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Ep 354: Get Curious

Market Proof Marketing · Ep 354: Get Curious Kevin Oakley, Julie Jarnagin and Beth Russell sit down for this week's episode to discuss empathy, the power of symbolism within marketing, and the importance of marketers staying curious and deepening their knowledge. Topics this week also include changes surrounding Google, AI and the iPhone 16 launch, and the post-NAR settlement landscape. Story Time (2:52): Beth is taking an online course about storytelling with data, and talks skeletons! Julie received an email recently with questions surrounding a recent article, and at a core, the answer was empathy Kevin is taking a class surrounding symbolism -- and is going to dive deeper into the subject at Summit In The News (19:24): News Corp would've lost $9 million in 2017 by ditching Google ads, ex-exec testifies (https://www.reuters.com/technology/news-corp-would-lose-9-million-by-ditching-google-ads-ex-exec-testifies-2024-09-10/) Apple Announced new Apple Intelligence at iPhone 16 launch this week (coming this fall) (https://www.apple.com/apple-intelligence/) How the Post-NAR Settlement Landscape Will Shape the New Home Market (https://www.builderonline.com/builder-100/strategy/how-the-post-nar-settlement-landscape-will-shape-the-new-home-market_o) Things We Love - Things We Hate (42:40): Julie hates hurricanes, but loves that she has power! Beth made two discoveries this week - one being Costco double-smoked bacon sandwiches, and the other being Blue Bell cinnamon ice creamKevin says the latest Insta360 x4 is fire Questions? Comments? Email show@doyouconvert.com and we’ll address them on the next episode. More insights, discussions, and opportunities can be found at DYC: All Access.A weekly new home marketing podcast for home builders and developers. Each week Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, Beth Russell, Jackie Lipinski, Julie Jarnagin, and other team members from Do You Convert will break down the headlines, share best practices and stories from the front line, and perform a deep dive on a relevant marketing topic. We’re here to help you – not to sell you!Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! The post Ep 354: Get Curious appeared first on Online Sales and Marketing for Home Builders - DYC.

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Ep 353: The Truth Is Old

Market Proof Marketing · Ep 353: The Truth Is OldKevin Oakley and Julie Jarnagin welcome Jen Barkan for this week's episode! Things kick off with Kevin bringing up the point that oftentimes, the truth is "old", but never gets old, and Julie followed up with a core lesson learned in writing school -- you have to learn the rules before you can break them. Story Time (5:36): Jen wanted to start tracking her nutrition, and was given an assessment to be assigned a coach, which she was originally skeptical of. She was pleasantly surprised by how personalized the experience was, and how her coach set a great expectation of response time. Julie had a really fun builder call with DYC team member Becca, and loves the process of solving puzzles with partners to hit their goals. Kevin talks about a concept he's looking forward to touching on at Summit -- the truth is "old," but never "gets old." In The News (24:15): Closing Time: 6 Ways to Ask For The Appointment (https://www.doyouconvert.com/blog/closing-time-6-ways-to-ask-for-the-appointment/)As Gen-A.I. and Data Fuse With Homebuyers' Journey, Trust Matters Most (https://www.thebuildersdaily.com/as-gen-a-i-and-data-fuse-with-homebuyers-journey-trust-matters-most/)You'll soon be able to leave comments on Instagram Stories posts (https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/3/24235292/instagram-stories-disappearing-comments-from-friends)Things We Love - Things We Hate (45:02): Julie is so excited about what her teammates have prepared for Summit! Jen is loving football season, especially college football. Kevin is looking forward to the photo walking tour that will take place at the Summit led by Chad Davies with Davies Imaging Group. He also loves seeing his kiddos grow up and navigate their way through life, sharing a few stories about his daughters. Questions? Comments? Email show@doyouconvert.com and we’ll address them on the next episode. More insights, discussions, and opportunities can be found at DYC: All Access.A weekly new home marketing podcast for home builders and developers. Each week Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, Beth Russell, Jackie Lipinski, Julie Jarnagin, and other team members from Do You Convert will break down the headlines, share best practices and stories from the front line, and perform a deep dive on a relevant marketing topic. We’re here to help you – not to sell you! Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! The post Ep 353: The Truth Is Old appeared first on Online Sales and Marketing for Home Builders - DYC.

