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Introduction to Bowen Family Systems Theory

  1. 5 DAYS AGO

    S3 Ep10 Divorce with Dr. Carrie Collier

    Welcome to Elevator Systems! Today’s episode discusses divorce from a Bowen family systems theory perspective. Dr. Carrie Collier is back thinking alongside hosts Dixie Vandersluys and Katie White. Dr. Carrie Collier is a researcher, lecturer and family therapist specializing in Bowen family systems theory. She earned her PhD in Counsellor Education and has over 25 years of study and practice as a Licensed Professional Counsellor. She is on the faculty of The Bowen Center where she serves on the Board of Directors and was Director for two years. She published and validated a Family Unit Functioning Questionnaire used by therapists and researchers to gather information about families. Her most recent research on the language of nature in Murray Bowen's archival papers can be found in The Australian and New Zealand Journal of Family Therapy. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The usefulness of knowing family history and family patterns of functioning in marriage and divorce and how divorce can intensify patterns.Understanding one's role in the family and how divorce can be an opportunity for personal growth and redefining relationships within the family system.How the intensity of emotional fusion in a marriage can mirror the intensity of separation during divorce.The resource of a coach or therapist for individuals to think through their functioning in the family.Family leaders who maintain open communication, clear thinking and connections with both parties in a divorce can positively influence the broader family system. This episode is recommended for people and professionals who are navigating divorce. Terms you don’t understand? We have episodes on all 8 concepts of Bowen theory and other ideas in Elevator Systems Seasons 1 & 2. Recommended Resources: The Murray Bowen Archives Project Dr. Murray Bowen: Family Therapy in Clinical PracticeMonica McGoldrick & Betty Carter: The Family Life CycleRoberta Gilbert: Extraordinary RelationshipsEdward Beal: “Child-Focused Divorce” in Clinical Applications of Bowen Family Systems Theory (Ed. Peter Titelman)Family Matters: Divorce and Adult ChildrenDr. Carrie Collier: The Language of Nature in Murray Bowen’s Writings New podcast episodes released every Tuesday this season—stay tuned as we explore relationships across the lifespan!  Subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts so you don’t miss a weekly release. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and comment. Living Systems Counselling and Training provides educational material for those interested in learning more about Bowen family systems theory: https://livingsystems.ca Living Systems Hybrid Conference: October 17–18, 2025 Conference theme: Aging—Individual Challenge or Family Opportunity? Learn more: https://livingsystems.ca/education/conferences/fall-2025-conference-on-aging/ Key Topics:#BowenFamilySystems #LivingSystems #MurrayBowen #Therapy #SystemsThinking #Family #Marriage #Remarriage #Divorce #BlendedFamily #Stepfamily #Partner #Conflict #Mediation #Separation #FamilyChallenges #Challenges #Complexity #TherapyPodcast #Anxiety #Intensity #Patterns #MentalHealth #Relationships #DifferentiationOfSelf #Differentiation #BowenTheory #ElevatorSystems #FamilySystemsTheory #ElevatorSystemsPodcast #MurrayBowenArchives #TMBAP #TheMurrayBowenArchivesProject DISCLAIMER: This podcast is general information about Bowen family systems theory and is not considered the practice of counselling or therapy.  The information presented are the views of the people who say them. Any information used from this podcast is used at your own risk

