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Caroline Wilson and Corrie Perkin are best friends who share their unique take on life. Nothing is off limits. Just don't shoot the messenger.

  1. 2 DAYS AGO

    Ep 336 - Kelli Underwood, special guest co-host

    ON THIS EPISODE: Special guest co-host, Kelli Underwood Caro asks Kelli about her decision finish with Offsiders We explore Kelli’s experience as a ground breaking play-by-play commentator of AFL How the AFLW can improve and evolve And some topical ‘6 quick questions’   Kelli Underwood joins Caroline Wilson While Caro is a ground breaker in the industry, Kelli is too – having been the first woman to call AFL on TV for channel 10 Her first experience in a commentary box with 3AW – and the various roles she had Her addiction to the adrenaline of calling a game of footy Some of the biggest stories she has broken Kelli’s decision to finish up with Offsiders Memorable episodes of Offsiders Calling AFL games – Rex Hunt planted the seed The challenges she faced – and her experience with Ch 10 – did 12 games over 2 years but felt like a failure at the end of it – however ABC continued to believe in her and gave her games Kelli spoke about why she loves seeing females coming through as callers of AFL / AFLW games – Jess Webster, Lauren Bourdin, Jo Wotton Kelli says she controls the negativity now – the feedback can be so predictable People have an obsession with people that make mistakes – of course commentators will make mistakes AFLW – they’re not doing enough – it has come a long way and the quality is improving -but who is in there advocating and innovating with AFLW? THE DOCKTAIL CABINET, WITH Myles Thomson from the Prince Wine Store This week, Myles discusses Rosé BOOK, SCREEN, FOOD (BSF) – for RED ENERGY – Be empowered with the Red Energy mobile app BOOK: Kelli Underwood reviews ANGE by Vince Rugari SCREEN: My Old Ass – Kelli saw this at the cinema last week FOOD: Caro has a recipe: Tomato Curry ITEM 5 – SIX QUICK QUESTIONS – for RED ENERGY Caro to Kelli: 1 – Where did you stand on the Lachie Neale / Abbey Holmes post-game kiss? 2 – Did Tom Morris deserve to return to football reporting? 3 – Should Adelaide have re-signed Matthew Nicks? 4 – Should John Longmire move on as Swans’ coach? 5 – Your favourite sports commentator? 6 – Jack Ginnivan or Ken Hinkley – which side are you on? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    1h 20m
  2. 6 NOV

