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Airline Weekly Lounge Podcast

The editors of Airline Weekly discuss the most interesting developments within the commercial airline industry. In keeping with Airline Weekly’s style, conversation generally centers on one question: How do you make money in this industry? 

  1. Is Southwest Airlines Losing its Magic?

    1 DAY AGO

    Is Southwest Airlines Losing its Magic?

    In this week's episode, Gordon Smith is joined by Airline Weekly's Jay Shabat and Skift airlines reporter Meghna Maharishi. Part one is focused on the big picture trends as U.S. earnings season draws to a close. In part two, the trio discuss the first involuntary layoffs in Southwest history and assess their wider impact on the airline.  Read the latest issue of Airline Weekly. Takeaways The US airline industry saw a collective operating profit margin of 9% in Q4. Southwest Airlines announced layoffs affecting 15% of its corporate workforce. Premium travel and international routes are driving growth for major carriers. JetBlue faced challenges with disappointing earnings despite strategic changes. Fuel prices significantly influenced airline earnings in Q4. Corporate travel demand is rebounding, benefiting major airlines. Southwest's layoffs mark a significant shift in its corporate culture. The performance of low-cost carriers varied, with some showing signs of recovery. Spirit Airlines' bankruptcy raises concerns for the low-cost segment. The airline industry is navigating a complex landscape of cost inflation and demand recovery. Chapters 00:00 Q4 Earnings Overview 13:02 Southwest Airlines Layoffs Discussion Connect with Airline Weekly LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/airline-weekly/ X: https://x.com/Airline_Weekly/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/airlineweekly/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Subscribe to @SkiftNews and never miss an update from the airline and travel industries.

    36 min
  2. Breaking Down Japan Airlines and British Airways

    13 FEB

    Breaking Down Japan Airlines and British Airways

    In this episode of the Airline Weekly Lounge, hosts Gordon Smith and Jay Shabat delve into the current state of Japan Airlines and British Airways. They explore Japan Airlines' historical performance, recent financial trends, and the challenges it faces in a competitive market. The discussion then shifts to British Airways' recent changes to its loyalty program, which have sparked significant public reaction. The hosts analyze the implications of these changes and the competitive landscape between British Airways and Virgin Atlantic, concluding with insights into the future of both airlines. Read the latest issue of Airline Weekly. Takeaways Japan Airlines has experienced a decline in operating margins over the years. The airline's profitability peaked in 2012, making it the most profitable airline globally at that time. The Hawaii-Japan market was a significant revenue source for JAL, which has diminished post-pandemic. North America has become a strong market for Japan Airlines, contributing to its recent performance. British Airways is transitioning to a revenue-based loyalty program, moving away from distance-based rewards. The announcement of BA's loyalty changes has led to public uproar and dissatisfaction among frequent flyers. Virgin Atlantic is capitalizing on the dissatisfaction with BA's loyalty program changes. The competitive landscape between British Airways and Virgin Atlantic is intensifying due to these changes. JAL is showing signs of potential recovery, with hopes for improved margins in the future. The airline industry is evolving, with more airlines likely to adopt revenue-based loyalty systems. Connect with Airline Weekly LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/airline-weekly/ X: https://x.com/Airline_Weekly/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/airlineweekly/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Subscribe to @SkiftNews and never miss an update from the airline and travel industries.

    38 min
  3. What a Frontier-Spirit Merger Means for Air Travel

    8 FEB

    What a Frontier-Spirit Merger Means for Air Travel

    In this episode of the Airline Weekly Lounge, hosts Gordon Smith and Jay Shabat delve into the potential merger between Frontier Airlines and Spirit Airlines. They discuss the historical context of their relationship, the current status of Spirit's bankruptcy, and Frontier's renewed offer. The conversation explores the implications of a merger, including potential synergies and market power, while also addressing the challenges faced by low-cost carriers in the current economic climate. Additionally, they touch on rumors surrounding United Airlines and JetBlue, providing insights into the broader landscape of airline mergers and acquisitions. Takeaways The potential merger between Frontier and Spirit could reshape the U.S. airline industry. Spirit's bankruptcy is a unique case, focusing on debt reduction rather than traditional restructuring. Frontier's recent offer to Spirit was deemed insufficient by Spirit's management. Airline mergers historically have a strong track record of success in the U.S. The current economic climate poses significant challenges for low-cost carriers like Frontier and Spirit. Market power and synergies are key motivations behind airline mergers. The upcoming bankruptcy court hearing for Spirit is a critical moment for negotiations. United Airlines has publicly denied any merger discussions with other airlines. JetBlue is exploring partnerships with multiple carriers, indicating a dynamic market. The earnings season reveals varying performance among major airlines, highlighting industry trends. Connect with Airline Weekly LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/airline-weekly/ X: https://x.com/Airline_Weekly/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/airlineweekly/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Subscribe to @SkiftNews and never miss an update from the airline and travel industries.