53 min

5 SEPT

Ep 352: Create Once, Publish Everywhere

Jackie Lipinski, Julie Jarnagin and Beth Russell host episode 352 and discuss creative ways to repurpose content -- bringing home the idea of "create once, publish everywhere." This episode also covers AI (is it getting dumber?), and finding ways to energize and approach even "mundane" topics. And last but not least, never underestimate how many people put their pets at the forefront of their homebuilding decisions! Story Time (3:38): Beth had a "moment of magic" on a leadership call recentlyJackie went to Banff, Canada for her 10-year anniversary, and received the most lovely handwritten cardsJulie shared a moment from a recent call where a topic that could be considered mundane turned into an energized conversation From The News (18:09): Creative Repurposing Strategies for Digital Marketing Success: (https://www.doyouconvert.com)Did AI Already Peak And Now It's Getting Dumber? (https://futurism.com)Prioritizing Pets: New Study Reveals The Role Animals Play In Home Design (https://www.builderonline.com)Question Of The Week: Do you think the title of the model home is important (sales center, sales gallery)? Is the term "sales" too intimidating?Clarifying and setting good expectations on the website Paying attention to your local market Things We Love - Things We Hate (39:09): Beth's husband just celebrated his 40th birthday, and she surprised him with an Ember mug that he absolutely loves Julie enjoyed meeting Beth's husband who came and spoke to a group about leadership Jackie's favorite thing is from Amazon -- a portable hanging travel shelf bag -- which made living out of a suitcase so much easier Market Proof Marketing · Ep 352: Create Once, Publish EverywhereQuestions? Comments? Email show@doyouconvert.com and we’ll address them on the next episode. More insights, discussions, and opportunities can be found at DYC: All Access.A weekly new home marketing podcast for home builders and developers. Each week Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, Beth Russell, Jackie Lipinski, Julie Jarnagin, and other team members from Do You Convert will break down the headlines, share best practices and stories from the front line, and perform a deep dive on a relevant marketing topic. We’re here to help you – not to sell you! Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! The post Ep 352: Create Once, Publish Everywhere appeared first on Online Sales and Marketing for Home Builders - DYC.

44 min

29 AUG

Ep 351: Consumers Gonna Consume

Kevin Oakley is joined by Julie Jarnagin and Andrew Peek for Episode #351! We share some exciting news this episode -- Do You Convert is Hiring! The team reminisces on Julie's first interview and podcast episode, and Kevin brings up a good analogy from the filming of The Mighty Ducks. Andrew gives you a great rundown of Reddit and what to expect there on the platform's growth, and Kevin reminds us - "consumers gonna consume." Story Time (05:43)Julie shares her running journey, and how while it isn't easy, it's worth it. She relates it to builder messaging on websites, and how promising "easy" isn't the greatest strategy. Instead, how do we lean into the "worth it" messaging. Andrew talks the Dunning-Kruger effect, and the dangers of making incorrect assumptions with high levels of confidenceWe have a first for Kevin... no story time this week! In The News (23:33)Who'll Be First Movers Among Homebuilders In New Commission Regime? (https://www.thebuildersdaily.com)The US Government Just Banned Fake AI-Generated Reviews (https://futurism.com) Five key signs that Reddit is getting ready to launch its own search ads business (https://digiday.com)Question of the Week (48:08): "Will there be a shift toward having a single manager (VP of Marketing and Sales) in our industry rather than having two department heads reporting to a CEO?"Differences in management styles Trends we've seen over the years The answer depends heavily on the person, and the builder Things We Love - Things We Hate (55:06)Kevin references the book In This Economy? by Kyla Scanlon, and a recent post by the author discussing home insurance. Julie watched a documentary titled Mountain Queen on Netflix. And Kevin suggests watching age-appropriate comedy shows with your kids. Andrew's current favorite is a spin-mop vacuum, which has worked wonders on his flooring. Market Proof Marketing · Ep 351: Consumers Gonna ConsumeQuestions? Comments? Email show@doyouconvert.com and we’ll address them on the next episode. More insights, discussions, and opportunities can be found at DYC: All Access.A weekly new home marketing podcast for home builders and developers. Each week Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, Beth Russell, Jackie Lipinski, Julie Jarnagin, and other team members from Do You Convert will break down the headlines, share best practices and stories from the front line, and perform a deep dive on a relevant marketing topic. We’re here to help you – not to sell you! Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! The post Ep 351: Consumers Gonna Consume appeared first on Online Sales and Marketing for Home Builders - DYC.