    38 min

  2. 2 SEPT

    S3 Ep9 Kids with Challenges with Devana Weiss

    Welcome to Elevator Systems! In this episode we are looking at a Bowen family systems theory perspective on relationships with kids with challenges. Joining hosts Dixie Vandersluys and Katie White is fellow Living Systems colleague Devana Weiss who brings personal and professional experience to this topic. Devana Weiss is a licensed counsellor in private practise, a clinical supervisor, and a faculty member with Living Systems. She has been studying and practicing Bowen family systems theory for almost 20 years. She is married and a mother to three children, one of whom has developmental disabilities. She has lived experience navigating the medical and school systems and enjoys assisting parents and caregivers who face similar challenges.  What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The impact that worry has on a child with challenges and their relationshipsThe importance of recognizing what is within one’s control as a parent and responding with steadiness, clear thinking and guiding principles during tough timesThe pattern of over and under-functioning and how Bowen theory is useful for assessing facts and needs and what kind of help is helpfulThe role of siblings and the whole family system in managing challengeExamples include: an analogy from a garden, the movie CODA, dinner time struggles, and how parents and professionals can manage their own anxiety For any professional, family member, or friend in relationship with a child with a challenge, this episode offers a unique perspective on what it means to be a resource.  Terms you don’t understand? We have episodes on all 8 concepts of Bowen theory and other ideas in Elevator Systems Seasons 1 & 2. Recommended Resources: The Murray Bowen Archives Project Catherine M. Rakow: Making Sense of Human LifeDr. Michael E. Kerr: Bowen Theory’s Secrets (epilogue chapter)Parent Hope Project specific episodes: Being a LighthouseHow the Worry Cycle Plays Out in SchoolsSpecial Needs ChildrenCo-Regulation or Self-Regulation in Parenting New podcast episodes released every Tuesday this season—stay tuned as we explore relationships across the lifespan!  Subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts so you don’t miss a weekly release. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and comment. Living Systems Counselling and Training provides educational material for those interested in learning more about Bowen family systems theory: https://livingsystems.ca Living Systems Hybrid Conference: October 17–18, 2025 Conference theme: Aging—Individual Challenge or Family Opportunity? Learn more: https://livingsystems.ca/education/conferences/fall-2025-conference-on-aging/ Key Topics:#BowenFamilySystems #LivingSystems #MurrayBowen #Therapy #SystemsThinking #Family #Parenting #Parents #Children #Kids #KidswithChallenges #SpecialNeeds #Disability #Help #Inclusion #Challenges #Resources #Helpfulness #Worry #CODAmovie #TherapyPodcast #Neurotypical #Neurodivergent #Anxiety #MentalHealth #Relationships #DifferentiationOfSelf #Differentiation #BowenTheory #ElevatorSystems #FamilySystemsTheory #ElevatorSystemsPodcast #MurrayBowenArchives #TMBAP #TheMurrayBowenArchivesProject DISCLAIMER: This podcast is general information about Bowen family systems theory and is not considered the practice of counselling or therapy.  The information presented are the views of the people who say them. Any information used from this podcast is used at your own risk.

    36 min

  3. 26 AUG

    S3 Ep 8 Parenting with Lauren Errington

    Welcome to Elevator Systems! Today Lauren Errington joins hosts Dixie Vandersluys and Katie White as we think about parenting from a Bowen family systems perspective. Lauren Errington is the Executive Director of the Family Systems Institute in Sydney, Australia. She is also a Mental Health Social Worker and Clinical Family Therapist and Supervisor at the Family Systems Practice. She has written articles on the application of Bowen of theory in family therapy for multiple journals including co-authoring a soon to be published article for the Journal of Marital and Family Therapy. Lauren is married and a parent of three school-aged children. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: A parent’s effort to manage their own reactivity and provide kids developmental spaceDifferentiation of self, balancing individuality and togetherness, in parentingGetting clear on one’s own parenting beliefs and values amid the many perspectives and pressures in parenting todayHow viewing the family as a system can help parents manage challenges by understanding multi-generational patternsThe importance of humour and flexibility for parents to step back and see situations from a different perspectiveExamples: the humorous side of emotion coaching, the movie Parenthood, parenting in other species, and thinking through “taking off the training wheels” at different stages  This episode is for parents, anyone who works with parents, and anyone who has parents!  Terms you don’t understand? We have episodes on all 8 concepts of Bowen theory and other ideas in Elevator Systems Seasons 1 & 2. Recommended Resources: The Murray Bowen Archives Project Parent Hope Project podcast and resourcesDr Jenny Brown: Confident ParentingRoberta Gilbert: Extraordinary RelationshipsAustralian and New Zealand Journal of Family Therapy (Vol 45, Issue 2), Special Issue: Bowen Family Systems TheoryWhite, Errington and Ruggier, “Promoting Parent Agency Across the World through the Parent Hope Project: The Difference Bowen Family Systems Theory Makes”, Journal of Marital and Family Therapy - in revision.  New podcast episodes released every Tuesday this season—stay tuned as we explore relationships across the lifespan!  Subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts so you don’t miss a weekly release. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and comment. Living Systems Counselling and Training provides educational material for those interested in learning more about Bowen family systems theory: https://livingsystems.ca Living Systems Hybrid Conference: October 17–18, 2025 Conference theme: Aging—Individual Challenge or Family Opportunity? Learn more: https://livingsystems.ca/education/conferences/fall-2025-conference-on-aging/ Key Topics:#BowenFamilySystems #LivingSystems #MurrayBowen #Therapy #SystemsThinking #Family #Parenting #Parents #Parenthood #Children #Kids #ChildDevelopment #Development #Help #Resources #Helpfulness #Individuality #TherapyPodcast #Anxiety #MentalHealth #Relationships #DifferentiationOfSelf #Differentiation #BowenTheory #ElevatorSystems #FamilySystemsTheory #ElevatorSystemsPodcast #MurrayBowenArchives #TMBAP #TheMurrayBowenArchivesProject DISCLAIMER: This podcast is general information about Bowen family systems theory and is not considered the practice of counselling or therapy.  The information presented are the views of the people who say them. Any information used from this podcast is used at your own risk.

