The Octus Download

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The Octus Download delivers bold, unfiltered conversations that break down complex financial markets while connecting them to the world we actually live in. Hosted by Jason Sanjana & Kevin Eckhardt, this bi-weekly podcast cuts through the noise with insightful analysis, expert interviews, and just the right amount of personality. Each episode explores major trends in credit markets, dives deep into corporate finance, unpacks financial chaos, and examines how these developments impact both Wall Street and Main Street. But we don’t stop at the numbers we also explore the cultural forces shaping business decisions and the occasional bizarre intersections of finance with everyday life. Whether you’re tracking market movements, curious about investment strategies, or just want smart financial conversation with some pop culture thrown in, The Octus Download delivers market intelligence that’s both valuable and entertaining. Join us every other week as we connect the dots between money, markets, and modern life one episode at a time.

  1. 3天前

    EP 15 | Kawhi Leonard in Bankruptcy Court, Spirit on the Brink, and Disqualified Counsel Provisions

    Jason Sanjana and Kevin Eckhardt open in Los Angeles with the biggest sports bankruptcy crossover in years (02:58). NBA star Kawhi Leonard faces scrutiny over a $28 million endorsement deal with now bankrupt tree planting company Aspiration Partners (CTN Holdings). What began as a standard corporate restructuring has turned into a potential salary cap circumvention scandal involving the LA Clippers. The NBA has reopened its investigation and a Chapter 7 trustee now controls potential fraudulent transfer claims worth millions. From there (29:00) the conversation shifts to Spirit Airlines’ second bankruptcy filing in less than a year. Once considered a restructuring success story the discount carrier faces the same operational problems that plagued its first case including grounded aircraft, credit card processor demands, and revenue per passenger declining 9% year over year. Management’s bold Friday filing before Labor Day weekend signals desperation rather than strategy. Julian Bulaon, Head of Liability Management, joins (48:00) to discuss the rise of disqualified counsel provisions in credit agreements. These sponsor friendly clauses allow borrowers to veto lender counsel selections after deal closing, a concerning evolution in the ongoing battle between creditors and sponsors over liability management exercises. The culture close begins (57:00) with Netflix’s The Hunting Wives, a suburban Texas drama of lake houses, politics, and scandal. The episode wraps (01:06:00) with cannabis foreclosures as marijuana companies increasingly turn to Article 9 processes in the absence of bankruptcy protection. ----more---- Hosted by Jason Sanjana and Kevin Eckhardt Guest: Julian Bulaon Produced and edited by Tanya Hubbard

    1 小时 13 分钟

  2. 8月26日

    EP 14 | Uncle Nearest Fallout, Stoli Valuations, K-Pop Demons and Dad Core

    Jason Sanjana and Kevin Eckhardt open in Tennessee with Uncle Nearest Premium Whiskey's court-ordered receivership. What began as a celebrated brand story has turned into missing collateral, questionable accounting, and a Martha's Vineyard real estate controversy. Fawn Weaver faces accusations of overstating barrel inventory by $21 million, transferring assets improperly, and violating gag orders through Instagram posts. Patrick Mohan, whiskey correspondent, joins (04:12) to discuss how premium spirits brands navigate financial distress and whether Uncle Nearest can survive its founder's social media strategy. From there (21:27), the conversation shifts to Stoli's rare full-blown cram down fight against Fifth Third Bank. Once standard bankruptcy practice, dirt-for-debt scenarios have become extinct in modern Chapter 11 cases. Stoli wants to hand over Kentucky Owl bourbon inventory to satisfy secured debt, but the parties remain deadlocked on valuation after five days of confirmation hearings. The hosts debate whether Houston's debtor-friendly reputation can overcome fundamental secured creditor protections. This episode's unofficial sponsor (34:45), the Brazil-Miami Pipeline, makes its case. The tongue-in-cheek ad skewers cross-border restructuring complexity before Jason and Kevin pivot to Oi's unprecedented Chapter 15 termination request, weighing jurisdictional chaos against practical solutions. The show closes with Dad Core (36:37), where K-Pop Demon Hunters dominates Netflix streaming charts. The animated film's sincere treatment of Internet fandom culture sparks discussion about girl-dad dynamics and content that bridges generational gaps. The hosts reflect on modern parenting through pop culture that doesn't demonize social media engagement.     Hosted by Jason Sanjana & Kevin Eckhardt Guest: Patrick Mohan (Whiskey Correspondent) Produced and Edited by Tanya Hubbard A Production of The Octus Podcast Network