    Ep 335 - The US Election

    ON TODAY’S SHOW Our thoughts on the US election The result, the media coverage, what it means going forward Why are people so keen to get into the Qantas Chairman’s lounge? Zach Tuohy’s book excerpt re: Brendon Bolton Derby Day fashion And a Spring Bruschetta recipe   THE US ELECTION: WHAT JUST HAPPENED? -       How the day unfolded for us -       Media coverage – how did we access? Who did a good job? -       Why did Trump win -       Why did Harris lose -       Biggest fear/biggest relief -       What will shift over the next 4 years -       Does a Trump administration affect Australia -       Any lessons we might learn for forthcoming 2025 federal election   THE COCKTAIL CABINET – brought to us by Prince Wine Store and Myles Thomson. Search Prince Wine Store dot com dot au This week: Myles discusses American wine and BSF brought to us by Red Energy BOOK: Corrie has a book: So Late In the Day by Claire Keegan SCREEN:  Caro reviews Blitz FOOD:  CORRIE HAS A RECIPE : Spring Bruschetta by Julia Busuttil Nishimura  350 g fresh shelled peas or frozen baby peas 2 garlic cloves juice of ½ lemon, plus extra juice and finely grated zest to serve handful each of mint leaves and parsley leaves 30 g Pecorino Romano, grated, plus extra to serve 80 ml (⅓ cup) extra-virgin olive oil, plus extra for drizzling sea salt and black pepper 4 slices of sourdough 2 × 100 g buffalo mozzarella balls, roughly torn, at room temperature 8 anchovy fillets in olive oil, drained Whenever I have friends over, I usually start with something on grilled bread. These bruschetta are great because, if you use frozen peas, they are not just for spring, although eating them in spring does feel very right. The bread can be grilled and the topping made ahead of time, with assembly taking place just before serving. Blanch the peas until tender, drain and refresh under cold water. Reserve 50 g (⅓ cup) of the peas and set aside. Finely grate one of the garlic cloves and place in a food processor with the peas, the lemon juice, mint, parsley and Pecorino Romano. Process to a fairly smooth mixture, scraping the side of the bowl if needed. Stream in the olive oil, process again to combine and season to taste. Transfer to a bowl and mix in the reserved peas. Set aside. Grill both sides of the bread on a grill plate until golden and slightly charred on both sides. Halve the remaining garlic clove and rub one side of the grilled bread with the cut side of the garlic. Place the bread on a serving plate and drizzle with some extra olive oil. Top with some mozzarella, follow with a spoonful of the pea mixture and finish by draping over an anchovy fillet. Top with some lemon zest and extra lemon juice, another drizzle of olive oil, a scattering of extra Pecorino Romano and season with salt and pepper. Cut each slice in half to serve as a snack. SERVES 8 DID YOU SEE THAT? A new term for airports – ‘Gate-Lice’ SIX QUICK QUESTIONS for Red Energy   CARO TO CORRIE: What sporting story never ceases to surprise you CORRIE TO CARO: Which excerpt from a recently-retired footballer’s memoir raised your eyebrows CARO TO CORRIE: Can you give us your 3.2.1 Derby and Cup Day fashions CORRIE TO CARO:  What’s so special about the Qantas Chairman’s Lounge CARO TO CORRIE: Which phone number did you not expect to call this week CORRIE TO CARO: Over the weekend, where did you go on a surprise date   Thank you Red Energy, Prince Winestore and Cobram Olive Oil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    1h 9m
  3. 28 OCT

    Ep 334 - John Silvester - Sly of the Underworld

    ON THIS WEEK’S EPISODE Special guest, John Silvester (Sly of the Underworld) True crime, crime drama and books We discuss Jack Ginnivan The US Election Miles’ Derby Weekend Sparkling recommendations   Email us at feedback@dontshootpod.com.au Facebook.com/dontshootpod Instagram @dontshootpod Twitter @dontshootpod    Interview with John – his new book Dark City: True Stories of Crimes, Cock-Ups, Crooks and Cops (Pan Macmllan $36.99)   -The book’s premise - Dark City is the second riotous collection of stories from 'Sly of the Underworld'. How did Naked City – the first in the series – fare? Feedback from readers? Cops? Crims? - What’s your biggest crime story / longest/most distressing to cover - Written/co-authored more than 30 books, including Naked City, and the Chopper and Underbelly series, later adapted to film and television.How did the Underbelly series come about?   THE COCKTAIL CABINET – brought to us by Prince Wine Store and Myles Thomson. Search Prince Wine Store dot com dot au. This week: Myles discusses Derby Weekend Sparkling   BSF brought to us by RED ENERGY – Be empowered with the Red Energy mobile app BOOK: Caro has a book: Death at the Sign of the Rook by Kate Atkinson SCREEN: Caro reviews Lee Thank you to Cobram Estate Olive Oil. FOOD: SLY has a Recipe: Cedar Planked Salmon Marinade The salmon marinade keeps the fish moist while adding tons savory flavor: Soy sauce Vegetable oil Rice vinegar Sesame oil Green onions Fresh ginger Minced garlic How to Cook Salmon On a Cedar Plank Here's a brief overview of what you can expect when you make cedar plank salmon: Soak the cedar planks. Make the marinade. Grill the planks until they start to smoke and crackle. Place the salmon on the planks, close the grill, and grill until the salmon is flaky. How Long to Cook Salmon On a Cedar Plank Salmon cooked on soaked cedar planks on a grill preheated to medium leat should flake perfectly with a fork after about 20 minutes. Don't forget hat the fish will continue to cook after it is removed from the heat   SIX QUICK QUESTIONS for Red Energy. owned by Snowy Hydro, a renewable energy leader. CORRIE TO JOHN: Should former chief police commissioners stay out of current affairs CARO TO CORRIE: Should former presidents stay out of current election campaigns CARO TO JOHN: Where do you stand on Jack Ginnivan CORRIE TO CARO: What’s the one thing you miss most about being a kid CARO TO JOHN: What’s your favorite TV crime drama  CORRIE TO CARO: Who is your favorite crime novelist   Thank you Red Energy, Prince Winestore and Cobram Olive Oil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    1h 8m
  4. 22 OCT

