-time organic farmers

    35. Joyce Ford & Jim Riddle, long-time organic farmers

    Joyce E. Ford and Jim Riddle have worked tirelessly on organic agriculture policy in the state of Minnesota, nationally, and internationally.

    This week, Ron Kroese talks with the long-time organic farmers and sustainable farming advocates from Winona, Minnesota, who share their numerous accomplishments, stories of colleagues they’ve worked with throughout the years, how they got started in the organic field, and what’s next for organics.

    For more than 30 years, Jim has been an organic farmer, gardener, inspector, educator, policy analyst, author, and avid organic eater. Joyce started her career as an organic vegetable farmer in the 1970s.

    The couple helped organize the Winona Farmers Market, where Jim was a founding chair of the Winona Farmers Market Association.

    Joyce and Jim also helped start the International Organic Inspectors Association (IOIA). In that capacity, they co-authored the IOIA inspector curriculum manuals, and co-developed IOIA’s inspector training program and projects such as organic system plans and record keeping templates for organic certification. Joyce has trained organic inspectors for the IOIA and was the first inspector to monitor pipeline construction on organic farms, enforcing Minnesota Agricultural Impact Mitigation Plan’s Organic Appendix. She served as IOIA’s Ethics Committee chair for many years.

    Jim served as chair of the Minnesota Department of Agriculture’s Organic Advisory Task Force and was instrumental in passage of Minnesota’s landmark organic certification cost-share program, which now is a farm bill program that provides 75% reimbursement for organic certification costs nationwide.

    In addition, Jim worked for the University of Minnesota as Organic Outreach Coordinator and as Organic Research Grants Coordinator for Ceres Trust. He served on the Leadership Team for eOrganic, the national Extension Community of Practice for organic agriculture and on the Citizens Board of the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency. He was the steering committee chair for the Organic Farmers Association when it was newly formed in 2016.

    Jim is former chair of the USDA National Organic Standards Board and a leading voice for organic agriculture.

    Joyce co-authored the Organic Trade Association Good Organic Retailing Practices (GORP), and the certification chapter in Organic Dairy Farming published by the Midwest Organic and Sustainable Education Service (MOSES). Joyce served on the MOSES board of directors for 6 years. More recently, she served 3 years on the Steering Committee to develop a Healthy Food Charter for Minnesota and volunteered to assist Winona County in developing a county Food Charter, a policy action plan to help get healthy foods accessible.

    Joyce has worked for the International Organic Accreditation Service (IOAS) and has served on its Accreditation Committee that administers accreditation for organic certification and other sustainable labels.

    In 2013, Joyce and Jim were awarded EcoFarm’s Stewards of Sustainable Agriculture. They currently operate Blue Fruit Farm, a certified organic perennial fruit farm, where they grow blueberries, black currants, elderberries, aronia berries, honeyberries, and more.

    The interview was conducted on Feb. 14, 2018.

    Additional links this episode:

    National Sustainable Agriculture Oral History Archive (video link)

    Organic Farmers Association

    International Organic Inspectors Association

    Winona Farmers Market

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    34. Bob Bergland, Secretary of Agriculture 1977-1981

    34. Bob Bergland, Secretary of Agriculture 1977-1981

    Bob Bergland’s vision and leadership led to the government’s first initiative in organic and sustainable agriculture.

    This week, our host Ron talks with Bob about his several decades of public service, with the interview focusing primarily on four studies. This was recorded in 2017, one year before Bob passed away.

    Robert (Bob) Bergland was born on July 22, 1928, on a farm near Roseau, Minnesota. He lived in the community until he passed away in December 2018 at the age of 90.

    In 1963, he went to work for the Agricultural Stabilization and Conservation Service, first at the state level in Minnesota, and later in Washington, D.C.

    In 1970, he was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives, serving three terms from 1971 to 1977 as a member of the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party. In Congress, he served on the House Committee on Agriculture's subcommittees for Conservation and Credit, and Livestock, Grains, Dairy, and Poultry.

    In 1977, shortly after beginning a fourth term in the House, he was appointed Secretary of Agriculture by President Jimmy Carter and served in that role from Jan. 23, 1977, to Jan. 20, 1981. During his tenure, he commissioned a major report examining the structure of American agriculture, "A Time to Choose," and the first USDA study on organic farming, "Report and Recommendations on Organic Farming."

    At the end of President Carter's administration, he was named vice president and general manager of the National Rural Electric Cooperative Association.

    After retiring in 1994, he was elected by the Minnesota State Legislature to a term on the University of Minnesota Board of Regents.

    The interview was conducted on March 7, 2017.

    Links this episode:

    National Sustainable Agriculture Oral History Archive (video link)

    “A Time to Choose: Summary Report on the Structure of Agriculture”

    "Report and Recommendations on Organic Farming"

    “The Unsettling of America: Culture and Agriculture” by Wendell Berry

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    • 51 min
    33. Elizabeth Henderson, trailblazing CSA farmer

    33. Elizabeth Henderson, trailblazing CSA farmer

    Elizabeth Henderson was raised by people concerned with peace and justice, which shaped her life path.

    This week, Elizabeth sits down with our host, Ron, and talks about community-supported agriculture (CSAs), organic ag, and food justice.

    She is a long-time activist for local and national policies and programs to advance socially and economically just sustainable agriculture—both in the US and abroad. She may be most known for helping shape the landmark organic food policy act of 1990, but tells us about much more.

    Elizabeth farmed at Peacework Farm in Wayne County, New York, producing organically grown vegetables for the fresh market for more than 30 years.

    She is a member of the Board of Directors of the Northeast Organic Farming Association of New York (NOFA-NY), co-chairs the Policy Committee, and represents the NOFA Interstate Council on the Board of the Agricultural Justice Project.

    For 20 years, from 1993 to 2013, she chaired the Agricultural Development Board in Wayne County and took an active role in creating the Farming and Farmland Protection Plan for the county.

    In 2001, the organic industry honored her with one of the first “Spirit of Organic” awards, in 2007, Abundance Co-op honored her with the “Cooperating for Communities” award, and in 2009, NOFA-NY honored her with a Lifetime Achievement Award and then a Golden Carrot in 2013. In 2014, Eco-Farm presented her with their Advocate of Social Justice Award, the “Justie.”

    Her writings on organic agriculture appear in The Natural Farmer and other publications, she is the lead author of Sharing the Harvest: A Citizen’s Guide to Community Supported Agriculture (Chelsea Green, 2007), with a Spanish language e-book edition in 2017, and co-authored Whole Farm Planning: Ecological Imperatives, Personal Values and Economics with farmer Karl North (2004).

    She also wrote A Food Book for a Sustainable Harvest for the members of Peacework Organic Community Supported Agriculture (aka GVOCSA) in its 29th year in 2017.

    The interview was conducted on Dec. 14, 2017.

    Links this episode:

    National Sustainable Agriculture Oral History Archive (video link)

    “Sharing the Harvest: A Citizen’s Guide to Community Supported Agriculture”

    “Whole Farm Planning: Ecological Imperatives, Personal Values and Economics”

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    • 57 min

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