    39 min

  4. 19 AUG

    S3 Ep7 Marriage with Phil Klever

    Welcome to Elevator Systems! This episode looks at Bowen family systems theory and marriage. Joining Dixie Vandersluys and Katie White is Phil Klever who has spent over two decades doing research on married couples. Phil Klever has applied Bowen theory in his clinical practice and his personal life over most of his adult life. He has tested Bowen theory hypotheses in his longitudinal family research study. He is a member of Dr. Daniel Papero's postgraduate research seminar, the Bowen theory Journal Club, and the Bowen Center's Research Committee. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Observing fusion in marriage and the balance of being both a separate and connected person is central in maintaining maturity in marriageThe influence of the multi-generational family on marriage Thinking through relationship patterns: conflict, distance, triangles, and over and under-functioningKeeping a broad perspective of influences on marriageExamples: the classic approach/avoid pattern, a personal example of meeting the in-laws, and “The Story of Us”. Couples and counsellors alike will gain insights to how Bowen theory can inform one’s understanding of the marriage relationship. Terms you don’t understand? We have episodes on all 8 concepts of Bowen theory and other ideas in Elevator Systems Seasons 1 & 2. Recommended Resources: The Murray Bowen Archives Project Dr. Ronald Richardson: Family Ties that BindDr. Jenny Brown: Growing Yourself UpPeg Donley interview Donley, M (2016) “Bonding and Babies: The Evolution of Biparental Care and The Primary Triangle”, Family Systems, 12,1.Phil Klever Research: Chapters: 1998. “Marital Fusion and Differentiation.” In Titelman (Ed.) Clinical Applications of Bowen Family Systems Theory2003. “Marital Functioning and Multigenerational Fusion and Cutoff.” In Titelman (Ed.), Emotional Cutoff2008. “Triangles in Marriage.” In Titelman (Ed.), Triangles: Bowen Family Systems Theory Perspectives2014. “Applying Differentiation of Self in One’s Family.” In Titelman (Ed.), Differentiation of Self2020. “The Primary Triangle and Variation in Family Functioning.” In Keller and Noone (Ed.), Handbook of Bowen Family Systems Theory and Research Methods2020. “The Multigenerational Transmission of Family Unit Functioning.” In Keller and Noone (Ed.), Handbook of Bowen Family Systems Theory and Research Methods Articles: 2018. “Goal Effectiveness and Family Functioning.” The American Journal of Family Therapy 46: 195-2122021. “Divergent Spouse Functioning.” Family Systems 14: 103-130.2023. “Similarity in Spouse Functioning.” Family Systems 17.2: 139-1652025. “Child Focus and the Family Unit: A Comparison of Families with Lower and Higher Child Symptomology.” Family Systems 19, 2: 105-133. New podcast episodes released every Tuesday this season—stay tuned as we explore relationships across the lifespan!  Subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts so you don’t miss a weekly release. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and comment. Living Systems Counselling and Training provides educational material for those interested in learning more about Bowen family systems theory Living Systems Hybrid Conference: October 17–18, 2025 Conference theme: Aging—Individual Challenge or Family Opportunity? Learn more here Key Topics:#BowenFamilySystems #LivingSystems #MurrayBowen #Therapy #SystemsThinking #Family #Marriage #Couples #MarriageDynamics #FamilyofOrigin #FamilyHistory #MultiGenerational #TheStoryofUsMovie #TherapyPodcast #MentalHealth #Relationships #DifferentiationOfSelf #Differentiation #BowenTheory #ElevatorSystems #FamilySystemsTheory #ElevatorSystemsPodcast #MurrayBowenArchives #TMBAP #TheMurrayBowenArchivesProject DISCLAIMER: This podcast is general information about Bowen family systems theory and is not considered the practice of counselling or therapy.  The information presented are the views of the people who say them. Any information used from this podcast is used at your own risk.