1h 3m

22 AUG

Ep 350: Putting A Pin In Efficiency

The team celebrates Episode 350 of the Market Proof Marketing podcast! The theme of this episode hosted by Kevin Oakley, Julie Jarnagin and Andrew Peek is efficiency... but it's not what you might be thinking! Instead, Kevin argues that he doesn't understand the urge to push efficiency in the sales process at this time in the market, when potential homeowners want to feel like anything but an efficiency. Also discussed in this episode is Pinterest (is Gen Z just beginning to act old?), and some interesting case studies centered around realtors and market trends. Story Time (01:38)Julie recalls a recent conversation with a builder about how websites used to cater to a user's first time visiting, but with the journey expanding in today's market, she highlights the importance of speaking to repeat customers on your site, too. Andrew helped take on some tasks for a team member that was out of office and found it insightful to view processes through another's eyes. Kevin posted a squirrel GIF about problem solving, and was surprised by just how many people related to it! In fact, one builder even put the idea on a Yeti mug as a reminder for problem-solving. He had a wonderful time recently on a long call with a builder brainstorming and positively approaching issues. In The News (25:27)Burned By Boom: Austin's Builders in the Hot Seat (https://www.parcllabs.com)Meritage Buyer Resources (https://www.meritagehomes.com)'One of the first places I go': Gen Z is finding brands via Pinterest (https://www.modernretail.co) Broad match keywords: When to test and when to avoid (https://searchengineland.com)Things We Love - Things We Hate (50:47)Julie's kiddos are back in school, and all of the parents out there know that that can be a love-hate! Andrew is on Season 4 of Game of Thrones (arguably for Kevin where it peaks!), and is dialed in. Kevin is watching Big Brother with his family and notes a realtor on the show whose bad behavior has tarnished her reputation professionally -- an interesting idea that you can't go on a show where the whole point is to backstab and lie, and not tarnish your brand. You are who you are all of the time! Market Proof Marketing · Ep 350: Putting A Pin In EfficiencyQuestions? Comments? Email show@doyouconvert.com and we’ll address them on the next episode. More insights, discussions, and opportunities can be found at DYC: All Access.A weekly new home marketing podcast for home builders and developers. Each week Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, Beth Russell, Jackie Lipinski, Julie Jarnagin, and other team members from Do You Convert will break down the headlines, share best practices and stories from the front line, and perform a deep dive on a relevant marketing topic. We’re here to help you – not to sell you! Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! The post Ep 350: Putting A Pin In Efficiency appeared first on Online Sales and Marketing for Home Builders - DYC.

59 min

15 AUG

Ep 349: Strategic Spaghetti

Jackie Lipinski, Kevin Oakley and Beth Russell host Episode 349! In this episode, the team discusses the seasonal changes in homebuilder marketing, and focusing on the right things when it comes to leads and conversions. We have some new exciting blog posts they discuss, highlighting the importance of not oversimplifying how we view data. And of course last but not least, "strategic spaghetti", a great term Beth has been using to remind her builders to approach even new opportunities very strategically.Story Time (02:00)Beth has deemed the song "Too Little Too Late" by JoJo the anthem of August, emphasizing the importance of preparing for the fall and celebrating the small wins we can get. Jackie brings up an insightful story from a book she loves, Alchemy, by Rory Sutherland, which she tied into finding creative ways for a builder to remove boredom from the process of waiting for your home. In The News (10:59)Messaging Strategies to Meet Your Buyers Where They Are (https://www.doyouconvert.com )Federal judge rules Google violated antitrust law (https://searchengineland.com)Attribution is B.S. Three-Part Series (https://www.doyouconvert.com)Zillow releases state-specific short-term touring agreements (https://www.housingwire.com) Question of the Week: How will increased pricing transparency affect conversion ratios? (43:24) Kevin gives a great example about Tesla and ties it to interactive floor plans.Beth feels making the process easier up-front will spur further conversation down the road, and discusses the strategy of gating information and how it all comes down to execution -- and Kevin discusses his thoughts on gating information.Jackie recalls the positives and negatives of when you provide information, and how accurate the pricing details are. Things We Love - Things We Hate (52:00)Beth's favorite phrase this week for her builders is "strategic spaghetti". When throwing things at the wall to see what sticks, you still have to do things strategically! Jackie's first heirloom tomato is in, and this year she went for quality over quantity! Kevin brings up UTour, and one of his new favorite questions to ask, "How do you track and report UTour appointments?" And... over 80% said they don't! He is loving Ozlo Sleepbuds, which plays what you are interested in listening to, but then defaults to your sleep sounds. Market Proof Marketing · Ep 349: Strategic SpaghettiQuestions? Comments? Email show@doyouconvert.com and we’ll address them on the next episode. More insights, discussions, and opportunities can be found at DYC: All Access.A weekly new home marketing podcast for home builders and developers. Each week Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, Beth Russell, Jackie Lipinski, Julie Jarnagin, and other team members from Do You Convert will break down the headlines, share best practices and stories from the front line, and perform a deep dive on a relevant marketing topic. We’re here to help you – not to sell you! Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! The post Ep 349: Strategic Spaghetti appeared first on Online Sales and Marketing for Home Builders - DYC.

