Playmakers - The Game Industry Podcast

Game Design as a Way of Being, with Eric Zimmerman

In this episode:

Jordan interviews Eric Zimmerman, a veteran game designer, educator, and co-founder of Gamelab, the studio that created the iconic Diner Dash. Eric is currently a professor at the NYU Game Center and has written extensively on game design, including co-authoring the book “Rules of Play” (2004) with Katie Salen. Eric shares his unique perspective on game design as a way of life, emphasizing the importance of flexibility, the use of different frameworks, and the role of creativity in game creation.

Topics covered:

  • Eric’s journey from painter to game designer and co-founder of Gamelab
  • How to foster creativity in teams by designing a company culture that empowers authorship
  • The value of game design "frameworks" and the art of game design as a way of being in the world
  • The importance of experimentation, collaboration, and being open to different disciplines in design
  • Challenges faced by young designers and the role of experience in learning

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Timestamps:

[03:04] Eric’s background: From painter to game designer

[07:00] The origins of Gamelab and the early days of independent game development

[12:00] Teaching game design; Early days at NYU and working with Frank Lantz

[16:00] The value of frameworks in game design

[21:30] Creating a company culture at Gamelab that fosters ownership and creativity

[25:20] The importance of constraints in fostering creativity

[30:00] The role of experimentation and collaboration in game design

[34:00] Eric’s advice to young designers: Embracing mistakes and the learning process

[37:00] Eric’s thoughts on the future of game design 

Resources & media mentioned in this episode:

Learn more and Connect with Eric Zimmerman:

  • Eric Zimmerman
  • LinkedIn
  • Twitter
  • Check out: Rules of Play: Game Design Fundamentals (Mit Press): Salen Tekinbas, Katie, Zimmerman, Eric

Games & companies mentioned:

  • Diner Dash (Gamelab)
  • Gamelab
  • NYU Game Center
  • Gigantic Mechanic
  • Playmatics
  • AreaCode