    34 min

  5. 12 AUG

    S3 Ep6 Co-Workers with Jake Morrill

    Welcome to Elevator Systems! Today we are riding the elevator at our places of work. Jake Morrill joins hosts Dixie Vandersluys and Katie White to look at the many ways a Bowen family systems lens can be useful in the everyday, big and small situations and challenges of work life. Jake Morrill is the founder of Generation to Generation Leadership Coaching, which works with family businesses, congregations, and nonprofits. A longtime student of Bowen Theory, he’s on the faculty of the Bowen Center for the Study of the Family, where he’s one of the teachers of the course, “Differentiation at Work.”  What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Differentiation of self at work and the usefulness of a "this is me, who are you?” postureOver and under-functioning and finding balance in your role in work dynamics Professionalism vs. pseudo self and leading with personal integrity in the midst of external pressuresThe importance of one-to-one communication and open, curious conversationsDefining work roles while considering personal values and family commitmentsReal life examples from middle management, consulting in challenging situations, and finding a work/life balance For anyone at any level in the work world. This episode will offer insight into how work systems function and how to manage you!  Terms you don’t understand? We have episodes on all 8 concepts of Bowen theory and other ideas in Elevator Systems Seasons 1 & 2. Recommended Resources: The Murray Bowen Archives Project Dr. Murray Bowen: Family Therapy in Clinical Practice Jake Morrill: The Boundaries WorkbookLeslie Ann Fox & Katherine Gratwick-Baker: Leading a Business in Anxious TimesKathleen Smith: Everything Isn’t TerribleThe Anxious Achiever podcast: How Family Dynamics Play Out at WorkThe Anxious Achiever podcast: Is People Pleasing Hurting Your Career?Ruth Riley Sagar and Kathleen Klaus Wiseman, Ed: Understanding Organizations New podcast episodes released every Tuesday this season—stay tuned as we explore relationships across the lifespan!  Subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts so you don’t miss a weekly release. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and comment. Living Systems Counselling and Training provides educational material for those interested in learning more about Bowen family systems theory: https://livingsystems.ca Living Systems Hybrid Conference: October 17–18, 2025 Conference theme: Aging—Individual Challenge or Family Opportunity? Learn more: https://livingsystems.ca/education/conferences/fall-2025-conference-on-aging/ Key Topics:#BowenFamilySystems #LivingSystems #MurrayBowen #Therapy #SystemsThinking #Family #Work #Leadership #Management #Career #Boundaries #Balance #Triangles #Professional #TherapyPodcast #MentalHealth #Relationships #DifferentiationOfSelf #Differentiation #BowenTheory #ElevatorSystems #FamilySystemsTheory #ElevatorSystemsPodcast #MurrayBowenArchives #TMBAP #TheMurrayBowenArchivesProject DISCLAIMER: This podcast is general information about Bowen family systems theory and is not considered the practice of counselling or therapy.  The information presented are the views of the people who say them. Any information used from this podcast is used at your own risk.

