Never Contemplated

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Never Contemplated Podcast

The Florida Bar’s Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism presents Never Contemplated, a candid discussion with female judges from across the state about gender bias, professionalism, and civility in the judicial system, hosted by Judge Hetal Desai. Disclaimer: The views expressed by the participants of this program are their own and do not represent the views of, nor are they endorsed by The Florida Bar, their respective officers, directors, employees, agents, or representatives. None of the content should be considered legal advice. As always, consult a lawyer.

  1. 5 SEPT

    The Practice of Law May be Different Than You Imagined

    Listen to our episode with Magie Ozarowski, the new host of the On Civility podcast. Judge Desai and Ms. Ozarowski talk about what it’s like to be a government attorney, to regulate alcohol, to be a Fellow in The Florida Bar's Leadership Academy, and to explore the world. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1.0 hour of General CLE credit, and 1.0 hour of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #8694.

    36 min

  2. 27 JUN

    Never Contemplated with Renée E. Thompson Chair-Elect of The Florida Bar’s Solo & Small Firm Section

    Enjoy this interactive session as our host, Judge Hetal Desai talks with Renée E. Thompson Chair of The Florida Bar’s Solo & Small Firm Section as they discuss the many benefits of section membership. CLE #8573 .5 Professionalism and General Credit.

    33 min

  3. 16 APR

    Committee Work -Collaborating to Create a Better World for Colleagues and Florida Families

    In this episode of Never Contemplated, host Judge Hetal Desai talks with two distinguished members of The Florida Bar’s Family Law Section, Sarah Kay, and Shannon Novey. Tune in as they share their expertise and shed light on the intricacies of this multifaceted legal field.  CLE Number: 8460

    47 min

  4. 23 JAN

    Immerse Yourself and Just Get Involved - Victoria Heuler and Sarah Butters

    Meet Victoria Heuler and Sarah Butters, leaders of the Florida Bar’s Elder Law and Real Property Probate and Trust Law (RPPTL) Sections. Learn about the differences and similarities between these practice areas, and the professional and practical benefits to joining a Bar Section. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1.0 hour of General CLE credit, and 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #8306. Links: The Florida Bar RPPTL Section Elder Law Section of the Florida Bar (eldersection.org)

    50 min

  5. 30/11/2023

    Surround Yourself with Amazing People - Rebecca Bandy

    This episode is a true holiday gift. Enjoy this interactive recording with Judge Hetal Desai and Rebecca Bandy, Director of the Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism at The Florida Bar, where they discuss her story and legal professionalism live from the National Association of Administrative Law Judiciary Conference in Tampa, Florida. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of General CLE credit, and 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #8231. REFERENCED RESOURCES:  Segregated Proms and SOUTHERN RITES: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/may/15/integrated-proms-race-georgia-gillian-laub-photographshttps://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/24/magazine/24prom-t.htmlhttps://www.blind-magazine.com/news/black-queen-white-queen/https://www.southernritesproject.com/  The USS COLE, Carl Wingate’s Journal https://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=132305&page=1https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/military/2011/05/04/first-coast-survivor-uss-cole-blast-can-finally-sleep-soundly/15905090007/

    46 min

  6. 18/10/2023

    It’s a much more gratifying way of life when you are serving others - Justice Meredith Sasso

    Meet Justice Meredith Sasso, the newest member of the Florida Supreme Court. Listen to her conversation with Judge Hetal Desai about growing up in the capital city, what being on a sports team taught her, Guardian Ad Litem (https://guardianadlitem.org/), the creation and workings of the 6th DCA, and the importance of the Bar’s rules committees. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1.0 hour of General CLE credit, and 1.0 hour of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #8182.

    41 min

  7. 18/08/2023

    The Ability to Read the Room is as Important as the Ability to Read the Law - Alexis Fowler

    Enjoy this interactive session with Judge Desai and Alexis Fowler, Government Relations Director at Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, where they discuss her survival story and the importance of giving back.  This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1.5 hour of General CLE credit, and 1.0 hour of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #7916.

    50 min

  8. 26/04/2023

    Recognize Your Own Talents - Melanie S. Griffin

    Enjoy this speed session with Judge Desai and Secretary of the Department of Business and Professional Regulation (DBPR), where they discuss mentorship, the FSU J.D./M.B.A. program, evaluating life-work balance in the long term, getting over imposter syndrome, the workings of DBPR, and the Secretary’s personal story of motherhood. http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/  Twitter: @melaniesgriffin@floridadbpr This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of General CLE credit, and 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #7463.

    36 min
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The Florida Bar’s Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism presents Never Contemplated, a candid discussion with female judges from across the state about gender bias, professionalism, and civility in the judicial system, hosted by Judge Hetal Desai. Disclaimer: The views expressed by the participants of this program are their own and do not represent the views of, nor are they endorsed by The Florida Bar, their respective officers, directors, employees, agents, or representatives. None of the content should be considered legal advice. As always, consult a lawyer.

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