    Ep 333 - I don't like dress ups

    ON THIS WEEK’S SHOW: The GWS dress up story The New York Times Top 100 books of 21st century The US election Lidia Thorpe’s interruption to the King’s reception   Email us at feedback@dontshootpod.com.au Facebook.com/dontshootpod Instagram @dontshootpod Twitter @dontshootpod  ALL DRESSED UP -       Greater Western Sydney and the costume party debacle  – Caro to explain -       Other fancy dress misdemeanours ie Prince Harry as a Nazi, Paris Hilton in a Native American outfit -       With Halloween next week, how do we feel about dress-ups -       Our own great fancy dress moments THE COCKTAIL CABINET – brought to us by Prince Wine Store and Myles Thomson. This week: Myles discusses Spring Mixed Dozen BSF brought to us by Red Energy owned by Snowy Hydro, a renewable energy leader. BOOK: Corrie has a book: Stone Yard Devotional  by Charlotte Wood SCREEN: Caro reviews Disclaimer on Apple TV Thank you to Cobram Estate Olive Oil   FOOD: Caro has a Recipe:  Asparagus and creme fraiche vol-au-vents Ingredients (8) 2 x 4-pack store-bought vol-au-vent pastry shells 1 tbs extra virgin olive oil 2 bunches asparagus, trimmed and cut into 3cm pieces 3 garlic cloves, finely chopped 170g creme fraiche Finely grated zest of 2 lemons 1/2 cup (40g) finely grated pecorino, plus extra to serve Chervil leaves, to serve Method 1. Preheat oven to 200C/180C fan-forced. Line a baking tray with baking paper. 2. Place pastry shells on prepared tray. Bake in oven for 5-8 minutes or according to packet instructions. 3. Meanwhile, place oil in a medium frypan over medium heat. Add asparagus and garlic. Cook, stirring occasionally, for 4-5 minutes or until the asparagus is bright green and just tender. Remove the pan from the heat and stir through creme fraiche, zest and pecorino until well combined and pecorino begins to melts. Season with salt flakes and black pepper. 4. Spoon the asparagus filling into the warm tart shells. Serve topped with chervil and extra pecorino. DID YOU SEE THAT? The best 100 books of the 21st century, according to the New York Times                 SIX QUICK QUESTIONS for Red Energy. Owned by Snowy Hydro, a renewable energy leader. CORRIE TO CARO: What was the strangest headline you saw over the weekend CARO TO CORRIE: What car moment really got up your goat this week CORRIE TO CARO:  How do you feel about Independent Senator Lidia Thorpe interrupting King Charles’ Canberra reception this week by shouting out “you are not our king” and “this is not your land CARO TO CORRIE: What surprised you in the Q and A section of former UK MP Rory Stewart’s Melbourne appearance this week CORRIE TO CARO:   What moment of nature filled you with joy over the past week CARO TO CORRIE: Two weeks to go, who do you think will win the US presidential election Thank you Red Energy, Prince Winestore and Cobram Olive Oil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    1h 15m
  5. 15 OCT

    Ep 332 - King Charles Has Snubbed Melbourne!