    37 min

  6. 5 AUG

    S3 Ep5 Dating with Joe Berger

    Welcome to Elevator Systems! Therapist Joe Berger joins Dixie Vandersluys and Katie White to think about how Bowen family systems theory is useful in the dating world.  Joe Berger is a therapist who works with individuals, couples, and families and previously worked for several years in community mental health. He received a Masters in Social Work from the University of Vermont in 2012, and has completed two years of postgraduate training at the Bowen Center in Washington. He is currently a faculty member at the Vermont Center for Family Studies. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: A Bowen theory approach to dating emphasizes focusing on oneself rather than the other personBeing clear about one's goals and guidelines in dating helps maintain authenticity and self-awarenessThe influence of societal and familial expectations on dating behaviours and relationship choicesKeeping a sense of fun and curiosity is important in the dating process, alongside serious considerationsExamples shared from personal experience, clinical cases, and the entertainment world Counsellors, parents, and anyone navigating the dating world will find useful ideas for further thinking in this episode. Terms you don’t understand? We have episodes on all 8 concepts of Bowen theory and other ideas in Elevator Systems Seasons 1 & 2. Recommended Resources: The Murray Bowen Archives Project Dr. Jenny Brown: Growing Yourself UpDr Ronald Richardson: Jane Austen’s Guide to Good RelationshipsDr Kathleen Smith: Everything Isn’t TerribleAvrum Nadigel: Learning to CommitAvrum Nadigel: It Takes More than LoveEsther Perel: Mating in Captivity  New podcast episodes released every Tuesday this season—stay tuned as we explore relationships across the lifespan!  Subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts so you don’t miss a weekly release. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and comment. Living Systems Counselling and Training provides educational material for those interested in learning more about Bowen family systems theory: https://livingsystems.ca Living Systems Hybrid Conference: October 17–18, 2025 Conference theme: Aging—Individual Challenge or Family Opportunity? Learn more: https://livingsystems.ca/education/conferences/fall-2025-conference-on-aging/ Key Topics:#BowenFamilySystems #LivingSystems #MurrayBowen #Therapy #SystemsThinking #Family #Dating #Couples #AuthenticDating #RelationshipInsights #RelationshipGoals #Single #Love #Marriage #BeingLiked #Monogamy #Polyamory #Divorce #TherapyPodcast #MentalHealth #Relationships #DifferentiationOfSelf #Differentiation #BowenTheory #ElevatorSystems #FamilySystemsTheory #ElevatorSystemsPodcast #MurrayBowenArchives #TMBAP #TheMurrayBowenArchivesProject DISCLAIMER: This podcast is general information about Bowen family systems theory and is not considered the practice of counselling or therapy.  The information presented are the views of the people who say them. Any information used from this podcast is used at your own risk.

    33 min

  7. 29 JUL

    S3 Ep4 Adolescence with Avrum Nadigel

    Welcome to Elevator Systems! In this episode we delve into the complexities of adolescence through the lens of Bowen family systems theory. Join hosts Dixie Vandersluys and Katie White with guest Avrum Nadigel as they explore how understanding family dynamics can illuminate the challenges and opportunities of the teenage years.  Avrum Nadigel has been a marriage and family therapist for 25 years and has completed postgraduate training in Bowen family systems theory. He is the author of three book: “Learning to Commit”, “It Takes More than Love” and “Where Would you Like to Start: A Master Therapist on Beginning Psychotherapy with Families”. Avrum has co-produced two podcasts: “Pop Parenting” and “The Love Examined Playlist”. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Bowen family systems theory’s unique perspective on adolescence: thinking about a teenager within the broader context of the familyHow multi-generational processes and family history impact adolescent behavior and developmentThe concept of differentiation and how teens strive to form their own identities while balancing family expectation and outside influenceThe significant role parents play in their adolescent's developmentPractical advice for supporting growth, individuality and connection for the familyExamples include: every John Hughes movie, music, sports, peer pressure, and summer camp This episode is for professionals, parents, teens or anyone navigating this pivotal stage of life. Tune in to discover how systems thinking is useful in adolescence. Terms you don’t understand? We have episodes on all 8 concepts of Bowen theory and other ideas in Elevator Systems Seasons 1 & 2. Recommended Resources: The Murray Bowen Archives Project Family Matters, Surviving the Teen YearsAvrum Nadigel: Learning to CommitAvrum Nadigel: It Takes More than LoveAvrum Nadigel: Where Would you Like to Start: A Master Therapist on Beginning Psychotherapy with FamiliesDr. Ron Richardson: Family Ties that BindDr. Daniel J. Siegel: BrainstormDr. Kathleen Smith: True to You by New podcast episodes released every Tuesday this season—stay tuned as we explore relationships across the lifespan!  Subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts so you don’t miss a weekly release. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and comment. Living Systems Counselling and Training provides educational material for those interested in learning more about Bowen family systems theory: https://livingsystems.ca Living Systems Hybrid Conference: October 17–18, 2025 Conference theme: Aging—Individual Challenge or Family Opportunity? Learn more: https://livingsystems.ca/education/conferences/fall-2025-conference-on-aging/ Key Topics:#BowenFamilySystems #LivingSystems #MurrayBowen #Therapy #SystemsThinking #Family #Adolescence #Adolescents #Teens #Teenager #Growth #Development #PeerPressure #Expectations #JohnHughes #TheBreakfastClub #TherapyPodcast #MentalHealth #Relationships #DifferentiationOfSelf #Differentiation #BowenTheory #ElevatorSystems #FamilySystemsTheory #ElevatorSystemsPodcast #MurrayBowenArchives #TMBAP #TheMurrayBowenArchivesProject DISCLAIMER: This podcast is general information about Bowen family systems theory and is not considered the practice of counselling or therapy.  The information presented are the views of the people who say them. Any information used from this podcast is used at your own risk.