1h 0m

8 AUG

Ep 348: Positively Impacting The Numbers

Kevin Oakley is joined by Jen Barkan and Andrew Peek this episode, and they dive into the Q2 Benchmarks that were just released! They touch on the spicy Attribution is B.S. three-part series recently posted, as well as news and thoughts surrounding the Olympics! Story Time (07:13)Jen shares a story from a coaching call, and a new term that was assigned to very old leads in a builder's CRM -- "the walking dead corpse revival." This brings up the importance of segmenting your database, and the hard work that goes into list hygiene. Andrew provides an update on his visit to Epperson Lagoon/new home community (he loved it, but did feel some parts didn't look as "finished" as they should for how long it has been around). Which brings up a great point - when the magic can fade during the experience, when is the best time for a sales consultant to connect?Kevin's story time is a theory: builders are likely engaging with consumers using AI more than they think, but not in the ways that they think. His hunch? To try to negotiate a lower price. They also discuss SearchGPT, and what to expect there. In The News (35:41)Attribution is B.S. (Part II): (https://www.doyouconvert.com)Q2 Benchmarks: (https://www.doyouconvert.com)62% of Gen Z and Millennials Want to Be Homeowners Despite Concerns ( https://www.builderonline.com)Google's Latest Pitch for AI Is So Sad It Sounds Like A Spoof (https://futurism.com)6 Apple Intelligence features you can try right now and how to turn them on (https://mashable.com)Things We Love - Things We Hate Andrew started Game of Thrones which he's loving, but can't wait until he gets a better grasp on the complicated character structure. Jen is really enjoying the Olympics! And the team wonders... how old is Snoop Dogg?Market Proof Marketing · Ep 348: Positively Impacting The NumbersQuestions? Comments? Email show@doyouconvert.com and we’ll address them on the next episode. More insights, discussions, and opportunities can be found at DYC: All Access.A weekly new home marketing podcast for home builders and developers. Each week Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, Beth Russell, Jackie Lipinski, Julie Jarnagin, and other team members from Do You Convert will break down the headlines, share best practices and stories from the front line, and perform a deep dive on a relevant marketing topic. We’re here to help you – not to sell you! Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! The post Ep 348: Positively Impacting The Numbers appeared first on Online Sales and Marketing for Home Builders - DYC.

1h 10m

1 AUG

Ep 347: Do The Right Thing

Andrew Peek is joined by Julie Jarnagin and Jackie Lipinski this episode! The podcast starts out with something every marketer can relate to -- managing disgruntled homeowners on public platforms. The topic of brand management comes up, which boils down to a core element of doing the right thing. Attribution is also on the docket this episode, and why you should examine it with a critical eye to avoid avoidable data pitfalls.Story Time (05:45)Julie talks disgruntled homeowners on social media, and reminds everyone of the best approach to handling these situations when they arise. Jackie is getting ready to take on some good old fashioned "panic cleaning" in preparation for family coming to town! Which leads to a great suggestion on improving customer experience. Andrew is deep-diving into SEO, and brings up the simple opportunities builders can take to make meaningful improvements for attainable time input. He also brings up the correlation to reputation management. In The News (26:52)Attribution is B.S. (https://www.doyouconvert.com) Google to keep cookies in Chrome after advertiser pushback (https://finance.yahoo.com)Homebuyer FOMO Starts to Pump Up Canada's Real Estate Market (https://www.bloomberg.com)Why You Should Be Focusing On Brand Marketing Right Now (https://www.searchenginejournal.com)Things We Love - Things We Hate Andrew is enjoying his Ninja CREAMi, which makes incredible protein shake ice cream treats. He is not, however, enjoying the Sonos speaker app. Jackie is finding a great deal of convenience in the Amazon Fresh stores. Julie shouts out DYC's creative team member Jade Young, who sketched the most incredible drawing for our recent Attribution blog post. She is also enjoying a few new podcasts that will definitely keep you entertained! (Don't say she didn't warn you!)Market Proof Marketing · Ep 347: Do The Right ThingQuestions? Comments? Email show@doyouconvert.com and we’ll address them on the next episode. More insights, discussions, and opportunities can be found at DYC: All Access.A weekly new home marketing podcast for home builders and developers. Each week Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, Beth Russell, Jackie Lipinski, Julie Jarnagin, and other team members from Do You Convert will break down the headlines, share best practices and stories from the front line, and perform a deep dive on a relevant marketing topic. We’re here to help you – not to sell you! Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! The post Ep 347: Do The Right Thing appeared first on Online Sales and Marketing for Home Builders - DYC.

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Market Proof Marketing: Home Builder Marketing Insights

Ep 354: Get Curious

Ep 353: The Truth Is Old

Ep 352: Create Once, Publish Everywhere

Ep 351: Consumers Gonna Consume

Ep 350: Putting A Pin In Efficiency

Ep 349: Strategic Spaghetti

Ep 348: Positively Impacting The Numbers

Ep 347: Do The Right Thing

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Ep 354: Get Curious

Ep 353: The Truth Is Old

Ep 352: Create Once, Publish Everywhere

Ep 351: Consumers Gonna Consume

Ep 350: Putting A Pin In Efficiency

Ep 349: Strategic Spaghetti

Ep 348: Positively Impacting The Numbers

Ep 347: Do The Right Thing

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