    49 分钟

  3. 8月13日

    EP 13 | Dolphins in Court, Vegas on the Edge, and the Mailman

    Jason Sanjana and Kevin Eckhardt open in Florida with the bankruptcy of the Miami Seaquarium, owned by Mexico-based The Dolphin Company. What began as a typical debt-fueled acquisition has spiraled into one of the most contentious Chapter 11 cases of the year. Former CEO Eduardo Albor is accused of obstructing the current management, withholding company records, defying court orders, and even engineering an armed standoff at corporate headquarters. The case now includes $10K daily sanctions, $3.3 million in damages claims, and a tug-of-war between U.S. bankruptcy court and Mexican civil proceedings. David Zubkis, Legal Analyst at Octus, joins (03:51) to break down the cross-border legal mess, asset sale hurdles, and the practical challenges of selling live animals under federal law. From there, the discussion shifts to Las Vegas (24:37) where the focus is on the collapse of its middle-market tourism base. With Canadian and Mexican travelers historically making up roughly 50% of international visits to Vegas, political tensions and rising costs have pushed that traffic into steep decline. Earnings from MGM Resorts and Caesars Entertainment show luxury properties like the Bellagio holding strong while mid-tier hotels struggle, and Station Casinos has pulled a $1.5 billion loan repricing amid soft demand. The hosts ask if the city is undergoing a temporary slump or if the era of affordable Vegas is gone for good. At (37:23) the episode’s unofficial sponsor takes the stage: Visit Las Vegas, the “tourism board” that insists the Strip is not empty, you are just poor. The tongue-in-cheek ad skewers airfare hikes, inflated room rates, and mortgage-sized table minimums before the conversation turns to The Sphere (38:36), the $2.3 billion, debt-heavy venue owned by Sphere Entertainment Co.. While some call it the best concert experience of their lives, others cite obstructed views, logistical headaches, and ticket prices that rival rent payments. The episode wraps with The Mailman segment (47:27), a Nextdoor saga where a new homeowner tried to stamp “Return to Sender” on a single addressed piece of junk mail marked for “Current Homeowner” instead of simply throwing it away. Their USPS carrier returned it with handwritten notes pointing out why that is not how mail works. Jason and Kevin side with the postal worker, question the legal citation the homeowner tried to use, and offer a reminder to pick your battles and be nice to the people delivering your mail. ----more---- Hosted by Jason Sanjana & Kevin Eckhardt Guest: David Zubkis (Legal Analyst, Octus) Produced and Edited by Tanya Hubbard A Production of The Octus Podcast Network

    56 分钟

  4. 8月13日

    EP 12 | Brightline Trains, Credit Scores & Coldplay Confusion

    This week, Jason Sanjana and Kevin Eckhardt dive into the financial and legal mess behind Brightline, the private high-speed rail system that’s taken on billions in debt while becoming the deadliest passenger train in America. They explore Fortress’s role, Florida’s rail history, and why local governments are now being asked to help foot the bill (00:36). Then it’s Buy Now Pay Later’s move into credit scoring (16:00), and the frustrating double standard between how consumers and companies are treated when it comes to debt. Why does using Klarna lower your score while corporate defaults are rewarded? And what happens when JPMorgan tries to become Klarna? Later, they break down the season finale of Stick on Apple TV (27:05), a golf series full of emotional rewiring, collapsed mentorship, and one last slow clap from Owen Wilson. Yes, there are caddie swaps. No, it doesn’t make sense. The episode closes with a cultural check-in on Coldplay, The Osbournes, and the confusing staying power of Hulk Hogan (37:33). Also: a fake ad for New Jersey Transit (25:15), the only rail system where speed is a vibe, not a commitment.----more---- Hosted by Jason Sanjana and Kevin Eckhardt Produced and Edited by Tanya Hubbard A Production of The Octus Podcast Network

    46 分钟

  5. 8月13日

    EP 11 | Del Monte in the Can, Consumer Spending’s Tapped & The IP Is Out of Ideas

    This week on The Octus Download, Jason and Kevin start with the bankruptcy of the week Del Monte (01:06) a 138-year-old brand now reduced to DIP fights Honorable Judge Michael B. Kaplan, and a TikTok-fueled wave of canned-fruit nostalgia. They unpack the LME-to-Chapter 11 pipeline and how the case became a referendum on DIP fees, minority lender fights, and the illusion of urgency in modern restructurings. Then Octus Head of Credit Research Mark Fischer joins to break down the latest consumer spending data (15:00) why people are buying one Labubo and nothing else, why couches and pet care are quietly collapsing, and how Amazon Prime Day became a showcase for dish soap over big-ticket goods. It’s a trade-down economy built on vibes and necessity and it’s showing up everywhere from cruise bookings to non-accrual rates in private credit. The episode closes with a look at Jurassic Park’s latest IP bloat (35:58), the emptiness of modern blockbusters, and why legacy franchises are just as tired as the consumers they’re trying to entertain. ----more---- Hosted by Jason Sanjana & Kevin Eckhardt Guest: Mark Fischer (Head of Credit Research, Octus) Produced and Edited by  Tanya Hubbard A Production of The Octus Podcast Network