    ON THIS EPISODE King Charles’ visit to Australia Why kitchens are our world A frustration with Wordle Heartwarming moments  KITCHEN CONFIDENTIAL Or, why kitchens are our world, especially at this time of year Although we love winter cooking, Spring and Summer are big for both of us in terms of cooking, feasting, having people around the table, Christmas, Summer entertaining etc What tips have we learned after all these years ie how NOT to spend an entire beautiful beach day in the kitchen Introducing Virginia Trioli’s book A Bit On The Side: Reflections On What Makes Life Delicious. Corrie discusses last night’s event and some take homes from Virginia   THE COCKTAIL CABINET – brought to us by Prince Wine Store and Myles Thomson. Search Prince Wine Store dot com dot au This week: Myles discusses a white to go with Spring asparagus and a red to go with Spring Lamb Racine Picpoul De Pinet   BSF brought to us by RED ENERGY. Be empowered with the Red Energy mobile app BOOK: Caro has a book: We Solve Murders by Richard Osman SCREEN: Corrie reviews Lonely Planet on Netflix Thank you to Cobram Estate Olive Oil FOOD: Corrie has a Recipe: Fennel and Zucchini Salad with Preserved Lemon Dressing by Yotam Ottolenghi Ingredients 20g mint leaves, roughly chopped 20g dill, roughly chopped 25g chives, roughly cut into 2cm lengths 75ml olive oil 2 large (750g) fennel bulbs, trimmed, halved lengthways and finely shaved on a mandolin or by hand 2 (420g) courgettes, trimmed and finely shaved on a mandolin or by hand 1 tbsp lemon juice 1½ tsp fennel seeds, toasted and roughly crushed with a pestle and mortar 1½ tsp pink peppercorns, roughly crushed with a pestle and mortar salt and black pepper For the preserved lemon dressing: 40g preserved lemon (1-2 lemons), pips discarded and flesh and skin roughly chopped (35g) ½ (20g) small shallot, roughly chopped 1 garlic clove, crushed 2½ tbsp olive oil METHOD: Make the dressing by putting the preserved lemon, shallot, garlic and lemon juice into the small bowl of a food processor and blitzing until finely chopped. With the machine running, gradually add the oil and blitz for 1–2 minutes more, until completely smooth. Transfer to a small bowl. Put all the herbs, 4 tablespoons of oil and a pinch each of salt and pepper into the food processor and pulse to finely chop. Add the fennel, courgette, lemon juice, ⅔ teaspoon of salt and a good grind of pepper to a large bowl and mix well to combine. Set aside for 5 minutes to soften, then add the herb mixture and toss together well. Transfer half the salad to a large plate, and spoon over half the dressing and half the fennel seeds and pink peppercorns. Repeat once more, drizzle with the last tablespoon of oil and serve right away. DID YOU SEE THAT? We discuss King Charles’ upcoming trip to Australia  SIX QUICK QUESTIONS for RED ENERGY. Be empowered with the Red Energy mobile app CORRIE TO CARO: What mother-daughter moment touched your heart this week CARO TO CORRIE: What mother-daughter moment touched your heart this week CORRIE TO CARO: In this week of local council elections what has most ground your gears CARO TO CORRIE: What’s your latest Wordle whinge CORRIE TO CARO: What email came out of the blue this week and shocked and devastated you? CARO TO CORRIE: What’s the latest on the musical public toilet’s hit parade Thank you Red Energy, Prince Winestore and Cobram Olive Oil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    1h 7m
  6. 7 OCT

    Ep 331 - Can Girl Power Win Elections?