    34 min

  4. 31 JAN

    Breeze Airways' Big Break: A ULCC Finally Profits

    Note: This episode was recorded prior to the American Eagle collision with a military helicopter on January 29, 2025. In this episode of the Airline Weekly Lounge, hosts Jay Shabat and Meghna Maharishi analyze the financial performance and strategic direction of American Airlines and Breeze Airways. American Airlines, despite improving its operating margin to 8% in Q4 2024, continues to lag behind United and Delta, facing challenges with international growth, fleet limitations, and regional jet reliance. Meanwhile, Breeze Airways, a young ultra-low-cost carrier, has reported its first profitable quarter, leveraging a premium product strategy and expansion into underserved markets. The discussion highlights American’s struggles to compete globally and Breeze’s progress toward sustainability in the low-cost space. With key insights on fleet choices, network expansion, and industry trends, this episode offers a compelling look into the evolving U.S. airline landscape. Seven Key Takeaways: American Airlines' Q4 2024 operating margin improved to 8%, but it still trails Delta (12%) and United (11%). American's transatlantic capacity has shrunk by 5% since 2019, while competitors United and Delta expanded aggressively in this market. Fleet challenges, including retired widebody aircraft and delayed Boeing 787 deliveries, have hurt American’s international growth. American remains heavily domestic-focused, relying on regional jets, whereas United is investing in larger aircraft for efficiency. Breeze Airways, founded in 2021, has reported its first profitable quarter, signaling potential stability in the ultra-low-cost carrier market. Breeze differentiates itself with premium seating options and underserved market routes, positioning it ahead of competitors like Spirit and Frontier in customer experience. Charleston, SC, is Breeze’s busiest airport, while Florida remains central to its network strategy, highlighting its focus on leisure travel. Connect with Airline Weekly LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/airline-weekly/ X: https://x.com/Airline_Weekly/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/airlineweekly/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Subscribe to @SkiftNews and never miss an update from the airline and travel industries.

    26 min

  5. 24 JAN

    Setting the Scene for a Brazilian Airline Mega-Merger

    In this episode of the Airline Weekly Lounge, hosts Gordon Smith and Jay Shabbat discuss significant developments in the airline industry, focusing on a potential mega merger in Brazil involving Azul and Gol, and the acquisition of ITA Airways by the Lufthansa Group. They explore the implications of these mergers on competition, market dynamics, and the challenges faced by low-cost carriers in South America. The conversation also delves into the historical context of airline operations in Italy and the strategic positioning of Lufthansa in the European market. Connect with Airline Weekly LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/airline-weekly/ X: https://x.com/Airline_Weekly/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/airlineweekly/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Subscribe to @SkiftNews and never miss an update from the airline and travel industries.

    39 min
  6. Why Egypt Is an Airline Market Worth Watching

    17 JAN

    Why Egypt Is an Airline Market Worth Watching

    In this episode, Gordon and Jay discuss the current state of the Egyptian aviation scene, highlighting the booming tourism sector despite regional unrest. They explore the factors contributing to Egypt's tourism success, including its geographical advantages, affordability, and the influx of Russian tourists. The conversation then shifts to European air capacity trends, examining the disparities in growth among various countries and the impact of economic conditions on the airline industry. Takeaways Egypt's tourism sector welcomed 15.7 million visitors last year, an all-time high. Geopolitically, Egypt is well-positioned as a crossroads for tourism. The devaluation of the Egyptian pound has made travel to Egypt more affordable for Europeans. Russian tourists have significantly increased their visits to Egypt since the Ukraine conflict. Egypt Air faces challenges competing with international airlines but plays a crucial role in tourism. The majority of visitors to Egypt travel on package tours, indicating a strong market for tour operators. Egypt's government is recognizing the importance of tourism and investing in infrastructure. European air capacity trends show significant growth in Eastern Europe, particularly in the Balkans. Turkey's growth in air traffic is primarily driven by connecting flights through Istanbul. Albania is emerging as a cost-effective alternative to traditional European destinations. Connect with Airline Weekly LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/airline-weekly/ X: https://x.com/Airline_Weekly/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/airlineweekly/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Subscribe to @SkiftNews and never miss an update from the airline and travel industries.

    32 min
  7. The U.S. Airlines Growing and Shrinking in 2025

    10 JAN

    The U.S. Airlines Growing and Shrinking in 2025

    Gordon Smith and Jay Shabat crunch the big numbers to reveal which U.S. carriers are in expansion mode in the first quarter of 2025 and which operators are shrinking year-on-year.  Takeaways The US airline industry is seeing a modest capacity increase of 1% for Q1 2025. Delta Airlines is focusing growth on mid-continent hubs like Atlanta and Minneapolis. United Airlines is experiencing the fastest growth among major carriers, with a 5% increase in capacity. American Airlines is slowing down growth, particularly at major hubs like LAX and JFK. Southwest Airlines is reducing capacity by 4% as part of a strategy to return to profitability. Alaska Airlines is growing modestly at 2%, focusing on secondary markets. JetBlue is shrinking overall by 3%, with significant cuts in Los Angeles and Newark. Spirit Airlines is undergoing restructuring due to bankruptcy, leading to drastic capacity cuts. Frontier Airlines is capitalizing on Spirit's struggles, with a 9% increase in capacity. The competitive landscape is shifting, with low-cost carriers facing challenges while major airlines adapt to market demands. Connect with Airline Weekly LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/airline-weekly/ X: https://x.com/Airline_Weekly/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/airlineweekly/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Subscribe to @SkiftNews and never miss an update from the airline and travel industries.

    32 min

  8. 2 JAN

    What Does 2025 Mean for the Airline Industry?

    In this week’s episode, Gordon Smith and Jay Shabat turn their attention to the year ahead. Going region-by-region, the pair share the emerging stories that are on their radar for 2025 and beyond.  Connect with Airline Weekly LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/airline-weekly/ X: https://x.com/Airline_Weekly/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/airlineweekly/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/ WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/ Subscribe to @SkiftNews and never miss an update from the airline and travel industries.

    31 min
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The editors of Airline Weekly discuss the most interesting developments within the commercial airline industry. In keeping with Airline Weekly’s style, conversation generally centers on one question: How do you make money in this industry? 

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