    50 分钟

  6. 8月13日

    EP 10 | Social Security, Chicken Sandwiches & $10B Lakers Math

    Jason Sanjana and Kevin Eckhart kick off with the three words haunting every American retirement plan: Social Security shortfall. They unpack the insolvency date, demographic headwinds, trillion-dollar investment fantasies, and why Twitter’s sovereign wealth fund bros need to chill (01:30). Then it’s a check-in on bankruptcy’s greatest hits Purdue, Stoli, Hooters, and Red Lobster and how restructuring isn’t the end, it’s just a second act in crab-stuffed limbo (20:26). Next: the definitive showdown on fried chicken economics. Wendy’s vs. Chick-fil-A vs. the nostalgic train wreck that is Burger King’s original chicken sandwich (27:45). Why brand loyalty, franchise models, and P/E meddling make your lunch a proxy battle for the U.S. consumer. Then it's legacy leverage and Lakers math (37:12): would the Buss family have made more money just buying the S&P 500 in 1979? Maybe. But would Jack Nicholson have sat courtside at your Vanguard index fund? Doubt it. Closing out with Caitlin Clark, Sophia Cunningham, and the WNBA’s surging franchise value [42:00] — plus why we might need a bodyguard segment every week. And yes, there's a fake ad for AG1. You're welcome. ----more---- Hosted by Jason Sanjana & Kevin Eckhardt Produced and edited by Tanya Hubbard A Production of The Octus Podcast Network

    47 分钟

  7. 8月13日

    EP 09 | Wildfires, Yale’s $6B Exit & the Emotional Therapy of Stick

    Hedge funds are clashing with California regulators over wildfire subrogation claims and the fallout could reshape how distressed assets interact with public recovery funds. Jason and Kevin unpack the PG&E playbook, state-level backlash, and who’s really getting paid (01:30). Then Yale’s $6B endowment unwind takes center stage, as the Ivy League titan quietly tests the secondaries market with Project Gatsby, raising questions about long-term conviction and short-term liquidity (13:20). Kent and Julian return (25:15) to explain why Clear Lake’s sponsor tactics are showing up across multiple LMEs and what the data tells us about repeat offenders, CLO constraints, and creditor fatigue. Closing it out: we head into the world of Stick on Apple TV+ (34:43) part golf drama, part emotional softboy therapy session to explore what the show says about masculinity, generational rewiring, and why Happy Gilmore might’ve done it better. Plus, a little talk about personal happy places, ice lakes in Sweden, and sainthood  (49:00) ----more---- Hosted by Jason Sanjana & Kevin Eckhardt Segment Guests -  Kent Collier, Julian Bulaon Produced and edited by Tanya Hubbard A Production of The Octus Podcast Network

    57 分钟

  8. 8月13日

    EP 08 | Klarna Bought the Groceries, Saks Lost the Plot, TikTok Called a Recession

    This week’s economy? Klarna-fried. Retail? Collapsing in real time. Streaming? Somehow deep. Let’s go. (00:57) Buy Now, Cry Later The Klarna-core economy is here. Jason and Kevin unpack how buy-now-pay-later went from sneakers to cereal—and what that says about consumer debt, regulators, and late-stage capitalism. (07:56) Debt Securitization & Swedish Financial Trust How Klarna’s securitized burrito model mirrors the U.S. Treasury and why nobody’s ready for what happens when the music stops. (13:06) Saks Is in Trouble Octus Senior Distressed Debt Analyst Krishan Sutharshana joins to explain Saks' collapsing bond prices, vendor pullouts, and whether 3G’s debt-fueled luxury empire is headed for restructuring. (28:18) Streaming Therapy: Netflix’s Sirens Is it patriarchy in linen? Trauma-core prestige TV? Or just weirdly good? Jason and Kevin dig into gender, power, and why Kevin Bacon still has it. (38:51) TikTok Recession Indicators Frozen pizza, self-checkout scams, tipping fatigue, Klarna memes, and churches locking their doors. Honestly? The vibes are right.----more----   Hosts: Jason Sanjana & Kevin Eckhardt Guest: Krishan Sutharshana (Octus Credit Research) Produced and Edited by: Tanya Hubbard A Production of The Octus Podcast Network

    44 分钟
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The Octus Download delivers bold, unfiltered conversations that break down complex financial markets while connecting them to the world we actually live in. Hosted by Jason Sanjana & Kevin Eckhardt, this bi-weekly podcast cuts through the noise with insightful analysis, expert interviews, and just the right amount of personality. Each episode explores major trends in credit markets, dives deep into corporate finance, unpacks financial chaos, and examines how these developments impact both Wall Street and Main Street. But we don’t stop at the numbers we also explore the cultural forces shaping business decisions and the occasional bizarre intersections of finance with everyday life. Whether you’re tracking market movements, curious about investment strategies, or just want smart financial conversation with some pop culture thrown in, The Octus Download delivers market intelligence that’s both valuable and entertaining. Join us every other week as we connect the dots between money, markets, and modern life one episode at a time.

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