    ON TODAY’S SHOW: The challenges with Daylight Savings Can Girl Power win elections? How did Caro cope without Football? Corrie’s long-term crush Why Caro is proud of Melbournians   Email us at feedback@dontshootpod.com.au Facebook.com/dontshootpod Instagram @dontshootpod Twitter @dontshootpod    Item 1: What Time/Day/Week Is It? Daylight saving, how we coped with the change The challenges of Australia having different time zones The challenges of Australia having different school and public holidays   Item 2: Can Girl Power win elections Liz Cheney, former Republican senator, last week endorsed Democratic VP Kamala Harris for president of the US. Confusing times in the US The impact of Girl Power. How women are making a difference Is gender balance still a thing Any lessons for the forthcoming 2025 Australian election ie Bring Out Your Women!   THE COCKTAIL CABINET – brought to us by Prince Wine Store and Myles Thomson. Search Prince Wine Store dot com dot au – This week: Myles discusses rum BSF brought to us by RED ENERGY. Owned by Snowy Hydro, a renewable energy leader.    BOOK: Caro has a book: Agatha Christie SCREEN: Corrie and Caro discuss Night Sleeper on Stan ….and other rail thrillers we love FOOD: Corrie has a Recipe: Prosciutto Wraps 24 baby green beans, topped and tailed Micro salad leaves or wild rocket, chopped 3 tablespoons toasted pine nuts 3 tablespoons grated parmigiano reggiano 1-2 tablespoons extra virgin olive oil Juice of one large lemon  12 thin slices prosciutto   DRESSING: 1 tablespoon balsamic vinegar 3 tablespoons extra virgin olive oil Pinch of dried chilli flakes 1 teaspoon chopped garlic 1-2 tablespoons chopped parsley Put dressing ingredients in a bowl and whisk. Place beans in a bowl, cover with boiling water , leave for 1 min then drain with cold water Combine beans, leaves nuts and parmesan, Drizzle with olive oil and lemon juice, season. Lay out prosciutto slices put a handful of bean mix on each slice then roll up. Drizzle with dressing just before serving.  This will make 12-24 roll-ups, depending on how much prosciutto you use for each parcel.                                DID YOU SEE THAT? Coverage of October 7 – Mark Leibler’s article in the Weekend Australian Josh Fydenberg’s article in the Weekend Australian George Brandis’s article in The Age                                 SIX QUICK QUESTIONS CORRIE TO CARO: How did you cope with your first weekend without footy CARO TO CORRIE: Which long-time Crush continues to be your long-time Crush CORRIE TO CARO:  What recent survey has nenewed your faith in Victoria CARO TO CORRIE: Whose newly-released memoir will you NOT be reading CORRIE TO CARO:   What is your most irritating kitchen chore CARO TO CORRIE: What most irritating kitchen chore did you tackle on the weekend  Thank you Red Energy, Prince Winestore and Cobram Olive Oil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    1h 17m
  7. 2 OCT

    Ep 330 - This Was One For The Good Guys

    ON TODAY’S SHOW: A Grand Final Review The Chris Fagan story Why Caro wouldn’t be surprised if Dean Cox is coaching Sydney in the next couple of years Bridget Jones Diary 4 Who did Caro liaise with at the AFL Grand Final function? Email us at feedback@dontshootpod.com.au Facebook.com/dontshootpod Instagram @dontshootpod Twitter @dontshootpod  Item 1:  Grand Final -       The Brisbane story -       The Chris Fagan story -       The Sydney collapse story   Item 2: Vale Dame Maggie Smith -       Maggie Smith’s acting career -       Her impact on literature: bringing characters to life on the Big Screen -       Some great Maggie quotes -       Some great Maggie roles   THE COCKTAIL CABINET – brought to us by Prince Wine Store and Myles Thomson. Search Prince Wine Store dot com dot au This week: The Young Guns Myles discusses next gen mixed dozen   BSF brought to us by RED ENERGY. Be empowered with the Red Energy mobile app BOOK: Caro has a book:  SCREEN: Corrie has a Screen: Bank of Dave on Netflix Thank you to Cobram Estate Olive Oil. Australia’s most awarded extra virgin olive oil. Grown, harvested and first cold pressed in Northern Victoria FOOD: Corrie has a Recipe: Avocado and Caviar dip 2-3 avocado White or Brown onion, chopped finely Twist of lemon juice Mix it all up with a squeeze of lemon juice and top with caviar DID YOU SEE THAT? Bridget Jones Diary 4 is coming!                           SIX QUICK QUESTIONS for RED ENERGY. Be empowered with the Red Energy mobile app CORRIE TO CARO: Who did you shamelessly ingratiate yourself with at this year’s Grand Final CARO TO CORRIE: Which just-released report shocked you CORRIE TO CARO:  What’s the new Spring plant you’ve fallen in love with CARO TO CORRIE: What Kris Kristofferson movie have you never seen and are now determined to see CORRIE TO CARO:  What’s the latest cost-cutting move implemented by your household CARO TO CORRIE: What traditional habit of a lifetime are you not prepared to break Thank you Red Energy, Prince Winestore and Cobram Olive Oil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    1h 7m
  8. 26 SEPT