    38 min

  8. 22 JUL

    S3 Ep3 Pets with Kathleen Cotter Cauley

    Welcome to Elevator Systems! In Season 3 Episode 3 Kathleen Cotter Cauley joins Dixie Vandersluys and Katie White on the elevator to look at the role of pets in relationships — from cats and dogs to triangles and anxiety! Kathleen Cotter Cauley is a licensed marriage and family therapist and has a private practice in both Virginia and Florida. She’s a faculty member of the Bowen Center and was involved in founding the Florida Family Research Network. She has worked with guide dogs for over 30 years. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Viewing pets as active participants in the emotional fieldHow animals reflect family anxiety and calmThe concept of reciprocity in human-animal relationshipsThe four patterns of reactivity (conflict, distance, projection, triangles) observed in petsHow pet entries and exits impact family dynamicsExamples from guide dogs, breeders, and meet our own pets! Whether you're new to Bowen Theory or a long-time learner, this episode offers surprising, insightful ways to observe functioning through your pets, watch anxiety move, and deepen your understanding of family systems. Terms you don’t understand? We have episodes on all 8 concepts of Bowen theory and other ideas in Elevator Systems Seasons 1 & 2. Recommended Resources: The Murray Bowen Archives Project Alan Entin: Pets in the FamilyDr. Murray Bowen: Family Therapy in Clinical Practice Dr. Michael Kerr: “Family Systems Theory and Therapy” in A. Gurman & D. Kniskern (Eds.), Handbook of family therapy.  New podcast episodes released every Tuesday this season—stay tuned as we explore relationships across the lifespan!  Subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts so you don’t miss a weekly release. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and comment about what you’ve noticed in your own pet relationships. Living Systems Counselling and Training provides educational material for those interested in learning more about Bowen family systems theory: https://livingsystems.ca Living Systems Hybrid Conference: October 17–18, 2025 Conference theme: Aging—Individual Challenge or Family Opportunity? Learn more: https://livingsystems.ca/education/conferences/fall-2025-conference-on-aging/ Key Topics:#BowenFamilySystems #LivingSystems #MurrayBowen #Therapy #SystemsThinking #Family #PetsAndPeople #EmotionalSystems #AnxietyInFamilies #Reciprocity #Triangles #PetTherapy #DifferentiationOfSelf #GuideDogs #CatsAndDogs #EmotionalRegulation #TherapyPodcast #MentalHealth #EmotionalMaturity #Differentiation #Relationships #BowenTheory #FamilySystemsTheory #ElevatorSystemsPodcast #TherapyPodcast #MurrayBowenArchives #TMBAP #TheMurrayBowenArchivesProject DISCLAIMER: This podcast is general information about Bowen family systems theory and is not considered the practice of counselling or therapy.  The information presented are the views of the people who say them. Any information used from this podcast is used at your own risk.

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