    Ep 329 - AFL Grand Final week

    ON TODAY’S SHOW - It’s Grand Final week! - Why Port Adelaide are a watch for Caro - Changing roles in the media landscape - Meryl Streep’s powerful comments re: women’s rights in Afghanistan Email us at feedback@dontshootpod.com.au Facebook.com/dontshootpod Instagram @dontshootpod Twitter @dontshootpod  Grand Final, Here We Come - Caro’s Sydney Prelim Finals week - Grand Final week in Melb - Brownlow Medal night - The romance of the (ex-Melb teams) Swans v Lions match-up - Caro’s tips on who to watch on The Big Day THE COCKTAIL CABINET – brought to us by Prince Wine Store. Bringing Melburnians the greatest wine in the world. Prince Wine Store dot com dot au. This week: Which wine to drink while watching the Grand Final on the telly. BSF brought to us by RED ENERGY. BOOK: Corrie has a book: Kitchen Sentimental by Annie Smithers (non-fiction) SCREEN: Corrie and Caro discuss a Screen: Slow Horses (series 4) on Apple TV FOOD: Caro has a Recipe: Mediterranean baked fish with tomato and fennel Serves 4 2 large fennel bulbs, thinly sliced (500g) plus the fronds for garnish 5 garlic cloves, thinly sliced 3 tbsp olive oil 2 tsp cumin seeds, toasted and lightly crushed 2 tsp fennel seeds, toasted and lightly crushed 1 tbsp tomato paste 150ml ouzo 600g peeled and chopped plum tomatoes 1 tsp caster sugar 2 tbsp thyme leaves, picked, plus extra for garnish 2 strips of shaved lemon peel 600g fish cut into 4cm chunks 200g sheep’s milk feta, broken into 2cm chunks 60g unsalted butter 1 tsp chilli flakes 2 tsp lemon juice Salt & pepper Preheat the oven to 220ºC. In a large frying pan sauté the fennel and garlic in the olive oil on a medium heat for about 10 minutes or until softened. Add the cumin and fennel seeds and cook for another minute. Stir in the tomato paste and then add the raki or ouzo. Allow this to bubble away for a couple of minutes. Mix in the tomatoes, sugar, half of the thyme, the lemon skin, 1 teaspoon of salt and some black pepper and stir well. Simmer gently until the sauce thickens, 15-20 minutes, adding a little extra water if it goes much thicker than your typical pasta sauce. Taste and add salt and pepper accordingly. Remove from the heat and discard the lemon peel. Divide the hot sauce evenly between four individual casserole dishes or small pans. Alternatively, use one large dish. Season the sea bass pieces with salt and pepper and dot them inside, skin side down. Arrange over the squid followed by the prawns. Press the feta pieces around the fish so that they are also slightly submerged in the sauce. Finish with the remaining tablespoon of thyme leaves. Place on the top shelf in the oven 8-12 minutes, depending on the size of your dishes, or until the seafood is just cooked, the sauce bubbles nicely and the cheese turns golden. Just before the casseroles are done, melt the butter in a small frying pan until it starts to foam. Add the chilli and cook until the butter just begins to brown. Pour in the lemon juice, stir and remove from the heat. Spoon this over the hot casseroles as soon as they come out of the oven. Sprinkle with the fennel fronds and serve hot with bread on the side. DID YOU SEE THAT? Meryl Streep on how a female cat has more rights than women in Afghanistan SIX QUICK QUESTIONS for Red Energy. CORRIE TO CARO: What did you do at the MCG on Saturday night that you haven't done for more than a decade CARO TO CORRIE: Which forthcoming Summer movie are you desperate to see CORRIE TO CARO:  What new book will you take comfort in straight after the grand final CARO TO CORRIE: What Red Carpet fashion phenomenon have you recently observed CORRIE TO CARO:  While reading about Keith Urban and his forthcoming Aussie tour, what did you suddenly realise CARO TO CORRIE: What’s your Brownlow Red Carpet fashions 3,2, 1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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